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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:00

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

It has not. We can call it an armed conflict, as that is what is was.

But nice try deflecting from the current Hamas clusterfuck though.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 14:51

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

What do think will happen, will Hamas just hand over their weapons?

It’ll be hard for people to go in to rebuild if they are still in control.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 14:08

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:40

What do you think IDF expected to happen after the genocide?

Hamas attacked first, and genocide hasn’t been confirmed, so there’s that.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 13:52

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

Please note that you saying "the genocide" like it's a fact doesn't make it so.
Of course everyone could predict that Israel would retaliate, and given that Hamas is so embedded in civilian infrastructure, a blind man could have seen from space that there would be a lot of damage.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:40

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:36

What do you think Hamas expected to happen after launching the October 7th attack and promising to repeat it?

What do you think IDF expected to happen after the genocide?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:36

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

What do you think Hamas expected to happen after launching the October 7th attack and promising to repeat it?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:34

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:23

You’re deflecting.
Hamas inflicted the war on their own people by launching a horrendous terror attack on Israel, knowing full well what the response might be, and now Hamas randomly execute people in Gaza, and still you choose to only mention Netanyahu in your pp, and not Hamas.

Nobody surely could have predicted the genocide?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 13:23

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

You’re deflecting.
Hamas inflicted the war on their own people by launching a horrendous terror attack on Israel, knowing full well what the response might be, and now Hamas randomly execute people in Gaza, and still you choose to only mention Netanyahu in your pp, and not Hamas.

OnTheRoof · 15/10/2025 13:14

One of the many downsides of Hamas remaining armed and in partial control of Gaza is that it makes funding and resources for reconstruction less likely to be forthcoming.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

inamarina · 15/10/2025 12:49

So you think it’s mainly Netanyahu at the moment who’s preventing Gazans from finding their feet?
Not Hamas rounding up and publicly executing people?

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 12:56

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 12:40

Judging by the claps and thumbs up reactions that I’m getting under my posts I think there are a lot of people who agree with me

That’s scary.

But I always get those reactions to my posts too (which some might find equally scary) so I guess it’s normal?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 12:49

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 11:57

I think everyone is praying that Israel will stop and Palestine can be given resources and time to find its feet. It will be a miracle if Netanyahu stops though. Is the aide getting in again?

So you think it’s mainly Netanyahu at the moment who’s preventing Gazans from finding their feet?
Not Hamas rounding up and publicly executing people?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 12:47

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 11:57

I think everyone is praying that Israel will stop and Palestine can be given resources and time to find its feet. It will be a miracle if Netanyahu stops though. Is the aide getting in again?

Can you be more precise about who in Gaza will be receiving and managing these resources, given that it's currently being run by literal armed thugs who are holding street executions?

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 12:40

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 10:29

Your posts on this thread are so blatantly biased and shit-stirring that they’re having the opposite effect to the one you presumably hoped for!

Judging by the claps and thumbs up reactions that I’m getting under my posts I think there are a lot of people who agree with me

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TomeTome · 15/10/2025 11:57

I think everyone is praying that Israel will stop and Palestine can be given resources and time to find its feet. It will be a miracle if Netanyahu stops though. Is the aide getting in again?

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 11:16

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 11:06

I do actually agree, no one wants the awful task of getting rid of Hamas. I think there amongst other middle east countries was relief that the IDF tried since no one else wanted the task. Obviously, the scale of destruction shows they move around and hide then pop up, then hide then pop up...guerilla warfare is immensely difficult.

So if no one does it, they remain in power. Rinse and repeat. I'd want a buffer zone and a very big wall.

Yep but also some incredible camera work and monitoring because a wall won’t stop tunnels

OnTheRoof · 15/10/2025 11:12

Agreed. I wish for the sake of the Gazans that a pan Arab force to keep order after a disarmed Hamas was a possibility, but can see why none of them fancy it. It's also pretty obvious some Arab countries have been relieved and indeed actively (if quietly) supportive of some of the things Israel has done over the last couple of years.

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 11:06

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 10:57

It is and given Hamas propaganda they get world support instead. Idk why re your last question but I don’t blame anyone saying no we’re not doing it.

Hamas hiding in booby trapped tunnels ready to use whatever barbaric method.

I do actually agree, no one wants the awful task of getting rid of Hamas. I think there amongst other middle east countries was relief that the IDF tried since no one else wanted the task. Obviously, the scale of destruction shows they move around and hide then pop up, then hide then pop up...guerilla warfare is immensely difficult.

So if no one does it, they remain in power. Rinse and repeat. I'd want a buffer zone and a very big wall.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 10:57

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 10:35

Why not Arab Muslim nations?

Westerners do it = mass condemnation

Israel do it = rise in antisemitism and condemnation

Palestinians either cannot (any opposition to Hamas gets executed by Hamas) or some Palestinians don't want Hamas to go = more terrorist attacks on Israel and cycle continues

Arab Muslim nations = whos going to condemn them. Why WON'T they step up and help a fellow middle-east country? Why is it left to.orhers? Don't they have soldiers who could uphold peace.

Its easy to moan about whichever country or countries try.

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It is and given Hamas propaganda they get world support instead. Idk why re your last question but I don’t blame anyone saying no we’re not doing it.

Hamas hiding in booby trapped tunnels ready to use whatever barbaric method.

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 10:35

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 10:07

US soldiers would be effective but politically tricky. Domestically voters might not want it.

IDF could but perhaps Israel don’t want to get into the cycle of blame either.

Who wants to deal with Hamas?

Why not Arab Muslim nations?

Westerners do it = mass condemnation

Israel do it = rise in antisemitism and condemnation

Palestinians either cannot (any opposition to Hamas gets executed by Hamas) or some Palestinians don't want Hamas to go = more terrorist attacks on Israel and cycle continues

Arab Muslim nations = whos going to condemn them. Why WON'T they step up and help a fellow middle-east country? Why is it left to.orhers? Don't they have soldiers who could uphold peace.

Its easy to moan about whichever country or countries try.

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 10:29

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:25

Deflecting from what the IDF are doing? My thread title stands.

Your posts on this thread are so blatantly biased and shit-stirring that they’re having the opposite effect to the one you presumably hoped for!

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 10:28

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:25

Deflecting from what the IDF are doing? My thread title stands.

I think most people are interested in what’s happening in Gaza with Hamas, you’d have to be very committed to deflect away from that.

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 15/10/2025 10:25

Deflecting from what the IDF are doing? My thread title stands.

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EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 10:07

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/10/2025 10:03

I think it'll be both, the innocent citizens will be bullied and shot by both Hamas and the IDF.
If Hamas don't surrender the weapons, I suspect they won't.
American soldiers are the best option on foot, if possible.
Save as many citizens from death.

US soldiers would be effective but politically tricky. Domestically voters might not want it.

IDF could but perhaps Israel don’t want to get into the cycle of blame either.

Who wants to deal with Hamas?