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Israel’s generals and soldiers are aware they are killing large numbers of children.

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Everexpanding · 08/10/2025 08:52

Children account for nearly one-third of all the war dead whose bodies have been collected and identified before burial.

The list of named victims maintained by health authorities in Gaza is recognised as authoritative by the international community, the UN and Israel’s military, although Israeli politicians frequently try to dismiss it.

But the strict rules that ensure its credibility also mean it cannot capture the full scale of tragedy inflicted on Gaza’s children and their families.
Missing from the toll are the thousands of victims still buried under the rubble of destroyed buildings as well as the war’s many indirect victims. Israel’s blockade has created deadly shortages of food, medicine, clean water and fuel.

Starvation has killed at least 150 children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/oct/08/young-lives-cut-short-on-an-unimaginable-scale-the-18457-children-on-gazas-list-of-war-dead

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stomachamelon · 12/10/2025 16:25

Reading back I am profoundly shocked at some of the posts ‘ they chose to be part of this conflict’

wow.

Everexpanding · 12/10/2025 16:24

But perhaps this racism is also/ has been demonstrated in the Israeli states attitude to Palestinians perhaps Israeli society needs to examine this side of itself , I posted in response to people dismissing any idea that Israel has acted like a settler colonialist state

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stomachamelon · 12/10/2025 16:22

@SharonEllisI am wondering if this is our midwife friend? In disguise (or not) fascination with the ‘white’ element of Jewry. Probably never been to Israel.

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 16:18

Prejudice exists everywhere. Israel is an extraordinarily diverse society with an ebb and flow of population and high levels of tension as a result of conflict. Are there going to be tensions? Outright racism? Of course. Who on earth would expect otherwise. Perhaps only those who wish to hold Israel to exceptionally high standards.

andgoodnessknows · 12/10/2025 16:07

Ah right. I wonder why Israel airlifted 150,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel when they’re all such rabid white supremacists? So weird. Further to the article you yourself have posted - most Israelis aren’t white and the vast majority moved to Israel to flee persecution.

Unfortunately some people are disgusting racists, as we see in the people in this article, but that is true in every country. I’m not sure how the appalling behaviour of some people means the entire nation are racist white supremacists. 3/10 for effort.

quantumbutterfly · 12/10/2025 16:06

Everexpanding · 12/10/2025 15:56

Why do you think the state needs to invest,

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64919768.amp

And there's a will to do so it seems....you're unhappy with that?

Everexpanding · 12/10/2025 16:04

2023 report
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/g24/052/97/pdf/g2405297.pdf

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SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 15:29

The majority of Israelis are Mizrahi. Jews are an ethnicity. The desperate attempt to pretend Jews are white in order to justify the racist settler colonial narrative.

andgoodnessknows · 12/10/2025 15:26

willowtree99 · 12/10/2025 15:05

Yes, there are arab Israelis, but they are in the minority and politically marginalized.They cling to the zionist project over fear of what may happen if the dual nationals left.

This is a key consideration in the peace project, reintegrating back into Palestinian society and some form of truth and reconciliation process.

No, no - no just Arab Israelis, I said brown Jews. There are a massive proportion of brown Israeli Jews. .They’re the c. 800,000 displaced Jews from the Middle East and North Africa during the 1940s. All of those countries now no longer have any substantial diaspora Jewish communities at all.

Jewish Israelis are not uniformly white, however desperate you might be to believe it.

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 15:25

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Oh dear. No 'technically' antisemitism as a term was coined precisely to refer to prejudice against Jewish people so don't try to play the antiermites favourite semantic game.

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 15:21

HellsBalls · 12/10/2025 15:09

You should have seen the post that was removed.
Unhinged.
Another one that is not happy with the ceasefire.

Oh I did see it.

willowtree99 · 12/10/2025 15:14

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HellsBalls · 12/10/2025 15:09

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 15:05

Exactly. And the idea that Israelis have been 'radicalized' by the antisemitism they have experienced. Dusgusting post.

You should have seen the post that was removed.
Unhinged.
Another one that is not happy with the ceasefire.

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 15:05

andgoodnessknows · 12/10/2025 14:54

Superiority over brown people? You’re aware, of course, that Mizrahi Jews are brown? They’re the Jews kicked out of all of the Middle Eastern countries - Iraq, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan in the 1940s. A huge amount of the Israeli population is brown, but don't let that get in the way of your own racism. The idea that Israel is just a bunch of white colonisers who rocked up after the Holocaust, as some like to suggest, is absolutely false. There has been a Jewish presence in Israel for millennia. The entire religion is centred around it. Some have always been there, some have returned from the diaspora of persecuted jews, but they are the indigenous people of the land and most of them are brown, including 2 million Arab Israelis.

Exactly. And the idea that Israelis have been 'radicalized' by the antisemitism they have experienced. Dusgusting post.

willowtree99 · 12/10/2025 15:05

Yes, there are arab Israelis, but they are in the minority and politically marginalized.They cling to the zionist project over fear of what may happen if the dual nationals left.

This is a key consideration in the peace project, reintegrating back into Palestinian society and some form of truth and reconciliation process.

SharonEllis · 12/10/2025 14:55

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What on earth are you talking about? Israelis have lived there forever. There are more than 6 million Palestinians in the diaspora, only marginally smaller than the Jewish diaspora so they too have 'families, friends and interests in other places'. Those Jews that have 'chosen' to return to Israel have in large part done so because of persecution and are Israelis.

andgoodnessknows · 12/10/2025 14:54

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Superiority over brown people? You’re aware, of course, that Mizrahi Jews are brown? They’re the Jews kicked out of all of the Middle Eastern countries - Iraq, Syria, Iran, Afghanistan in the 1940s. A huge amount of the Israeli population is brown, but don't let that get in the way of your own racism. The idea that Israel is just a bunch of white colonisers who rocked up after the Holocaust, as some like to suggest, is absolutely false. There has been a Jewish presence in Israel for millennia. The entire religion is centred around it. Some have always been there, some have returned from the diaspora of persecuted jews, but they are the indigenous people of the land and most of them are brown, including 2 million Arab Israelis.

HellsBalls · 12/10/2025 14:53

@willowtree99 “What do they need to be deradicalised from?”

Radical Islam for a start, and Jihad for another.
You seem to think war is the answer.
Have you learnt nothing from the last 2 pointless years?

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HellsBalls · 12/10/2025 14:26

@willowtree99 ”Deradicalisation is a priority for the coming years.”

I presume you are talking about the Palestinians?

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