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justanotherpassword · 02/10/2025 03:12

Wonder why the project had to be secret. Far too often see all the pro Israeli content everywhere not just social media platforms but also forums like this.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

Israel’s secret influencer campaign exposed | The Jerusalem Post

The filings reveal that a firm called Bridges Partners LLC has been hired to manage an influencer network under a project code-named the “Esther Project.”

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

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BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 18:39

Martymcfly24 · 07/10/2025 18:05

Tal Heinrich spokesperson for the Israeli prime ministers office on the 11th October said babies and toddlers were beheaded and spoke about tiny body bag but she never mentioned a number at that time.

Yes, she was formerly a presenter for the Israeli Channel 14 and before that the Jerusalem Bureau for CNN:
https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329
"It was later reported by at least one major TV news network that the reports of babies being beheaded had been "confirmed" by a spokesperson for the Israeli prime minister's office.

This was subsequently attributed to Tal Heinrich, a freelance news anchor who appears to have been drafted in by Benjamin Netanyahu's office on 8 October to assist with media relations in the wake of Hamas's attacks a day earlier.

The only available public statement on the matter from Ms Heinrich at the time of writing was an interview she conducted with LBC on Wednesday, in which she was asked about the claims.

Ms Heinrich, who was quoted by LBC as a spokesperson for Mr Netanyahu's office, said: "Toddlers, babies, I can tell you some of them... yes, heads were cut off. This is what we are hearing from... soldiers on the ground who dealt with the bodies."

Replying to a later post on X linking to a story citing her comments, she said on Wednesday evening: "Please note: We said that these reports are based on testimonies of soldiers."

The lie was started by an IDF soldier and then broadcast by the Israeli Channel i24. Then repeated all around the World without being fact checked.

It's played a part in why governments lent their unconditional support to the Israeli response (even Trump mentioned burnt babies numerous times in the last 2 weeks)

The reason it set of alarm bell was that it was so similar to the The Nayirah Testimony which had been used to manufacture consent for the first Gulf War. :

"The Nayirah testimony was false testimony given before the United States Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl who was publicly identified only as Nayirah at the time, and presented herself as having been a volunteer nurse at a Kuwaiti hospital at the time of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. In her testimony, which took place two months after the invasion, she claimed to have witnessed Iraqi soldiers taking premature babies out of incubators in a maternity ward before looting the incubators and leaving the babies to die on the floor. Nayirah's statements were widely publicized and cited numerous times in the United States Senate and by American president George H. W. Bush to contribute to the rationale for pursuing military action against Iraq. Her portrayal of Iraqi war crimes was aimed at further increasing global support for Kuwait against the Iraqi occupation during the Gulf War, which resulted in the expulsion of Iraqi troops from Kuwait by a 42-country coalition led by the United States.

What we actually know about the viral report of beheaded babies in Israel

One journalist from the Tel Aviv-based news channel i24 said a soldier told her they had "witnessed… bodies of babies with their heads cut off" at the Kfar Aza kibbutz near the Gaza border - but no Israeli officials have confirmed the claim.

https://news.sky.com/story/its-important-to-separate-the-facts-from-speculation-what-we-actually-know-about-the-viral-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:34

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 17:53

You're to be commended for trying to have a reasonable, informed discussion with anyone who thinks publicity stunt SM posts, antisemitic trope filled propaganda websites and ultra right wing Americans racists lying their arses off constitute facts.

There was nothing reasonable or informed. Unhinged yes, informed no.

Martymcfly24 · 07/10/2025 18:05

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 17:40

Lakes is right, I'm not responding because you presented no facts.

To respond would be to waste my time and energy. I know what's been debunked, so do millions of people around the World (as it was debunked live in the media and on social media, including on threads Mumsnet).

All the misinformation has been recorded, archived and will be used in future to pursue legal remedies against the perpetrators.

Tal Heinrich spokesperson for the Israeli prime ministers office on the 11th October said babies and toddlers were beheaded and spoke about tiny body bag but she never mentioned a number at that time.

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 17:57

All the misinformation has been recorded, archived and will be used in future to pursue legal remedies against the perpetrators.

Do let us know when you're due at the Hague with your binder of very important evidence.

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 17:53

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 17:25

How does that comment make sense.

She’s not responding because she doesn’t want to give an answer.

You're to be commended for trying to have a reasonable, informed discussion with anyone who thinks publicity stunt SM posts, antisemitic trope filled propaganda websites and ultra right wing Americans racists lying their arses off constitute facts.

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 17:40

Lakes is right, I'm not responding because you presented no facts.

To respond would be to waste my time and energy. I know what's been debunked, so do millions of people around the World (as it was debunked live in the media and on social media, including on threads Mumsnet).

All the misinformation has been recorded, archived and will be used in future to pursue legal remedies against the perpetrators.

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 17:25

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 16:37

Maybe she would if you fact checked your 'facts' a bit.

How does that comment make sense.

She’s not responding because she doesn’t want to give an answer.

inamarina · 07/10/2025 17:09

PrawnAgain · 07/10/2025 11:39

Palestinians showed themselves for who they are very clearly that day 2 years ago IMO

Do you hold Palestinians collectively responsible for the actions of Hamas? Surely this makes you just had bad as the antisemitic people who hold Jewish people collectively responsible for the actions of Netanyahu.

It wasn’t just the actions of Hamas pp was talking about though.
There were also people celebrating in the streets of Gaza on October 7th, and hundreds had stormed across the border and joined the attacks. They weren’t all just Hamas.

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 16:37

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 15:38

Why are deflecting from answering the questions in my post of 14:12?

You raised these alleged lies, so why not respond to the very valid points I have made?

Where did Daniel Hagari lie in that video?

Where did the Israeli government say 40 babies were beheaded?

Quite simple questions.

It’s laughable that Palestinian propagandists claim Haaretz as a creditable news source just because it’s Israeli.

It is a low circulation lefty newspaper known as being liberal on Israel’s security and directly against Netanyahu’s government. Kind of on the level of chickens being in favour of KFC.

Maybe she would if you fact checked your 'facts' a bit.

inamarina · 07/10/2025 16:31

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TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 15:38

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 14:44

I'm not going back and forth with propagandists spreading misinformation after 2 years.

So many false claims about Netanyahu and the IDF have already been debunked.

HAARETZ wrote an article in December 2023 debunking many lies:
-40 beheaded babies
-Baby burned in oven
-A pregnant woman's stomach opened & her fetus removed
-Children bound together & burned
-Pregnant hostage giving birth the 40 beheaded babies lie in December 2023.

It confirms that tragically 1 baby was murdered on October 7th.

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-12-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/0000018c-2036-d21c-abae-76be08fe0000?utm_source=AppShare&utmmedium=AndroidNative&utmcampaign=Share

On Hagari and how lying leads to an erosion of trust

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/information-missteps-led-questions-israels-credibility-rcna125723

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Why are deflecting from answering the questions in my post of 14:12?

You raised these alleged lies, so why not respond to the very valid points I have made?

Where did Daniel Hagari lie in that video?

Where did the Israeli government say 40 babies were beheaded?

Quite simple questions.

It’s laughable that Palestinian propagandists claim Haaretz as a creditable news source just because it’s Israeli.

It is a low circulation lefty newspaper known as being liberal on Israel’s security and directly against Netanyahu’s government. Kind of on the level of chickens being in favour of KFC.

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 15:28

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BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 14:44

I'm not going back and forth with propagandists spreading misinformation after 2 years.

So many false claims about Netanyahu and the IDF have already been debunked.

HAARETZ wrote an article in December 2023 debunking many lies:
-40 beheaded babies
-Baby burned in oven
-A pregnant woman's stomach opened & her fetus removed
-Children bound together & burned
-Pregnant hostage giving birth the 40 beheaded babies lie in December 2023.

It confirms that tragically 1 baby was murdered on October 7th.

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-12-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/0000018c-2036-d21c-abae-76be08fe0000?utm_source=AppShare&utmmedium=AndroidNative&utmcampaign=Share

On Hagari and how lying leads to an erosion of trust

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/information-missteps-led-questions-israels-credibility-rcna125723

טבח חמאס גרר הפצת סיפורי זוועות שלא קרו במציאות. האמת קשה מספיק

מחבלי חמאס שחדרו לישראל ביצעו פשעים נגד האנושות ורצחו המונים באכזריות. יחד עם התיאורים הקשים, נשמעו גם עדויות שגויות, שבהפצתן השתתפו בין היתר מתנדב זק"א, קציני צה"ל, נשיא איחוד הצלה ושרה נתניהו

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-12-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/0000018c-2036-d21c-abae-76be08fe0000

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 14:41

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 14:20

I am willing to bet there are many more pro-Palestinian ‘influencers’ being paid than pro-Israel.

Our media is absolutely saturated with anti Israel hate and bias. Hatred is palpable on the streets at weekly demos and marches all over the West.

Jewish communities are attacked and Jewish people murdered.

The Palestinian flag and keffiyah (which is actually Iraqi) is everywhere.

Who has been paying for that?

As usual every accusation is a confession.

it’s a script,

Who has been paying for the Palestian flags and scarves, possibly those holding and wearing them.

Have you any proof that the Hamas govt are infiltrating the UK with flags and scarves?

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 14:20

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:51

Are you speaking about your own argument because that is the one not standing up to scrutiny.

This is a thread about Israel paying influencers to push their perspective. If you don't want to talk about people doing as such there are many other threads you could join instead.

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I am willing to bet there are many more pro-Palestinian ‘influencers’ being paid than pro-Israel.

Our media is absolutely saturated with anti Israel hate and bias. Hatred is palpable on the streets at weekly demos and marches all over the West.

Jewish communities are attacked and Jewish people murdered.

The Palestinian flag and keffiyah (which is actually Iraqi) is everywhere.

Who has been paying for that?

As usual every accusation is a confession.

it’s a script,

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 14:12

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 13:47

Alexi Sayle got it correct in his Christmas Address video where he said "they lie, they lie, they lie,...."

Remember this famous one where spokesperson Hagari lied about a calendar with the days written in Arabic were a Hamas Rota. Let’s not forget about the 40 dead beheaded babies lie too. At this point there's been so much lying only the most deluded believe the IDF or Netanyahu's government.

What did he lie about?

This is an excellent example of Hamas apologists/supporters peddling lies that they claim are Israel’s lies.

Here is the video of Daniel Hagari pointing out the calendar and what its title is.

What has he lied about?

Did anyone in the IDF or Netanyahu’s government say that there were 40 beheaded babies?

Links if you have them.

There were 40 children slaughtered so it was obviously something said relating to that and the Biden administration seemed to have spread it.

I don’t believe Israel lies anymore than any other democratic government.

From my research the Palestinians and their supporters seem to lie as easily as they breathe, starting with the lie of the ‘Great Catastrophe’. It’s the crux of the DARVO perpetrated against Israel.

Of course they NEED to because that’s all they’ve got and their whole existence is based on a massive lie!

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 14:10

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:51

Are you speaking about your own argument because that is the one not standing up to scrutiny.

This is a thread about Israel paying influencers to push their perspective. If you don't want to talk about people doing as such there are many other threads you could join instead.

Edited

Per your edit, I responded to you quoting me and your subsequent stream of posts was mostly about George Galloway, some SM links and screenshots not related to the thread topic.

What's my argument?

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 13:57

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:51

Are you speaking about your own argument because that is the one not standing up to scrutiny.

This is a thread about Israel paying influencers to push their perspective. If you don't want to talk about people doing as such there are many other threads you could join instead.

Edited

What's my argument?

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:51

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Are you speaking about your own argument because that is the one not standing up to scrutiny.

This is a thread about Israel paying influencers to push their perspective. If you don't want to talk about people doing as such there are many other threads you could join instead.

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 13:47

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:42

Edited

Alexi Sayle got it correct in his Christmas Address video where he said "they lie, they lie, they lie,...."

Remember this famous one where spokesperson Hagari lied about a calendar with the days written in Arabic were a Hamas Rota. Let’s not forget about the 40 dead beheaded babies lie too. At this point there's been so much lying only the most deluded believe the IDF or Netanyahu's government.

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Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 13:44

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LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 13:42

I mean it was taken directly from the horses mouth: ( X not Instagram BTW)

https://x.com/IsraelMFA/status/1972938224281465339?refsrc=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1972938224281465339%7Ctwgr%5Ec70958c7f8b3299344b5ba500f008e48641044b9%7Ctwcon%5Es1&refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thenational.scot%2Fnews%2F25507476.george-galloway-responds-israel-posts-image-target-circle%2F

Kind of makes you question their 'intelligence' when they're getting such details wrong 😬

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 13:36

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 10:53

Oh yeah. Israel made that up. They got George Galloway mixed up. They also said there was no aid on the flotillas but there's plenty of footage that shows it.

Critical thinking and fact checks are your friend.

Yes, whoever's responsible for that IG post circled George Galloway in the picture instead of Zaher Birawi who's sitting right next to him and was in the flotilla. The Israel Foreign Ministry didn't make up the fact that Zaher Birawi is the head of Hamas endorsed PCPA in the UK, that he has strong links to senior Hamas leaders or that he's involved in the flotilla.

An IG post from some clout chasing random calling herself a journalist isn't a fact check and if you think the PCPA isn't also used as a front for advancing Hamas divisive interests and propaganda abroad, I've got a bridge to sell you.

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 12:06

If find links difficult I've added a screenshot.

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LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 12:05

TicklishMauveSquid · 07/10/2025 11:50

This George Galloway?

His most prized possession is Haniyeh’s passport.

Hamas were proscribed in the UK in 2021.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202505051150

Did they did get him mixed up? It didn’t say who they were circling or why in that post but the nuance is clear if you use some critical thinking.

Where did you find footage of the aid on the boats btw? Can you link?

The audacity of accusing others of being paid to infiltrate ‘here’?

What is ‘here’.

It’s a lefty parenting website predominantly for mums (hence the name), with very oddly, a massive board dedicated to a war started by a proscribed Islamic terrorist organisation who invaded and committed barbaric atrocities in the only Jewish State to predominantly Jewish people.

What do you think ‘here’ is?

Of course I can provide a link it's quite easy when you're not lying.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYeZJtjUK9/?igsh=MXd1N210ZjRidm8xOQ==

George Galloway was not on the flotilla and he was not the man who Israel said he was.

www.thenational.scot/news/25507476.george-galloway-responds-israel-posts-image-target-circle/

Mathilda Mallinson on Instagram: "✅ I FACT-CHECKED some more Israeli propaganda rubber-stamped by Western media… ❌ FOX NEWS: “Israel claims no aid was found in the Gaza flotilla” 📦 Aid WAS on board - I filmed it myself 💡Israeli claims = NOT ALWA...

53K likes, 1,236 comments - mathildamall on October 4, 2025: "✅ I FACT-CHECKED some more Israeli propaganda rubber-stamped by Western media… ❌ FOX NEWS: “Israel claims no aid was found in the Gaza flotilla” 📦 Aid WAS on board - I filmed it myself...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPYeZJtjUK9/?igsh=MXd1N210ZjRidm8xOQ%3D%3D