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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 10:06

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:00

Or The IDF will start shooting Palestinians again

You're still here? Got anything to say about Hamas killing Palestinians?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/10/2025 10:03

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:00

Or The IDF will start shooting Palestinians again

I think it'll be both, the innocent citizens will be bullied and shot by both Hamas and the IDF.
If Hamas don't surrender the weapons, I suspect they won't.
American soldiers are the best option on foot, if possible.
Save as many citizens from death.

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:00

Or The IDF will start shooting Palestinians again

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Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 09:48

Thread title would have been more accurate if it said Feel like once the hostages are handed over and the IDF retreat, Hamas will start killing other Palestinians again.

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 09:41

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 14:22

That’s a difficult one. It’s going to take some honesty about Hamas.

Hamas are showing who they are, killing Palestinians who aren't behind them. They are going nowhere. They are shouting triumphantly. I mean seriously, do they not care that people have died for their stupid terrorist attack/jolly (as they filmed it as such). They just hide away and wait it out then kill many (just blame it all on Israel?). They won't get condemned then by pro pal 👍

CrossChecking · 14/10/2025 19:48

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 13:13

In July 2024, Likud party member Hanoch Milwidsky stated in the Knesset that it was "legitimate" to engage in acts of sexual violence, such as inserting a stick into a person's rectum, if that person was a Hamas militant
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Context of the comments

  • The incident occurred during a heated debate in the Knesset regarding alleged abuse of Palestinian prisoners at the Sde Teiman detention facility.
  • Milwidsky's comments were made in defense of soldiers accused of mistreating Palestinian detainees.
  • When asked by an Arab Knesset member if such an act was legitimate, Milwidsky reportedly shouted, "Yes! If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!".

To be fair I don’t give a shit what they do to Hamas members in jail. If putting a stick up their arse makes them give up information which could save lives, so be it.

I very much doubt that has ever happened though.

IIRC these claims of male sexual abuse came out after reports that male victims of Oct 7th had been raped and sexually tortured in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY on Oct 7th!

www.timesofisrael.com/male-october-7-survivor-recounts-rape-at-hands-of-hamas-terrorists/amp/

As is said regarding this particular conflict, every accusation is a confession.

Yeah seems like Israelis don't care either which is why they are still paying his wages. Like I said there is lots to suggest that child sex abuse in prisons would be covered up by Israelis. The general attitude towards sex crimes against Palestinians is appalling. Just like the general attitude towards starving Palestinians children and burning them alive in their homes, that's what radicalisation does to people unfortunately and the innocent, like the children abused in Israeli detention suffer because of it.

Shellyash · 14/10/2025 16:15

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 13:47

Are people talking about this? It’s what’s happening rn

Yes. Crazy bunch, absolutely crazy. Animals. Feel so sorry for the poor people of Palestine, what chance have they got.

OrangeAxolotyl · 14/10/2025 15:06

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 15:05

Some X accounts are more credible than others. I mean the BBC posts on X.

Oh sorry, I understand. No, you are right. I thought some unverified poster. As you were.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 14/10/2025 15:06

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 15:03

It's tricky as the BBC gets it wrong too, like forgetting to mention that a released Palestinian prisoner orchestrating the blowing up of several people. That kind of thing.
Honestly I'd be happy with an X link even rather than trust me bro.

On the other side, that haven't need that the 'trials' for those guys often involve evidence adduced under torture, and huge issues of unfairness. Undoubtedly many are guilty, but many won't be. They are not fair trials.

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 15:05

Some X accounts are more credible than others. I mean the BBC posts on X.

OrangeAxolotyl · 14/10/2025 15:04

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 15:03

It's tricky as the BBC gets it wrong too, like forgetting to mention that a released Palestinian prisoner orchestrating the blowing up of several people. That kind of thing.
Honestly I'd be happy with an X link even rather than trust me bro.

The BBC do sometimes get it wrong. True. However, I would trust them over some random on X.

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 15:03

OrangeAxolotyl · 14/10/2025 14:50

Very wise, so much fake news. I'm waiting for BBC Verify.
I'm certainly not going to trust X or TikTok!

It's tricky as the BBC gets it wrong too, like forgetting to mention that a released Palestinian prisoner orchestrating the blowing up of several people. That kind of thing.
Honestly I'd be happy with an X link even rather than trust me bro.

OrangeAxolotyl · 14/10/2025 14:50

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 12:48

I'm not going to take any claims seriously now unless credible evidence is included.

Very wise, so much fake news. I'm waiting for BBC Verify.
I'm certainly not going to trust X or TikTok!

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 14:41

inamarina · 14/10/2025 14:39

I just saw a post on X where someone claimed that some of the Palestinian prisoners being exiled after their release is all part of Israel’s plan to ethically cleanse Gaza.
Seems to be the latest narrative.
I’ve checked the numbers, looks like only around 174 people in total have been exiled - 154 from the group of 250 serving life sentences for terrorism-related offences and 20 additional detainees.

I’m sure it’s doing the citizens of Gaza a favour exiling these particular people.

inamarina · 14/10/2025 14:39

I just saw a post on X where someone claimed that some of the Palestinian prisoners being exiled after their release is all part of Israel’s plan to ethically cleanse Gaza.
Seems to be the latest narrative.
I’ve checked the numbers, looks like only around 174 people in total have been exiled - 154 from the group of 250 serving life sentences for terrorism-related offences and 20 additional detainees.

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 14:22

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 14:12

No, the usual accounts are still gibbering on about "Israel commiting genocide RIGHT NOW!" as if the ceasefire never took place, and are bodyswerving this topic hard.

That’s a difficult one. It’s going to take some honesty about Hamas.

SharonEllis · 14/10/2025 14:12

Well, I never!!

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 14:12

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 13:47

Are people talking about this? It’s what’s happening rn

No, the usual accounts are still gibbering on about "Israel commiting genocide RIGHT NOW!" as if the ceasefire never took place, and are bodyswerving this topic hard.

EasternStandard · 14/10/2025 13:47

Shellyash · 14/10/2025 12:05

IDF don't need to start bombing again, hamas have already begun terrorising and shooting their own again without trial. What a messed up country. What a messed up group.
Send our protestors to Palestine to wave the flags where it really matters.

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Are people talking about this? It’s what’s happening rn

TicklishMauveSquid · 14/10/2025 13:13

CrossChecking · 14/10/2025 11:23

It's actually worse than I thought. Hanoch Milwidsky from the Likud party said that it is legitimate "to insert a stick into a person's rectum". Smotrich was just angry that they had been filmed. And Ben Gvir argued that any action, even gang rape, is permissible if it is undertaken for the security of the state.

^these are who Israelis vote for. These are their politicians and law makers. In Ireland recently a man stood down from his presidential campaign because he owed 3 grand to former tenants. In Israel men like these feature over and over, year on year in Israeli politics. Men who think it's fine to gang rape and insert objects into people rectums. They are never ousted in shame, instead they are repeatly given positions of power. This is the culture that allows the abuse of children in detention to thrive, so it gets to the point where almost every child detained is abused in some manner.

Not a single person here stood up for these child victims when they were called liars and jew haters. If British people won't stand up for them what hope is there in a culture where people say its OK to force a stick into someones rectum and they get to keep their government job as a lawmaker!

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In July 2024, Likud party member Hanoch Milwidsky stated in the Knesset that it was "legitimate" to engage in acts of sexual violence, such as inserting a stick into a person's rectum, if that person was a Hamas militant
.
Context of the comments

  • The incident occurred during a heated debate in the Knesset regarding alleged abuse of Palestinian prisoners at the Sde Teiman detention facility.
  • Milwidsky's comments were made in defense of soldiers accused of mistreating Palestinian detainees.
  • When asked by an Arab Knesset member if such an act was legitimate, Milwidsky reportedly shouted, "Yes! If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!".

To be fair I don’t give a shit what they do to Hamas members in jail. If putting a stick up their arse makes them give up information which could save lives, so be it.

I very much doubt that has ever happened though.

IIRC these claims of male sexual abuse came out after reports that male victims of Oct 7th had been raped and sexually tortured in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY on Oct 7th!

www.timesofisrael.com/male-october-7-survivor-recounts-rape-at-hands-of-hamas-terrorists/amp/

As is said regarding this particular conflict, every accusation is a confession.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 13:06

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 12:48

I'm not going to take any claims seriously now unless credible evidence is included.

Actually I think that's best instead of getting drawn into debates about something someone said without giving any proper evidence.

SpaceRaccoon · 14/10/2025 12:48

I'm not going to take any claims seriously now unless credible evidence is included.

inamarina · 14/10/2025 12:48

kirinm · 14/10/2025 12:20

Only because it suits your narrative. People voted in the Labour Party.

Smotrich and Ben-Gvir belong to far-right parties that collectively secured 14 seats in the last election, out of 120.
Not the same as „voting Labour in“.

inamarina · 14/10/2025 12:39

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 12:08

Saying “people voted in a man” suggests Netanyahu to me as he the leader of the party people voted for.

Like if it was the UK and someone said “people voted in a man” the assumption would be they were talking about Starmer not one of his ministers.

This posters words are vague & unsubstantiated.

They are vague, I agree.
They also seem to be leaving out some of the information.
I‘ve used Grok to figure out what pp was referring to.
The statements made by Hanoch Milwidsky, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich,
as horrendous as they are, seem to be referring to a particular incident in 2024, where nine Israeli soldiers were accused of raping a Palestinian prisoner from Hamas's Nukhba unit (elite forces involved in the October 7th attack).
Ministers making reprehensible statements after an attack on their country is not quite the same as people knowingly voting someone in who before being elected said that rape of detainees was acceptable.

kirinm · 14/10/2025 12:20

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 12:08

Saying “people voted in a man” suggests Netanyahu to me as he the leader of the party people voted for.

Like if it was the UK and someone said “people voted in a man” the assumption would be they were talking about Starmer not one of his ministers.

This posters words are vague & unsubstantiated.

Only because it suits your narrative. People voted in the Labour Party.

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