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Influencer project

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justanotherpassword · 02/10/2025 03:12

Wonder why the project had to be secret. Far too often see all the pro Israeli content everywhere not just social media platforms but also forums like this.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

Israel’s secret influencer campaign exposed | The Jerusalem Post

The filings reveal that a firm called Bridges Partners LLC has been hired to manage an influencer network under a project code-named the “Esther Project.”

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

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BelleHathor · 13/10/2025 20:28

JustCrab · 13/10/2025 19:28

Are you actually threatening to take legal action against posters on mumsnet?

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Don't be ridiculous, I made no such threat.

There are teams of people elsewhere (including lawyers) that have archived posts, videos and other evidence of people who may have participated in crimes in Gaza (mainly IDF) or incited violence. They are pursuing war crime cases in their local jurisdictions.

JustCrab · 13/10/2025 19:28

BelleHathor · 07/10/2025 17:40

Lakes is right, I'm not responding because you presented no facts.

To respond would be to waste my time and energy. I know what's been debunked, so do millions of people around the World (as it was debunked live in the media and on social media, including on threads Mumsnet).

All the misinformation has been recorded, archived and will be used in future to pursue legal remedies against the perpetrators.

Are you actually threatening to take legal action against posters on mumsnet?

Gaimbin · 08/10/2025 18:37

justanotherpassword · 08/10/2025 13:54

Have a read what some British doctors are saying about the horrors they’ve seen. Nobody is saying Hamas won’t be standing in The Hague being accused of the horrors but Israel will also be there being accused alongside them quite rightly.

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Yes, I would imagine it's going to be quite busy.

Twiglets1 · 08/10/2025 17:40

justanotherpassword · 08/10/2025 13:54

Have a read what some British doctors are saying about the horrors they’ve seen. Nobody is saying Hamas won’t be standing in The Hague being accused of the horrors but Israel will also be there being accused alongside them quite rightly.

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Some individual Israelis will rightfully be accused & probably convicted of war crimes.

You say no one is saying Hamas won't be accused of war crimes too but that was the point being made - far less mention is being made of the fact that they are guilty of war crimes.

Everexpanding · 08/10/2025 16:14

Seems like the influence campaign is failing to halt a sea change in public opinion in America

“An Economist/You Gov poll in August found that 45% of the public believe Israel is committing genocide – a charge Israel vociferously denies – compared with only 31% who disagreed. About four in 10 American Jews believe the same, according to a new Washington Post poll.”

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justanotherpassword · 08/10/2025 13:54

Twiglets1 · 08/10/2025 09:43

The flaw in the argument is that doctors aren’t necessarily being believed by Israel supporters. Because doctors don’t see who is inflicting the injuries or under what circumstances. Doctors may be being misled themselves or be biased against Israel.

So logically there is no particular reason why the IDF would target doctors.

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Have a read what some British doctors are saying about the horrors they’ve seen. Nobody is saying Hamas won’t be standing in The Hague being accused of the horrors but Israel will also be there being accused alongside them quite rightly.

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Twiglets1 · 08/10/2025 10:48

TicklishMauveSquid · 08/10/2025 10:07

I think the PP meant Gazan doctors not international ones, who are careful never to say they witnessed any injuries taking place and also to never mention Hamas.

Of course Palestinians are going to say Israel attacked them but it could just as well be a Hamas drone or sniper, rocket, IED, land mine or not evacuating either by force or choice.

Some doctors in Gaza have been linked to Hamas which makes logical sense as we know Hamas use hospitals as bases and munitions stores, and also kept hostages in hospitals. Including the young female hostage that was left to die by a Gazan doctor. They also use ambulances to get around Gaza. Doctors will know this is going on so it makes sense that there are doctors who are part of Hamas.

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My post referred to both Gazan ones & International ones. Any of them could be biased. The health ministry in Gaza is run by Hamas so them even more so.

TicklishMauveSquid · 08/10/2025 10:07

Twiglets1 · 08/10/2025 09:43

The flaw in the argument is that doctors aren’t necessarily being believed by Israel supporters. Because doctors don’t see who is inflicting the injuries or under what circumstances. Doctors may be being misled themselves or be biased against Israel.

So logically there is no particular reason why the IDF would target doctors.

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I think the PP meant Gazan doctors not international ones, who are careful never to say they witnessed any injuries taking place and also to never mention Hamas.

Of course Palestinians are going to say Israel attacked them but it could just as well be a Hamas drone or sniper, rocket, IED, land mine or not evacuating either by force or choice.

Some doctors in Gaza have been linked to Hamas which makes logical sense as we know Hamas use hospitals as bases and munitions stores, and also kept hostages in hospitals. Including the young female hostage that was left to die by a Gazan doctor. They also use ambulances to get around Gaza. Doctors will know this is going on so it makes sense that there are doctors who are part of Hamas.

Twiglets1 · 08/10/2025 09:43

MissyB1 · 08/10/2025 08:17

Totally agree, they know Doctors and other hospital staff will be believed.

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The flaw in the argument is that doctors aren’t necessarily being believed by Israel supporters. Because doctors don’t see who is inflicting the injuries or under what circumstances. Doctors may be being misled themselves or be biased against Israel.

So logically there is no particular reason why the IDF would target doctors.

MissyB1 · 08/10/2025 08:17

justanotherpassword · 08/10/2025 05:33

Mock all you want but that’s why Doctors are being killed by Israel or tortured. They will be the ones if any are alive to be called to The Hague to recall the atrocities they witnessed.

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Totally agree, they know Doctors and other hospital staff will be believed.

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justanotherpassword · 08/10/2025 05:33

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 17:57

All the misinformation has been recorded, archived and will be used in future to pursue legal remedies against the perpetrators.

Do let us know when you're due at the Hague with your binder of very important evidence.

Mock all you want but that’s why Doctors are being killed by Israel or tortured. They will be the ones if any are alive to be called to The Hague to recall the atrocities they witnessed.

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LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 19:26

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 19:23

And yet I'm not the one using AI to construct a sentence for me...

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I'll ask you again.

What was wrong with the sentences you criticised me for?

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 19:23

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And yet I'm not the one using AI to construct a sentence for me...

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 19:13

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LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 19:10

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 19:06

Not at all, I'm just overinvested in my quest to help people use words in the correct context.

Is it because you're ashamed you can't tell the difference between blatant propaganda, opinion and fact? Are you cheekily making a self-referential little joke here? If so, it's a good one, well done.

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What was wrong with those sentences?

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 19:06

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:55

Why are you trying to change the subject and attack me?

Is it because you're ashamed you can't tell the difference between blatant propaganda, opinion and fact?

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Not at all, I'm just overinvested in my quest to help people use words in the correct context.

Is it because you're ashamed you can't tell the difference between blatant propaganda, opinion and fact? Are you cheekily making a self-referential little joke here? If so, it's a good one, well done.

inamarina · 07/10/2025 19:06

PrawnAgain · 07/10/2025 18:58

And there are Isrealis who say "finish the job" meaning kill all Palestinians. That doesn't mean that all Isrealis think that way.

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I didn’t say all Palestinians thought the same, I just pointed out it wasn’t just Hamas, since you said “Do you hold Palestinians collectively responsible for the actions of Hamas?”.

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 19:02

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 18:56

I have yes, I'd really recommend the dictionary.

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OK then. Clever clogs. What was wrong with those sentences?

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PrawnAgain · 07/10/2025 18:58

inamarina · 07/10/2025 17:09

It wasn’t just the actions of Hamas pp was talking about though.
There were also people celebrating in the streets of Gaza on October 7th, and hundreds had stormed across the border and joined the attacks. They weren’t all just Hamas.

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And there are Isrealis who say "finish the job" meaning kill all Palestinians. That doesn't mean that all Isrealis think that way.

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 18:56

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:54

Have you ever read a book? I'd totally recommend you do.

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I have yes, I'd really recommend the dictionary.

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:55

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 18:54

Did you use AI to write that?

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Why are you trying to change the subject and attack me?

Is it because you're ashamed you can't tell the difference between blatant propaganda, opinion and fact?

Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 18:54

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:52

The structure uses two distinct statements:

  1. "There was nothing reasonable or informed." (A complete sentence expressing a lack of those qualities.)
  2. "Unhinged yes, informed no." (A clipped, emphatic, and slightly informal clarification/repetition, using the comma splice correctly to separate the contrasting affirmations/negations.)
It's clear, punchy, and effectively conveys the speaker's strong opinion.
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Did you use AI to write that?

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:54

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Have you ever read a book? I'd totally recommend you do.

LakesLovely123 · 07/10/2025 18:52

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The structure uses two distinct statements:

  1. "There was nothing reasonable or informed." (A complete sentence expressing a lack of those qualities.)
  2. "Unhinged yes, informed no." (A clipped, emphatic, and slightly informal clarification/repetition, using the comma splice correctly to separate the contrasting affirmations/negations.)
It's clear, punchy, and effectively conveys the speaker's strong opinion.
Gaimbin · 07/10/2025 18:46

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