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Thoughts to the Jewish community in the UK

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Ihatetomatoes · 02/10/2025 19:38

There is a massive rise in anti semitism in the UK and other countries. Jewish people here have nothing to do with the conflict in Gaza, nothing at all.

The rise in anti semitism is disgusting.

Sending thoughts to the victims, their family and friends. No one should feel terrorised in the UK. People should feel safe here.

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quantumbutterfly · 03/10/2025 11:37

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 09:59

Well I hope this is ok to post. There is a video at the start where one of the victim's neighbour gives a very moving tribute. Adrian Daulby was a kind and caring man who would buy books and toys for the children on his street. The kind of neighbour that is seldom found in this day and age. I can't imagine what his family and friends must be going through right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

The world is a poorer place without him.

isitmyturn · 03/10/2025 11:26

FattyMcFattyArse · 02/10/2025 22:38

I agree with your points, but what I'm saying is that Netanyahu has whipped up hatred or at least resentment over the past 2 years. I think he has done Jewish people around the world a huge disservice by putting them in danger through his actions. People will want to retaliate. They shouldn't do so of course, but Israel has fostered bad feeling through its persecution of the Gazans and destruction of their homes and families.

If my government committed atrocities against a country or a people, then I would feel afraid of repercussions against me from those affected because of my nationality or affiliation. It's wrong that it happens, but it seems causative to me.

Russia is a Christian country. Do Christians in the UK or around the world get targeted or blamed for the Putin and Russia's actions in Ukraine?
No because it's all just an excuse for anti semitism.
Anti semitism was, for a while after WWII, socially unacceptable but in recent years both the far right and more so the far left have embraced it.

NoFutureHere · 03/10/2025 11:24

Someone mentioned donating to CST and I think that’s a great idea. If you’re not in a position to do that then you can still speak out.

Not one of my friends has messaged me after yesterday. Not to ask if we are okay or acknowledge what happened. Many of them continue to post stories about Gaza on their social media but not one of them as acknowledged this.

Reach out to Jews you know who will be frightened. Post a story about how you are thinking of those affected by this and don’t justify it or caveat it or use it to compare what’s happening Gaza. Don’t speculate on the victims thoughts about Israel. Just send out one kind and compassionate thought for the people murdered right here yesterday just for being Jewish.

Write to your MP about the growing antisemitism problem. The Jewish community it too small to make anyone listen. If you’re the silent majority then please don’t be silent now. Don’t let them shrug us off or dismiss what’s happened. It’s so easy to think you won’t bother because it won’t make a difference but your voices show what voters care about. Please show you care about Jews. Make this impossible to ignore.

You don’t have to ONLY care about Jews. But yesterday, there was a terrorist attack killing and injuring Jews just for who they are. You don’t have to stop caring about other causes but maybe just for one measly letter, one social media story, one text message, we can let it be about Jews.

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 11:21

GinaDav · 03/10/2025 11:05

Hmmmm, Shabana Mahmood. The one pictured waving Free Palestine flags, who chose not to vote on Palestine Action being proscribed as a terrorist organisation and demonstrated at her local Sainsbury’s in protest at them selling products sourced from Isreal? That Shabana Mahmood?

Ok, ok … but I still agree with her comments after the attack.

The trouble with politicians is you can never tell if they’re being genuine or just reading someone else’s words.

But I agree with the words anyway.

quantumbutterfly · 03/10/2025 11:15

JazzyBBBG · 03/10/2025 11:05

Imagine this was the other way around and someone attacked a mosque. The outcry and civil unrest would be beyond belief (and yes I know this has happened before - I'm talking in the current climate).

I don't think the reaction from government has been strong enough. I appreciate there are facts unknown still but it needs to be entirely demonstrable that this will not be tolerated.

There will be more to come on this one. Just because he wasn't known to Prevent doesn't mean he won't have a criminal record or other issues. His name was Jihad FFS. You can't name your child Hitler but Jihad is acceptable.

I heard that kampf and jihad are apparently synonyms, there's a terrible historical echo to this rise in antisemitism.

JazzyBBBG · 03/10/2025 11:05

Imagine this was the other way around and someone attacked a mosque. The outcry and civil unrest would be beyond belief (and yes I know this has happened before - I'm talking in the current climate).

I don't think the reaction from government has been strong enough. I appreciate there are facts unknown still but it needs to be entirely demonstrable that this will not be tolerated.

There will be more to come on this one. Just because he wasn't known to Prevent doesn't mean he won't have a criminal record or other issues. His name was Jihad FFS. You can't name your child Hitler but Jihad is acceptable.

GinaDav · 03/10/2025 11:05

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 09:00

I agree with the comments made by the Home Secretary on this:

Shabana Mahmood condemned pro-Gaza protests held in Manchester after the attack, saying they lacked "humanity" and were "fundamentally un-British".

Hmmmm, Shabana Mahmood. The one pictured waving Free Palestine flags, who chose not to vote on Palestine Action being proscribed as a terrorist organisation and demonstrated at her local Sainsbury’s in protest at them selling products sourced from Isreal? That Shabana Mahmood?

inamarina · 03/10/2025 10:57

GentleSheep · 03/10/2025 08:00

To respond by investigating it as a crime, find and arrest those responsible and put them through due process through the courts, ensuring the law was applied while also complying with international law. And send rescue parties to get the hostages back or better still negotiate their return.

Sounds so civilised doesn't it! 'Find and arrest those responsible' - in those hundreds of miles of labyrinthine tunnels? Yep, let's send a couple of teams, should do the trick. Negotiate the return of the hostages? What do you think has been going on all this time? Hamas never comply with anything. Plus the minute you find one terrorist and put them in prison another 10 will spring up and carry on the same work the first one was doing. Then, you try to negotiate and end up releasing 100 terrorists from your prisons just to get one hostage back, who by now is of course dead so you only get a body. Those aren't exact numbers of course but there are many news articles of the lengths Israel has gone to. Yet at the end of that, how much progress has actually been made? It's the stuff of nightmares.

It’s bonkers, isn’t it?
Just in the last two years Israel had to release over 2,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for less than 200 hostages, this is how Hamas operates.
And yet, people suggest that the perpetrators of October 7th should have been arrested and imprisoned.
How long would they’ve stayed in prison for, I wonder? Until the next round of hostages is taken?

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:56

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:52

Do you think your posts support Jewish people? Maybe listening to people experiencing what they are is better.

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I think recognising an increase in anti semitism supports Jewish people. Lots of poster on here like to pretend it isn't happening or use the situation in Gaza as some kind of justification for it. I think it's important to counteract that.

I'm not sure where you are going with this or what the point you are trying to make is.

BurntBroccoli · 03/10/2025 10:54

HellsBalls · 02/10/2025 19:42

There’s currently a flash pro-Palestine protest in Whitehall.
Utter scum.

I think this was a global protest as Israel stopped aid boats.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/israel-stops-13-gaza-aid-boats-organisers-say-sparking-international-criticism-2025-10-02/

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:52

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:50

Well it's up to you how you want to support.
I think that recognising the increase in anti semitism is an important part of supporting the Jewish community.

If you don't agree then don't do it

Do you think your posts support Jewish people? Maybe listening to people experiencing what they are is better.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:50

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:48

Why would I do that? I want to hear from Jewish people and give support.

As @SharonEllissaid let Jewish people speak, I’m here to listen.

This thread was about support.

Well it's up to you how you want to support.
I think that recognising the increase in anti semitism is an important part of supporting the Jewish community.

If you don't agree then don't do it

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:48

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:46

Because if we don't recognise it then we can't fight against it.
Do you think ignoring antisemitism helps Jewish people?

Why would I do that? I want to hear from Jewish people and give support.

As @SharonEllissaid let Jewish people speak, I’m here to listen.

This thread was about support.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:46

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:36

Why? How does it help Jewish people?

Because if we don't recognise it then we can't fight against it.
Do you think ignoring antisemitism helps Jewish people?

ThisLemonHare · 03/10/2025 10:44

The whataboutery is disgusting. British people were murdered in Britain for being Jewish. Peaceful, law-abiding people whose existence was enough to make someone want to murder them. It's horrific. Sympathy and solidarity to all the Jewish people who feel even more vulnerable today than they already did.

EasternStandard · 03/10/2025 10:36

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:07

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

Why? How does it help Jewish people?

quantumbutterfly · 03/10/2025 10:18

PollyPaintsFlowers · 03/10/2025 08:37

There's always a 'but' isn't there

So many empty words. Why even bother posting?

When worshippers were mown down outside a mosque, did anyone say blame Iran? ISIS? Al Qaeeda?

Actually I think there was some talk about hate speech on social media and people waving flags that encouraged racism and that it should definitely be stopped. Down with this sort of thing etc.

caringcarer · 03/10/2025 10:17

I was on a cruise ship when October murders and hostages were taken. I saw a Jewish family praying before their dinner and I went across and asked if I could join them in their prayer to show solidarity. Several people went across to them and they said they were grateful. I think the government should have banned the huge demonstrations by people supporting Palestine as some were openly wearing the Hamas logos. Yet nothing was done. The ones wearing those logos should have been arrested and charged with insisting violence.

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:13

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

It's particularly important to labour the point on a day of a terrorist attack....

BlakeCarrington · 03/10/2025 10:08

Leoari · 02/10/2025 20:04

They said in their pro-palestinian matches ""globalise the intifada"..... this is the result. I feel real hate now for the British people who have been participating in these hate marches. They are only supporting Hamas/ Iran and are complicit in Deaths in Britain now.

Yes this is how I feel too. How have we come to this.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:07

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:01

I actually think it's important to highlight the knock on effects of the current war on Jewish people (ie increased antisemitism) as well as the obvious impact on Palestinians living in Gaza.

Yes, nobody has touched on this before...

Of course many people have spoken about it but it bears repeating. I think that Jewish people will feel the impact of this for years and that is important to recognise.

PrawnAgain · 03/10/2025 10:01

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 09:59

Well I hope this is ok to post. There is a video at the start where one of the victim's neighbour gives a very moving tribute. Adrian Daulby was a kind and caring man who would buy books and toys for the children on his street. The kind of neighbour that is seldom found in this day and age. I can't imagine what his family and friends must be going through right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

That's heartbreaking

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 10:01

The neighbour describes Adrian Daulby as 'the best guy i have seen in my life'.

clipboardz · 03/10/2025 10:01

I actually think it's important to highlight the knock on effects of the current war on Jewish people (ie increased antisemitism) as well as the obvious impact on Palestinians living in Gaza.

Yes, nobody has touched on this before...

HouseOfStarkk · 03/10/2025 09:59

Well I hope this is ok to post. There is a video at the start where one of the victim's neighbour gives a very moving tribute. Adrian Daulby was a kind and caring man who would buy books and toys for the children on his street. The kind of neighbour that is seldom found in this day and age. I can't imagine what his family and friends must be going through right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

Two men killed in Manchester synagogue attack named - as police step up patrols

On Thursday, the force named the suspect as Jihad al Shamie - a 35-year-old who is believed to be a British citizen of Syrian descent.

https://news.sky.com/story/two-men-killed-in-manchester-synagogue-attack-named-as-police-step-up-patrols-13443311

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