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Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 28/09/2025 20:56

The South near Rafah is more intact, but these are from Gaza city and the North.

It's gone. There's barely a building that hasn't got significant damage/a burnt out shell.

I don't know how anyone can look at this and say that is ok. Or look at it and not blame the people who dropped those bombs. I wonder how many of those buildings were occupied at the time. I wonder how many dead or dying people are under the destroyed buildings we see right now.

Thanks to Google maps this level of destruction can't be hidden any more. I just hope that one day the monsters that ordered this genocide face justice for it. Nothing can ever justify this. It's a never crime for a reason.

Ps: I didn't look for the worst bits, it's pretty much all the same up north. You can look for yourselves.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 20:11

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So Christianity is interchangeable, depending on location?

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 20:09

inamarina · 01/10/2025 20:01

If the Israeli government cares as little for their citizens as Hamas does for Gazans, why did they agree to release over two thousand Palestinian prisoners in exchange for less than two hundred Israeli hostages?

Because Netanyahu was under enormous scrutiny. It’s what the hostage families - rightly - demanded.

BoredZelda · 01/10/2025 20:03

Comedycook · 29/09/2025 13:21

I imagine Dresden didn't look too great after ww2...

It’s almost as if we should never accept it being done again……

inamarina · 01/10/2025 20:01

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:50

Hamas is repellent. As is the Netanyahu Cabinet. Neither care about the people they supposedly represent.

If the Israeli government cares as little for their citizens as Hamas does for Gazans, why did they agree to release over two thousand Palestinian prisoners in exchange for less than two hundred Israeli hostages?

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 20:00

The problem is that we've become so preoccupied with tolerance that we're afraid to challenge atrocities whenever there's a cultural or religious element.

I mean, what other demographic has in the past decade sexually assaulted 1200 women in one night in a western country? These types of incidents are common in the middle east so it's not just a freak occurrence.

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:55

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MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:53

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:51

I'm not even sure the non-militant groups have evolved much either tbh. Even here in the UK the majority of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal. It's just a problematic religion IMO.

Tbh, African Christian Bishops are equally outspoken against homosexuality. As are many catholic leaders. Hardly an exclusive Muslim no-no, is it?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 19:53

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:43

I am pro no group, @PollyPaintsFlowers .

Religiously, I’m atheist. I sat and watched in horror at the horrific reports of 7th October. As a mother of two young people my empathy was instant. I have that same empathy for the young people suffering equally horrific acts in Gaza today.

At some point, for the future, the past has to be put behind.

Exactly. This harping back to 1948 and arguing for a one state solution isn't doing anything for the Palestinian cause. Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Gazan activist who lives in the US, has spoken widely about the actual harm western activists who organise these marches and chooses the messaging actually do to the prospects of long term peace for Palestinians. Again, talking about pro-Palestinians in general.

Israel isn't going anywhere. The best prospect for peace right now is this peace deal. Western and Arabic countries are on board with it, hopefully they can make Hamas see sense.

The war has to end now

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:51

Didntask · 01/10/2025 18:17

Well, no, because Britain has evolved since then. Islamic militant groups certainly have not.

I'm not even sure the non-militant groups have evolved much either tbh. Even here in the UK the majority of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal. It's just a problematic religion IMO.

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:50

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:45

Indeed. But Hamas knew this would happen and they still went ahead and killed loads of Israeli civilians.

Hamas is repellent. As is the Netanyahu Cabinet. Neither care about the people they supposedly represent.

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:45

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 19:37

Again you can’t murder kids and say someone else made you do it. That is psychotic.

Indeed. But Hamas knew this would happen and they still went ahead and killed loads of Israeli civilians.

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:43

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 19:38

Just like on October 7th, and yet we have all these pro-Palestinians justifying it by saying it didn't start then

I am pro no group, @PollyPaintsFlowers .

Religiously, I’m atheist. I sat and watched in horror at the horrific reports of 7th October. As a mother of two young people my empathy was instant. I have that same empathy for the young people suffering equally horrific acts in Gaza today.

At some point, for the future, the past has to be put behind.

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 19:38

Didntask · 01/10/2025 18:17

Well, no, because Britain has evolved since then. Islamic militant groups certainly have not.

Neither have militant illegal settlers.
Please acknowledge there is evil intent on both sides”sides”.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 19:38

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 19:37

Again you can’t murder kids and say someone else made you do it. That is psychotic.

Just like on October 7th, and yet we have all these pro-Palestinians justifying it by saying it didn't start then

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 19:37

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:20

Israel have always responded disproportionately to terrorist attacks. Hamas would've known many civilians would die during the retaliation. Sadly, they probably share a similar mindset to the Taliban in terms of being happy to sacrifice the populations human rights in the name of ideology.

Again you can’t murder kids and say someone else made you do it. That is psychotic.

VimtoIcePop · 01/10/2025 19:20

Israel have always responded disproportionately to terrorist attacks. Hamas would've known many civilians would die during the retaliation. Sadly, they probably share a similar mindset to the Taliban in terms of being happy to sacrifice the populations human rights in the name of ideology.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 18:53

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:13

So over a hundred years ago, the people that did that are long dead. We were at war with Britain a hundred years ago - soldiers committed brutal crimes against the Irish population, look up the black & tans, a lovely bunch of murdering rapists. Should I shoot my partner because his ancestors did this to my ancestors?

What you do with your partner is your own business 😁

So it's all in the past now because it doesn't fit your narrative? Does it make your point of a minority of Palestinians taking in Jewish refugees a moot point?

Whereas my point was certainly pertinent in the context in which it was given - in response to someone asking how it came to this

Additionally, if it's all in the past, why do pro-Palestinians like to keep saying it didn't start on October 7th and keep harking back to 1948?

This war was started by Hamas who committed a massacre on October 7th, they even stabbed women as they were raping them and shot a nine month old baby dead in it's mother' arms, and promised to repeat further massacres. How could any country be accepted to tolerate that?

Hopefully Hamas' so called allies will apply pressure on them to accept the peace deal so the bloodshed can end

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 18:47

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:34

The ordinary Palestinian people are not Islamic militants. It’s like a rapist saying a woman was asking for it or a man who murders his wife saying it was self defense. It is victim blaming. The murdered children did nothing to you, they did not deserve to die.

They may not all be militants but according to a local survey most Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank still support Hamas and their actions on October 7th

Hamas brought this upon the Palestinians, hopefully they accept the peace plan and end the war and this can all stop

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:34

Didntask · 01/10/2025 18:17

Well, no, because Britain has evolved since then. Islamic militant groups certainly have not.

The ordinary Palestinian people are not Islamic militants. It’s like a rapist saying a woman was asking for it or a man who murders his wife saying it was self defense. It is victim blaming. The murdered children did nothing to you, they did not deserve to die.

Didntask · 01/10/2025 18:17

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:13

So over a hundred years ago, the people that did that are long dead. We were at war with Britain a hundred years ago - soldiers committed brutal crimes against the Irish population, look up the black & tans, a lovely bunch of murdering rapists. Should I shoot my partner because his ancestors did this to my ancestors?

Well, no, because Britain has evolved since then. Islamic militant groups certainly have not.

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:13

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 18:05

It wasn't hundreds of years ago, it was recent. Palestinians carried out multiple massacres of Jews in the early and mid 1900s. There may have been some Palestinians that took in jewish refugees, but others were massacring them

It's all documented online, would you like a link?

So over a hundred years ago, the people that did that are long dead. We were at war with Britain a hundred years ago - soldiers committed brutal crimes against the Irish population, look up the black & tans, a lovely bunch of murdering rapists. Should I shoot my partner because his ancestors did this to my ancestors?

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:09

Iamfree · 01/10/2025 18:00

@KoalaKoKoas I said upthread, the Israelis are not listening to you. Please also remind me why not a Muslim country is happy to take the Gazans, not Egypt, not Jordan, not Saudi. Not even the innocent toddlers who will be brainwashed and one day will turn into terrorists. I know why …

It is their land, why the hell should they leave! The world will remember what you did to these children and you will have to answer for it in this life or the next.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 18:07

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 18:05

Because they’ll never be allowed back home and the countries you mentioned don’t want to cover the associated costs of settling 2 million plus people.

Or maybe it's because after Jordan allowed Palestinians in they tried to overthrow the government by staging a coup and in Lebanon Palestinian refugees ethnically cleansed Maronite Christians from the south of the country and started a widespread civil war

The Muslim Brotherhood have a heavy presence in Gaza and the West Bank and that's why Egypt don't trust the Palestinians enough to admit them in

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/10/2025 18:06

Martymcfly24 · 01/10/2025 18:01

Inexcusable behavior.

Along with Israelis destroying aid, stopping aid trucks and organising viewing points parties to watch people being killed.

This.

Why do some people refuse to acknowledge that there is reprehensible behaviour and opinions on both sides”sides”?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 01/10/2025 18:05

KoalaKoKo · 01/10/2025 18:02

The first refugees from WW2 were actually taken in by Palestinians and stayed in their homes, many older Israelis have talked about initially staying with Palestinians in their homes, it is well documented.

You can’t kill and displace a population because they “might” do what you are actually doing to them. Historically the UK committed murder and genocide in Ireland, 800 years of it, they also did some gruesome things in India, Africa, Argentina - today there is no peace and we live peacefully side by side. You can’t murder people because of something someone did hundreds of years ago - it is sociopathic.

It wasn't hundreds of years ago, it was recent. Palestinians carried out multiple massacres of Jews in the early and mid 1900s. There may have been some Palestinians that took in jewish refugees, but others were massacring them

It's all documented online, would you like a link?