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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 17:30

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:46

I don’t think people are pretending Hamas don’t exist, I think they want to make you see that Israel are not that nice or good.

I think Hamas have to go absolutely, do I think Palestine should be governed by the likes of Trump and Blair, hell no. I don’t think Israel should have any say in what happens to Palestine when Hamas are gone. Hamas need to be trialled and put away for life

If Hamas go and there is an actual decent human being(s) in charge Palestine and the Palestinians might have a chance, where you would find someone, who knows.

Israel are not blameless either, the war criminal Netanyahu needs to be held accountable for his war crimes and for the fraud charges, and the things they have done to Palestinians are unforgivable, just like the things Hamas have done. The Israeli government wants to eradicate Palestinians just as much as Hamas want to eradicate Jews. Both sides have been documented saying heinous things and IMO they are both sides of the same coin.

Israeli need to keep out of the west bank also, “settlers” should not be allowed to take peoples homes and terrorise Palestinians, they have no claims to anyone else's home, Palestinian or not.

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

Hamas doesn’t want a ceasefire because they want to take all of Israels land and continue to reign over innocent Palestinians with their terror.

Well said

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 17:25

inamarina · 15/10/2025 14:08

Hamas attacked first, and genocide hasn’t been confirmed, so there’s that.

Gaza’s been under blockade since 2007, bombed repeatedly, and starved of basic freedom for years before Oct 7th ever happened.

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 17:23

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

Agree. The success relies on Hamas co operating and not many can get them to do that.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 17:23

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

Re: the UN and their efficiency - didn’t the IDF discover a Hezbollah tunnel entrance in Lebanon last year, just 200 metres from a UNIFIL base? How could UNIFIL have missed it?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 17:16

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 16:43

Odd how everyone seems to forget that Gaza also has a border with Egypt.

Do they? I’m not sure who you think doesn’t realise this. It’s in the papers fairly regularly and we all have access to maps. Who do you think is controlling the border crossing?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 16:43

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

Odd how everyone seems to forget that Gaza also has a border with Egypt.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 16:42

I think oversight would be better from the UN myself but if they are to help bring war criminals and reparations to rights then perhaps someone else but Trump horrifies me really.

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 16:24

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 16:19

Also reported in the Times of Israel dated 14th October:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press ahead of yesterday’s summit that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-fm-15-palestinian-technocrats-approved-to-manage-postwar-gaza/

he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Oh god not Trump, I mean I presume he’ll be pumping in loads of money to Palestine, but I don’t believe he has the Palestinians best interests at heart, still think he is thinking about lining his pockets further.

Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza

Don’t trust Hamas at all, don’t believe they’ll be happy with that, unless there’s a nice incentive for them to do so from Trump

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 16:19

Also reported in the Times of Israel dated 14th October:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press ahead of yesterday’s summit that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-fm-15-palestinian-technocrats-approved-to-manage-postwar-gaza/

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 16:02

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Tbh do Hamas really have a choice now, they either disarm or the Americans go in. Sorry I doing have X so can’t read that

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 16:01

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Ok thanks for this. Maybe Hamas will step aside and give up weapons. Initially I thought no way but maybe they will.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Al Jazeera Breaking News (@AJENews) on X

BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role 🔴 LIVE updates: https://t.co/9QEgVS8Btc

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:53

AmIthatSpringy · 15/10/2025 15:51

Every Palestinian life is precious?

really?

every one?

including the terrorists?

Come on you’re being pedantic, you know what they meant

AmIthatSpringy · 15/10/2025 15:51

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 14:51

I think it has been accepted that it is genocide, but we could call it The Slaughter if that sits better????

i think Israel fail to understand that the rest of the world counts every Palestinian life as precious. We do not subscribe to the idea that Israel had to kill thousands of children and civilians, nor to the idea that blocking aide is ever acceptable.

Every Palestinian life is precious?

really?

every one?

including the terrorists?

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:46

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:25

I'm honestly getting a slightly surreal feeling like some posters are posting from a slightly different reality - maybe a pre-ceasefire one? One where Hamas doesn't exist?
Is this thread a merged multiverse?

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I don’t think people are pretending Hamas don’t exist, I think they want to make you see that Israel are not that nice or good.

I think Hamas have to go absolutely, do I think Palestine should be governed by the likes of Trump and Blair, hell no. I don’t think Israel should have any say in what happens to Palestine when Hamas are gone. Hamas need to be trialled and put away for life

If Hamas go and there is an actual decent human being(s) in charge Palestine and the Palestinians might have a chance, where you would find someone, who knows.

Israel are not blameless either, the war criminal Netanyahu needs to be held accountable for his war crimes and for the fraud charges, and the things they have done to Palestinians are unforgivable, just like the things Hamas have done. The Israeli government wants to eradicate Palestinians just as much as Hamas want to eradicate Jews. Both sides have been documented saying heinous things and IMO they are both sides of the same coin.

Israeli need to keep out of the west bank also, “settlers” should not be allowed to take peoples homes and terrorise Palestinians, they have no claims to anyone else's home, Palestinian or not.

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

Hamas doesn’t want a ceasefire because they want to take all of Israels land and continue to reign over innocent Palestinians with their terror.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:25

I'm honestly getting a slightly surreal feeling like some posters are posting from a slightly different reality - maybe a pre-ceasefire one? One where Hamas doesn't exist?
Is this thread a merged multiverse?

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 15:23

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:18

Hard changes have been made before in many places@EasternStandard Transparency about what has actually been happening and has happened, food and medicine and absolute commitment to stopping IDF/Israeli abuse of power, will calm things.

Ik but I’m not sure what you mean here. Are you expecting hard changes to mean Hamas don’t have power and weapons or still do?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:18

Hard changes have been made before in many places@EasternStandard Transparency about what has actually been happening and has happened, food and medicine and absolute commitment to stopping IDF/Israeli abuse of power, will calm things.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:15

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

And how will this be done in Gaza in it's current state, do you have any specific thoughts on navigating the fact that it's controlled by the current version of Hamas in the form of armed gangs driving around in pickups shooting people?

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:14

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:05

@SpaceRaccoon an armed conflict implies both sides bore arms against each other, I don’t think it’s how you describe the slaughter of innocent children numbering tens of thousands.

Yes. Israel wasn't fighting itself, you know. They did lose almost a thousand soldiers in Gaza, I doubt they were killed by "innocent children".

Literally it's like people pretend Hamas doesn't exist, it's bizarre.
Who in your opinion is busy executing their opponents in the street, currently? More innocent children?

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 15:09

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

Yes but how with Hamas holding weapons and power?

Or do you mean with that still in place

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:05

@SpaceRaccoon an armed conflict implies both sides bore arms against each other, I don’t think it’s how you describe the slaughter of innocent children numbering tens of thousands.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 15:03

Palestine is a state now, hopefully they will be allowed to manage their own recovery. They could manage that with support from the international community. Those who have committed atrocities should be tried and reparations made for the destruction. The UN could take an active role in that process.

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