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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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Twiglets1 · 11/10/2025 12:17

EsmaCannonball · 11/10/2025 11:51

I wonder how many of the executions Hamas is carrying out right now will be blamed on the IDF? I will never understand how so many in the west would welcome living under that kind of regime.

Doubt even the most vocal pro Pals on MN would want to be living under that oppressive regime themselves.

Not for them, not for their precious children.

But it was apparently ok for Gazans to continue to live under Hamas since there was no mass call or protests to Get Hamas Out.

ClockworkGoose · 11/10/2025 12:11

dairydebris · 11/10/2025 11:24

Because some of those men are convicted terrorists and murderers?
Would you like them released?

Although many are held without trial It’s fair to say an overwhelming number of prisoners will have been found to have done something. Do we just release no prisoners during a prisoner release deal then?

TomeTome · 11/10/2025 12:04

Has any country beyond Trumpland bought into the Israeli narrative? I wonder what normal Israelis think of having that guy as their only ally?

EsmaCannonball · 11/10/2025 11:51

I wonder how many of the executions Hamas is carrying out right now will be blamed on the IDF? I will never understand how so many in the west would welcome living under that kind of regime.

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 11:41

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:35

"I am personally proud of the 'ruins' of Gaza, and that 80 years from now, they will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did"

If this is the accurate translation it doesn't make her words any better. And this is coming from the 'minister of social equality' coming across as quite psychopathic.

I think a Jew proudly using the word holocaust for something that they had done to another group of people would be incredibly, unspeakably abhorrent.

Which is why the rush to fact check that particular word.

The speech is awful, but pretending that was the word used is pretty grim.

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:40

If you don't want to read the full article here is a snippet:

Infidels MC was set up by US military veterans of the Iraq war in 2006 and members see themselves as modern Crusaders, using the Crusader cross as their symbol - a reference to the medieval Christians who fought Muslims for control of Jerusalem.
The gang is currently hosting anti-Muslim hate speech on its Facebook page and has previously held a pig roast "in defiance of" the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
"Putting the Infidels biker club in charge of delivering humanitarian aid in Gaza is like putting the KKK in charge of delivering humanitarian aid in Sudan. It makes no sense whatsoever," said Edward Ahmed Mitchell, deputy director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a leading Muslim civil rights organisation in the US.
"It's bound to lead to violence, and that's exactly what we've seen happen in Gaza."

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:37

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:35

"I am personally proud of the 'ruins' of Gaza, and that 80 years from now, they will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did"

If this is the accurate translation it doesn't make her words any better. And this is coming from the 'minister of social equality' coming across as quite psychopathic.

Yes it’s hardly any better.

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:37

dairydebris · 11/10/2025 11:33

I agree with this.

The images of children crying for food at aid sites were awful. I dont doubt them. I find in uncomfortable to think of childten starving while some were well fed.
The "food distribution system' in Gaza under Hamas clearly left a lot to be desired. There was clearly food there.

For a long time now it has been under the GHF. The company who employed thugs from the US who openly stated how they hated all Muslims and much worst. The GHF that were operating death sites where Palestinians coming for aid were routinely gunned down.

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:35

"I am personally proud of the 'ruins' of Gaza, and that 80 years from now, they will tell their grandchildren what the Jews did"

If this is the accurate translation it doesn't make her words any better. And this is coming from the 'minister of social equality' coming across as quite psychopathic.

dairydebris · 11/10/2025 11:33

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 10:20

I don't think it's bad to question why the videos coming out of Gaza celebrating the ceasefire contain so many healthy, well-fed looking people when we have been previously repeatedly told that there is no food.

We've also been told that there was food but it was being hoarded by Hamas. Perhaps the people in the videos were able to get the food but elsewhere there are people who were not able to. The living conditions in Gaza are undeniably terrible.

I've recently seen videos/reports on twitter that Hamas are now going through Gaza and executing their opponents (Palestinian, not Israeli). We know from the 2015 Amnesty International report that Hamas torture and kill Palestinians, so restricting access to food is certainly not beyond them. https://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/27/world/hamas-amnesty-international-report/index.html

I agree with this.

The images of children crying for food at aid sites were awful. I dont doubt them. I find in uncomfortable to think of childten starving while some were well fed.
The "food distribution system' in Gaza under Hamas clearly left a lot to be desired. There was clearly food there.

SpaceRaccoon · 11/10/2025 11:33

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:32

Because you just can’t stand that the Israeli government are calling it a holocaust and saying they’re proud of it.

No, because it's been mistranslated.

quantumbutterfly · 11/10/2025 11:32

SpaceRaccoon · 11/10/2025 11:24

That seems to happen a lot...

Jehud means Israel not Jews.
Jihad means struggle.
Zionist entity means...

It's almost as if information is being manipulated ...just as well there are no bad actors on Mumsnet.

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 11:32

This is in the comments.

Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again
ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:32

SpaceRaccoon · 11/10/2025 11:31

Yes, we're saying it's been mistranslated.

Because you just can’t stand that the Israeli government are calling it a holocaust and saying they’re proud of it.

SpaceRaccoon · 11/10/2025 11:31

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:28

The video is right there.

Yes, we're saying it's been mistranslated.

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 11:30

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:28

The video is right there.

It's a video of someone speaking a language I don't speak so telling me the video is saying 'holocaust' when others are saying that it does not say holocaust, should I believe the translation put up by someone called "@Ireallyhateyou"?

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:28

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 11:26

Except if you look in the comment immediately underneath the post it says that she did not use the word holocaust.

The video is right there.

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 11:26

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:21

The Israeli minister of social equality has said herself it is a “holocaust”. She is proud of it.

https://x.com/partisan_12/status/1976513019992580180?s=46

Except if you look in the comment immediately underneath the post it says that she did not use the word holocaust.

SomeoneSomewheree · 11/10/2025 11:25

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:21

The Israeli minister of social equality has said herself it is a “holocaust”. She is proud of it.

https://x.com/partisan_12/status/1976513019992580180?s=46

Evil woman.

dairydebris · 11/10/2025 11:24

ClockworkGoose · 11/10/2025 08:36

Why am I not surprised Israel are point blank refusing to include several Palestinian prisoners who were on the agreed list for release?

Because some of those men are convicted terrorists and murderers?
Would you like them released?

ThatLadyLady · 11/10/2025 11:21

SpaceRaccoon · 11/10/2025 10:01

I have seen no evidence of mass starvation in Gaza.

The Israeli minister of social equality has said herself it is a “holocaust”. She is proud of it.

https://x.com/partisan_12/status/1976513019992580180?s=46