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The Flotilla and Greta - a PR disaster

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BewaretheIckabog · 07/10/2025 23:09

To think the flotilla and unsubstantiated reports of Greta’s mistreatment have caused a massive detriment to the pro-Palestinian cause.

So many people who have said little on this issue are now appalled that the idea the flotilla members are claiming they have been kidnapped and tortured by the Israelis.

Comments I’ve heard are, if you want to talk about torture and kidnap, watch the bodycom footage from 7 October. Google Shani Louk and Evyatar David.

Even the idea that her fellow protestors were horrified that the I D F pulled ‘little Greta’s hair’ (she’s a full grown woman) don’t sit well.

The accusations from the flotilla are the Israelis are indiscriminate war criminals and slaughterers - why would hair-pulling be noteworthy - after all they are allegedly intent on genocide.

When will useful idiots realise stupid PR stunts are so far from what this situation needs and realise they do more harm than good?

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CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:03

BewaretheIckabog · 07/10/2025 23:54

@CrossChecking I’ve just watched the film about 7 October where I have seen real horrific barbarity.

War is horrific, loss is appalling but if you want to see barbarity watch the Hamas bodycam footage from 7 October.

I've seen enough barbarity to last me a lifetime over the past two years. Never in my life did I think I would see rows of dead little children day after day after day on my phone. So much loss of such young precious lives, 1000s and 1000s of them, it really has changed me as a person forever. I'm not seeking out any more barbarity, I've had my quota for a lifetime.

BewaretheIckabog · 07/10/2025 23:54

@CrossChecking I’ve just watched the film about 7 October where I have seen real horrific barbarity.

War is horrific, loss is appalling but if you want to see barbarity watch the Hamas bodycam footage from 7 October.

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Usou · 07/10/2025 23:31

The whole thing is pathetic.

Why was there nothing similar against Assad in Syria, IS, Boko Haram, or the current manifestation of the Rwandan genocide in eastern Congo? Why does the treatment of women in Iran and Afghanistan get a free pass?

One reason is because they knew the Israelis would treat them humanely, the others less so.

noblegiraffe · 07/10/2025 23:29

Greta appears to have posted a picture of the poor Israeli hostage Evyatar David who was starved and forced to dig his own grave as evidence of Israeli brutality of Palestinian prisoners rather than of Hamas, who are holding him hostage.

I know she refused to watch the October 7th footage last time Israel 'abducted' her but it seems like she hasn't actually engaged with any news that's critical of Hamas if she didn't recognise that picture as an Israeli hostage?

CrossChecking · 07/10/2025 23:23

No matter what someone who is pro Palestinian does they will receive abuse for it. It's par for the course. It's water off a ducks back for most now. The important thing is that the message of Israels barbarity has been spread far and wide. For the next few decades at least when people think of Israel, starving children, children without limbs, tiny little shrouds and hateful genocidal politicians will be the first thing so many people think of. The videos of what they have done to so many children are burnt into people's minds. No amount of name calling can change that, people know what they have seen and heard with their own eyes and ears.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 07/10/2025 23:19

That's not the general feeling among my friends, family and acquaintances.

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