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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 14:42

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Its antisemitusm she is criticising. Criticising racism is a value we should all align with.

caringcarer · 10/10/2025 14:41

I think it more likely Hamas will break ceasefire or refuse to hand over hostages and bodies they kidnapped. They will come up with some excuse they don't remember where bodies are.

SharonEllis · 10/10/2025 14:40

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What a grotesque post. You know nothing about this posters background other than that she is Jewish. That seems to becenough for a relentless pike on ftom several posters. What a shameful thread.

Londonmummy66 · 10/10/2025 14:37

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inamarina · 10/10/2025 14:36

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:22

No. Children don’t get shot in the head as standard in war.

Medics don’t get targeted and executed with their ambulance being buried as standard.

People being murdered when trying to get water or food isn’t standard either.

Saying the extent of civilian suffering is just the way things go in a war and minimising it won’t suddenly make it okay.

What is the standard in war? Of course war crimes happen outside the Israel-Gaza conflict.
Do you think Putin for instance cares much about “standards”?
If these children were indeed shot by Israeli soldiers then that is a crime committed by these individual soldiers.

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:35

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2025 14:31

You have no memory of the war in former Yugoslavia? You haven't heard reports from Ukraine? I can assure you that these things do happen in war.

Does the name Slobodan Milosevic ring any bells?

So much whataboutrey. I would not find my son or daughter going to fight for a government that carries out these types of atrocities regardless of who they are at war with.

Knowingly being proud of your child for partaking in those activities is incomprehensible to me.

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2025 14:35

CrossChecking · 10/10/2025 14:24

Does Israel have Egyptians and Jordanians living under occupation and apartheid? It's apples and oranges isn't it?

You can't have 10% of your country living in illegally occupied land and then say why are they constantly attacking us, most of these attacks happen in Palestine and could quickly be resolved if Israelis would just move back to Israel. We hear about these terrorist attacks on Israelis but it is never actually made clear that the vast majority of these attacks don't actually happen in Israel and could be prevented by Israelis not living illegally on someone else's land.

I'm not saying attacking civillians is ok, it's not OK but neither is 10% of Israelis participating in apartheid and illegal occupation on a daily basis, that is violence too.

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Are you saying there are no missiles coming into Israel from Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen....

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2025 14:31

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:22

No. Children don’t get shot in the head as standard in war.

Medics don’t get targeted and executed with their ambulance being buried as standard.

People being murdered when trying to get water or food isn’t standard either.

Saying the extent of civilian suffering is just the way things go in a war and minimising it won’t suddenly make it okay.

You have no memory of the war in former Yugoslavia? You haven't heard reports from Ukraine? I can assure you that these things do happen in war.

Does the name Slobodan Milosevic ring any bells?

CrossChecking · 10/10/2025 14:24

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2025 14:16

My impression is that ceasefire is a relative term here, for lucky people whose country isn't being attacked on a daily basis from various sides it means no bombs, for Israelis it seems to mean fewer bombs, hence the iron dome and bomb shelters and the fact that the Nova festival kids and kibbutzniks didn't immediately realise the danger they were in.

Does Israel generally leave Jordan and Egypt alone and if so could it be due to them not constantly attacking.

Does Israel have Egyptians and Jordanians living under occupation and apartheid? It's apples and oranges isn't it?

You can't have 10% of your country living in illegally occupied land and then say why are they constantly attacking us, most of these attacks happen in Palestine and could quickly be resolved if Israelis would just move back to Israel. We hear about these terrorist attacks on Israelis but it is never actually made clear that the vast majority of these attacks don't actually happen in Israel and could be prevented by Israelis not living illegally on someone else's land.

I'm not saying attacking civillians is ok, it's not OK but neither is 10% of Israelis participating in apartheid and illegal occupation on a daily basis, that is violence too.

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:22

inamarina · 10/10/2025 14:16

Is it their military aim to go and murder thousands of children, or are they fighting a prescribed terrorist organisation embedded amongst civilians? As pp said, sadly war crimes happen in any war.

No. Children don’t get shot in the head as standard in war.

Medics don’t get targeted and executed with their ambulance being buried as standard.

People being murdered when trying to get water or food isn’t standard either.

Saying the extent of civilian suffering is just the way things go in a war and minimising it won’t suddenly make it okay.

inamarina · 10/10/2025 14:16

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:10

There’s nothing honourable about going to fight with a military who are murdering children in their thousands.

That anyone thinks that’s honourable is disturbing. But then there are so many people who don’t actually care about the children or men and women being killed or starved in their thousands as these threads often show.

Is it their military aim to go and murder thousands of children, or are they fighting a prescribed terrorist organisation embedded amongst civilians? As pp said, sadly war crimes happen in any war.

quantumbutterfly · 10/10/2025 14:16

CrossChecking · 10/10/2025 13:51

And does that sound like the 'ceasefire' we have repeatedly been told existed or does it sound like this 'ceasefire' was another figment of pro Israel imagination because I haven't seen a single pro Palestinian claim that there was a ceasefire in place.

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My impression is that ceasefire is a relative term here, for lucky people whose country isn't being attacked on a daily basis from various sides it means no bombs, for Israelis it seems to mean fewer bombs, hence the iron dome and bomb shelters and the fact that the Nova festival kids and kibbutzniks didn't immediately realise the danger they were in.

Does Israel generally leave Jordan and Egypt alone and if so could it be due to them not constantly attacking.

inamarina · 10/10/2025 14:12

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Where is the censorship?
A poster made a remark on a different thread, obviously not breaking any guidelines, and it’s being thrown back at her. There is no need for that.

kirinm · 10/10/2025 14:10

There’s nothing honourable about going to fight with a military who are murdering children in their thousands.

That anyone thinks that’s honourable is disturbing. But then there are so many people who don’t actually care about the children or men and women being killed or starved in their thousands as these threads often show.

justanotherpassword · 10/10/2025 14:09

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justanotherpassword · 10/10/2025 14:05

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:29

BS.

This was on a thread about the rising atmosphere of antisemitism. The poster has frequently posted about how this has affected her and her children. She said the Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel to enlist. Last time I checked it was something honorable to fight for your country. The post made next was this-

"Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life."

Thats a direct quote of what this poster said about a young man she doesn't know, who hasnt commited any crime, other than considering fighting for his country.

BS. I have the post screenshot. That isn’t what she said.

CrossChecking · 10/10/2025 13:51

Twiglets1 · 10/10/2025 12:48

Oh yes … after Palestinian militants at the border fence launched incendiary balloons into Israel & threw an explosive at soldiers.

The 3 days of bombings in retaliation should have been a warning that Israel wouldn’t tolerate such behaviour.

And does that sound like the 'ceasefire' we have repeatedly been told existed or does it sound like this 'ceasefire' was another figment of pro Israel imagination because I haven't seen a single pro Palestinian claim that there was a ceasefire in place.

GreatWhiteJar · 10/10/2025 13:49

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 10/10/2025 13:23

Fair enough. A more accurate statement might be that he was considering joining an army that's under investigations for war crimes and genocide.

I'm not sure it sounds that much better.

Every army commits war crimes.

TigTails · 10/10/2025 13:46

This is exactly what will happen. The hostages were an excuse, but they’ll soon find another one.

AhWeNoss · 10/10/2025 13:43

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:37

Im guessing if his Dad is a Rabbi he might have some connection to Israel ffs

That doesn’t mean he is Israeli and if he isn’t, then Israel is not his country for him to serve in.

You go on about him fighting for his country but you don’t know that.

inamarina · 10/10/2025 13:43

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:29

BS.

This was on a thread about the rising atmosphere of antisemitism. The poster has frequently posted about how this has affected her and her children. She said the Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel to enlist. Last time I checked it was something honorable to fight for your country. The post made next was this-

"Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life."

Thats a direct quote of what this poster said about a young man she doesn't know, who hasnt commited any crime, other than considering fighting for his country.

Thank you for providing the context, I vaguely remember that exchange.
Once again, everything connected to Israel seems to be measured by completely different standards.
Comparing enlisting in the IDF to joining the Hamas (as pp did) is such an example.
I mean, Hamas literally call for the destruction of Israel in their founding charter, that is the kind of enemy IDF are facing, yet some people seem absolutely determined to ignore that.

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:37

AhWeNoss · 10/10/2025 13:35

You have no idea if it’s his country or not.

Im guessing if his Dad is a Rabbi he might have some connection to Israel ffs

Gaimbin · 10/10/2025 13:35

AhWeNoss · 10/10/2025 13:10

I mean it’s hardly tracking to remember memorable statements by posters…

Did you find @PurpleChrayn 's statements about the murders of her friends' children on October 7th or the antisemitic abuse she and her family have been repeatedly subjected to in the UK to be equally memorable?

There was just no need to join in with a snide, personal little dig which was unnecessary and had a disturbing undertone. If we want everyone to do better, maybe we can start with ourselves?

AhWeNoss · 10/10/2025 13:35

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:29

BS.

This was on a thread about the rising atmosphere of antisemitism. The poster has frequently posted about how this has affected her and her children. She said the Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel to enlist. Last time I checked it was something honorable to fight for your country. The post made next was this-

"Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life."

Thats a direct quote of what this poster said about a young man she doesn't know, who hasnt commited any crime, other than considering fighting for his country.

You have no idea if it’s his country or not.

dairydebris · 10/10/2025 13:29

Twiglets1 · 10/10/2025 13:20

Well if the comment wasn’t deleted it didn’t break site rules.

The IDF aren’t a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas are.

BS.

This was on a thread about the rising atmosphere of antisemitism. The poster has frequently posted about how this has affected her and her children. She said the Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel to enlist. Last time I checked it was something honorable to fight for your country. The post made next was this-

"Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life."

Thats a direct quote of what this poster said about a young man she doesn't know, who hasnt commited any crime, other than considering fighting for his country.

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