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justanotherpassword · 02/10/2025 03:12

Wonder why the project had to be secret. Far too often see all the pro Israeli content everywhere not just social media platforms but also forums like this.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

Israel’s secret influencer campaign exposed | The Jerusalem Post

The filings reveal that a firm called Bridges Partners LLC has been hired to manage an influencer network under a project code-named the “Esther Project.”

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

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justanotherpassword · 04/10/2025 13:57

SomeoneSomewheree · 03/10/2025 19:51

If it wasn't bad enough, Israel have now invited Tommy Robinsin to Israel. I wonder how much he will be paid to join their influencer programme.

Maybe they’ll also invite some of his supporters…you know the ones that have been caught on camera doing nazi salutes. You honestly couldn’t make this crap up.

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BelleHathor · 04/10/2025 09:03

Looks like Netanyahu and his influencers are going to have an extremely hard time "influencing" the "meme" generation.

The good thing with social media is that news spreads so quickly so lots of people know about the $7000 payments to promote Israel and are responding accordingly 😉🫣😅

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Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 22:50

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 22:33

If you'd actually bothered to watch the video and read the link about the libel verdict being overturned on appeal when the FULL video footage was shown in court, you might not have posted what you posted. Although you probably would have because it really does not fit your narrative.

I don't think MP had any involvement in the editing of the footage so I'm happy to believe what she says in the video where the footage of Muhammed clearly moving his hands across his face after 'death' is shown. The Judge in Paris believed what he saw too.

I agree with her on what you've put in italics btw because it's the truth.

France 2 won the case when they took it to the highest French court and Karsenty had to pay damages and he was convicted of defamation.

Or does that not fit your narrative.

And no I didn't watch that whole video because there is enough hate in the world without giving a woman like her views.

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 22:33

Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 22:08

This Melanie Phillips ?
Palestinianism is a moral cancer in the West — corrupting intellectual elites, frying the collective brain, and destroying the ability to tell truth from lies — and therefore to defend our way of life.”
She went on to reject the widely accepted narrative of a Palestinian people, declaring:

“The indigenous people of the land are the Jews. The ‘Palestinian people’ do not exist. They’ve admitted it themselves: we invented it to twist the minds of the West.”

To be fair she would know about libel cases having lost hers for falsely accusing a British Muslim man of anti semitism.

Thank goodness France 2 won their libel case in the end against Karsenty that she is speaking about.

Quite shocking though that Israeli official reports even suggested he was still alive and the father had to offer to exhume him.

If you'd actually bothered to watch the video and read the link about the libel verdict being overturned on appeal when the FULL video footage was shown in court, you might not have posted what you posted. Although you probably would have because it really does not fit your narrative.

I don't think MP had any involvement in the editing of the footage so I'm happy to believe what she says in the video where the footage of Muhammed clearly moving his hands across his face after 'death' is shown. The Judge in Paris believed what he saw too.

I agree with her on what you've put in italics btw because it's the truth.

Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 22:08

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 21:15

I try to expose myself to the truth as opposed to believing everything I might WANT to believe.

Yes, Muhammad Al Durrah was a case in point.

I came across the story of Muhammad at the beginning of the war in a pro-Palestinian post. My default was to be on Israel's side after seeing the images from Oct 7th as any rational person would be, so I considered if perhaps I should take a position on neutrality as it seemed Israel had also committed this terrible atrocity.

I looked up the background and lo and behold, what I found made me even more fiercely pro Israel. The Melanie Phillips video is quite shocking IMO and the attached link details the libel case brought by France 2 who were behind this shocking propaganda.

honestreporting.com/al-dura-trial-karsenty-wins-in-paris-2

This Melanie Phillips ?
Palestinianism is a moral cancer in the West — corrupting intellectual elites, frying the collective brain, and destroying the ability to tell truth from lies — and therefore to defend our way of life.”
She went on to reject the widely accepted narrative of a Palestinian people, declaring:

“The indigenous people of the land are the Jews. The ‘Palestinian people’ do not exist. They’ve admitted it themselves: we invented it to twist the minds of the West.”

To be fair she would know about libel cases having lost hers for falsely accusing a British Muslim man of anti semitism.

Thank goodness France 2 won their libel case in the end against Karsenty that she is speaking about.

Quite shocking though that Israeli official reports even suggested he was still alive and the father had to offer to exhume him.

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 21:15

Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 19:24

The fact that you would even use the term Gazawood (a derogatory term -also called Pally wood coined by Israeli commentators after the killing of 12 year old Muhammad Al Durrah by the IDfF) tells me a lot about the type of propaganda you are exposed to.

Israel and the IDF have free will, they chose to kill 8 children queuing for supplements (I note your lack of comment on this) they chose to kill 5 children going for water three weeks ago and 7 children in July doing the same thing.

Now all the money spent on TikTokkers (especially that cretin with the matching socks comment) won't sugar coat those atrocities.

I try to expose myself to the truth as opposed to believing everything I might WANT to believe.

Yes, Muhammad Al Durrah was a case in point.

I came across the story of Muhammad at the beginning of the war in a pro-Palestinian post. My default was to be on Israel's side after seeing the images from Oct 7th as any rational person would be, so I considered if perhaps I should take a position on neutrality as it seemed Israel had also committed this terrible atrocity.

I looked up the background and lo and behold, what I found made me even more fiercely pro Israel. The Melanie Phillips video is quite shocking IMO and the attached link details the libel case brought by France 2 who were behind this shocking propaganda.

honestreporting.com/al-dura-trial-karsenty-wins-in-paris-2

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https://youtu.be/DuVNF87yBB4?si=_AZ2e6wGtzurgVjW

BelleHathor · 03/10/2025 20:02

SomeoneSomewheree · 03/10/2025 19:51

If it wasn't bad enough, Israel have now invited Tommy Robinsin to Israel. I wonder how much he will be paid to join their influencer programme.

Tommy boy aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is already being paid by prominent an extremely pro Israel American billionaire Robert Shillman:

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/us-cash-turned-tommy-robinson-into-the-poster-boy-of-uk-far-right

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/07/tommy-robinson-global-support-brexit-march

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/myths-lies-and-strange-rise-%E2%80%98tommy-robinson%E2%80%99

There are some extremely rich individuals who want to stoke up race wars in Europe and America.

Mr Shillman was also the prominent financier that withdrew millions of dollars from Turning Point USA shortly before Charlie Kirk was murdered (after being accused of not promoting the Israeli narrative enough).

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/22/israel-tpusa-donor-terminated-kirk/

US cash turned Tommy Robinson into the poster boy of UK f...

US cash turned Tommy Robinson into the poster boy of UK f...

An American tech billionaire was instrumental in funding the far-right figure’s rise to stardom – and even paid for his new set of teeth

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/us-cash-turned-tommy-robinson-into-the-poster-boy-of-uk-far-right

SomeoneSomewheree · 03/10/2025 19:51

If it wasn't bad enough, Israel have now invited Tommy Robinsin to Israel. I wonder how much he will be paid to join their influencer programme.

Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 19:24

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 18:21

How is what I posted propaganda?

It's a fact that the government of Gaza deliberately started a dirty war and deliberately put children in harm's way by providing absolutely no protection or safety for their citizens and actively orchestrated their deaths by using them as human sacrifices as evidenced by public statements they themselves have made.

I don't believe much of what comes out of Gaza btw as have seen too many Gazawood productions and AI generated pictures that make me doubt the veracity of terrorist propaganda.

Why the need to fake it if it is true?

The fact that you would even use the term Gazawood (a derogatory term -also called Pally wood coined by Israeli commentators after the killing of 12 year old Muhammad Al Durrah by the IDfF) tells me a lot about the type of propaganda you are exposed to.

Israel and the IDF have free will, they chose to kill 8 children queuing for supplements (I note your lack of comment on this) they chose to kill 5 children going for water three weeks ago and 7 children in July doing the same thing.

Now all the money spent on TikTokkers (especially that cretin with the matching socks comment) won't sugar coat those atrocities.

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 18:25

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 16:44

I’d be interested to know how many 18-19 year old have been called to serve in the IDF since the war started.

The IDF do not count dead 18-19 year old soldiers (and there have been quite a few sadly) as children.

Hamas count all 18-19 year olds as children.

HTHs

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 18:21

Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 16:18

The irony posting that and then complaining about propaganda.

You know the 8 children that were killed outside a clinic as they were queuing for supplements were they deliberately put on harms way.

How is what I posted propaganda?

It's a fact that the government of Gaza deliberately started a dirty war and deliberately put children in harm's way by providing absolutely no protection or safety for their citizens and actively orchestrated their deaths by using them as human sacrifices as evidenced by public statements they themselves have made.

I don't believe much of what comes out of Gaza btw as have seen too many Gazawood productions and AI generated pictures that make me doubt the veracity of terrorist propaganda.

Why the need to fake it if it is true?

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 16:45

Numbers are a lot higher than the 20,000 I have been quoted.

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justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 16:44

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 16:13

Who's propaganda are you buying then? You're definitely buying someone's.

BTW the figures you are quoting come straight from Hamas.

Certainly children have been killed as they were deliberately put in harms way and there doesn't seem to have much interest or pressure from pro-Palestinians to evacuate children out of the war zone as they would be any other war, but I'd like to know how many 13-19 year olds were recruited by Hamas to replenish the fighters they have lost.

I’d be interested to know how many 18-19 year old have been called to serve in the IDF since the war started.

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Martymcfly24 · 03/10/2025 16:18

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 16:13

Who's propaganda are you buying then? You're definitely buying someone's.

BTW the figures you are quoting come straight from Hamas.

Certainly children have been killed as they were deliberately put in harms way and there doesn't seem to have much interest or pressure from pro-Palestinians to evacuate children out of the war zone as they would be any other war, but I'd like to know how many 13-19 year olds were recruited by Hamas to replenish the fighters they have lost.

The irony posting that and then complaining about propaganda.

You know the 8 children that were killed outside a clinic as they were queuing for supplements were they deliberately put on harms way.

TicklishMauveSquid · 03/10/2025 16:13

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 12:57

I’m surprised that given the death toll of innocent women and children in Palestine being killed indiscriminately still gets people voicing support like you for Israel. That’s where my surprise lies. Where have you ever said what about the poor Palestinian women and children? Where is your empathy? 20,000 children. Read that number out loud.

You are all over the boards constantly harping on about Hamas this, Hamas that. Where has anyone offered their support to Hamas? You are incredibly anti Muslim. The sad thing is you can’t see it or you can and don’t care. But I’m being accused of being anti semetic because I hate what Israel is doing and I don’t buy into their propaganda BS.

Who's propaganda are you buying then? You're definitely buying someone's.

BTW the figures you are quoting come straight from Hamas.

Certainly children have been killed as they were deliberately put in harms way and there doesn't seem to have much interest or pressure from pro-Palestinians to evacuate children out of the war zone as they would be any other war, but I'd like to know how many 13-19 year olds were recruited by Hamas to replenish the fighters they have lost.

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 14:46

I'm not anti Muslim let alone incredibly anti Muslim and if I were I wouldn't have expressed concern at Israel blocking humanitarian aid to Gazans and I wouldn't have said I disagree with Israel allowing the Settlers in the West Bank. I have made posts before showing regret at what has happened to Palestinian women & children and all innocent civilians in Gaza but no, I'm not going to waste time searching for them because most people reading this know my stance which is not as you describe.

Your comment about being surprised that a forum aimed at mainly mums would still support Israel shows a lack of understanding that both sides has many supporters. How can that be anything other than antisemitic? I would never say I'm surprised people can support Russia for example, because I have nothing against Russians only that their government was wrong in my opinion to start the war against Ukraine. Every war has supporters on both sides so there's no reason Israel would have no supporters on MN.

You repeating 20,000 children repeatedly on threads doesn't make the number any more or less meaningful. It is a terrible number which no one has ever disputed. The whole dispute is whether ultimately we blame Israel or Hamas for the war. I happen to blame Hamas but that doesn't make me anti Muslim.

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 12:57

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 10:08

And don’t try to drag other pro Pals into this @justanotherpassword

It was specifically you who expressed surprise that anyone on MN would support Israel.

I’m surprised that given the death toll of innocent women and children in Palestine being killed indiscriminately still gets people voicing support like you for Israel. That’s where my surprise lies. Where have you ever said what about the poor Palestinian women and children? Where is your empathy? 20,000 children. Read that number out loud.

You are all over the boards constantly harping on about Hamas this, Hamas that. Where has anyone offered their support to Hamas? You are incredibly anti Muslim. The sad thing is you can’t see it or you can and don’t care. But I’m being accused of being anti semetic because I hate what Israel is doing and I don’t buy into their propaganda BS.

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Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 10:08

And don’t try to drag other pro Pals into this @justanotherpassword

It was specifically you who expressed surprise that anyone on MN would support Israel.

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 10:05

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 09:57

Stop calling people anti semetic just because we don’t agree with what Israel is doing. Please for the love of god get a better argument and stand point. Stop defaulting to that one narrative when it clearly isn’t true as much as you’d want it to be.

Should I call you anti Muslim every time?

There is blame on both sides. Have a listen to what Jon Stewart a prominent Jew and comedian has to say on the matter.

No you don’t need to call me anti Muslim because I can see both points of view re what is happening in Gaza. I have many times expressed sympathy for innocent Gaza civilians not associated with Hamas and I have disagreed with several different aspects of Israel’s policy in this war.

If you are surprised that ANY of the huge MN community support Israel then it’s pretty clear you have anti Jewish attitudes.

People without a clear bias would absolutely have expected what we in fact see - a variety of opinions.

justanotherpassword · 03/10/2025 09:57

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 07:47

I’m not blaming “everyone else” for the war, I’m blaming Hamas.

They’re struggling to accept the peace plan aren’t they … seems like they don’t much care about the number of their own civilians dying each day. Which will massively increase if the IDF increase their offensive in Gaza City.

That you would be surprised that anyone on a forum as large & diverse as MN would support Israel in their war against Hamas says more about your anti Jewish attitudes than anything. Were you surprised on 7/10/23 that people were supporting Israel? Were you surprised when Hetanyahu pledged to unleash hell in response?

I wasn’t surprised by his response and guess what - neither was Hamas. They wanted a big conflict in Gaza it just hasn’t worked out the way they hoped.

Stop calling people anti semetic just because we don’t agree with what Israel is doing. Please for the love of god get a better argument and stand point. Stop defaulting to that one narrative when it clearly isn’t true as much as you’d want it to be.

Should I call you anti Muslim every time?

There is blame on both sides. Have a listen to what Jon Stewart a prominent Jew and comedian has to say on the matter.

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BelleHathor · 03/10/2025 08:32

Deerfolk · 03/10/2025 08:13

Don’t you remember those awful YouTube adverts that were aimed at children with the music. Urhhh. Plus the weird one with Santa crying. Isreal spends a lot on propaganda

Yup, they placed them on YouTube kids which is meant to be suitable for parents to trust will be safe for their kids. It also repeated the 40 deads babies lie.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/eyQCnst5Kqo

https://www.reuters.com/world/graphic-pro-israel-ads-make-their-way-into-childrens-video-games-2023-10-30/

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 08:27

So no @MissyB1 it would not include anyone that thinks what Israel is doing in Gaza is absolutely wrong and not justified?

That's just personal opinion as far as I'm concerned and I respect other people's right to have a different opinion to myself.

Even I (as an Israel supporter) believe the Israel government's response has become disproportionate so I can understand why some people might be horrified at how many civilians are getting killed. I want peace in Gaza more than anything.

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 08:22

MissyB1 · 03/10/2025 08:14

Out of interest how do you define "their supporters"? Would that include anyone that thinks what Israel is doing in Gaza is absolutely wrong and not justified?

I define Hamas supporters in the context of what I wrote as people that actively show approval/support for what Hamas are doing.

So if you are someone that celebrated on 7/10 or contributed to the attacks, if you cheered at the vile hostage shows for example, if you are someone in Gaza that has helped to conceal a hostage, if you are someone knowingly involved in Hamas propaganda - then I have no sympathy for you.

Gaimbin · 03/10/2025 08:16

Deerfolk · 03/10/2025 08:13

Don’t you remember those awful YouTube adverts that were aimed at children with the music. Urhhh. Plus the weird one with Santa crying. Isreal spends a lot on propaganda

So does Iran, Qatar, Hamas, the UK, the US, Russia, China, etc, etc.

MissyB1 · 03/10/2025 08:14

Twiglets1 · 03/10/2025 08:08

They can of course.

The only people I have zero compassion for are Hamas & their supporters.

Out of interest how do you define "their supporters"? Would that include anyone that thinks what Israel is doing in Gaza is absolutely wrong and not justified?

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