Gaza Flotilla - genuine peace activists or Hamas puppets?

The severely ill child? Just the one was there? Hospitals in Italy have gone down hill since I was in one with my kid with a broken finger last year.

Fake account right...

Yet the UK arrested her as soon as she got back to the UK. She has been charged with offences related to the support of Hamas.

Secondly, and importantly, she says someone set up a social media account with her name and picture and posted that to discredit her.

Oh really....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgmzrx8x4ydo

That plus calling Israelis "not human, monsters" makes me not terribly inclined to take her word.

Clearly they didn't SpaceRacoon or children wouldn't have died from malnutrion.

The images of the severely ill child that were published in the media at the time, were taking in I believe Italy, where the child was receiving treatment.

Not sarcastic, no. The activist was talking about all Israelis (quite a few of whom are Arabs btw), not just about those particular ministers who had previously made similar statements about Palestinians. I wouldn’t have agreed with them either.

Firstly that is one person out of 500, if we claimed every Israeli was a murderer because of the actions of the IDF and settlers you would loudly rightly object. Just as all Palestinians are not Hamas and all Israelis don’t want to murder Palestinian babies, all the people on the flotilla are not the same person.

Secondly, and importantly, she says someone set up a social media account with her name and picture and posted that to discredit her. If she actually posted that under her own name online it is unlikely she would then say “it wasn’t me”. Given that this happened to a wonderful journalist who was murdered by the IDF, he ended up having 3 accounts with his picture and pro Israel accounts were sharing snapshots of things “he posted” which in fact were from one of the two fake accounts. This makes me question the legitimacy of the tweets. Let us not forget how the IDF also shared video footage of Hamas looting that turned out to be a gang in their employ, they put a lot of effort using social media to give it the old razzle dazzle and manipulate the public.

Clearly they didn't SpaceRacoon or children wouldn't have died from malnutrion.

Denying all aid is now just war is it? Why don't you just answer the question, why did Israel prevent food and medicine from reaching innocent people?

This is why some people are so concerned by this conflict BTW. Because some people are trying to make forced starvation into 'just war', it's not 'just war' it's against international law, the laws that help keep is all safe. Some of us don't want to give up these laws just so a crazy middle eastern country can have a bit more land.

Info on some of the flotilla members.

includes holocaust denial, open support for hamas and celebration of 7 October.

gnasherjew.com/flotilla-to-provide-aid-for-gaza-laden-with-supporters-of-terrorism-antisemites-and-holocaust-deniers/

Since there isn't, I'd assume that food is getting in and the distribution is working now.

Israel facilitated travel abroad for these children, which seems an odd way of genociding them.
Yes it's awful for seriously unwell children to be caught up in a war situation. That's why Hamas needs to go urgently, after bringing that down on their population.

Then you weren't looking SpaceRacoon. And those gravely ill children had food and medicine withheld from them by Israel. Why do you think that Israel decided to stop these extremely vulnerable children from having aid, it wasn't because Hamas were stealing it so why? What possible reason could they have for increasing the suffering of these poor vulnerable children and often babies?

Aside from images taken of gravely ill children suffering from serious illnesses that were released during that propaganda push, I've seen NO pictures of underweight or malnourished Gazans. None recently as the current propaganda has all been flotilla related.

As you know they had to be pressured by other countries(thanks to activists who pressured their governments) to allow some aid back in. Left to themselves they would merrily have kept the block on food going. You never answered the question why do you think they stopped aid to 2 million people when we know it wasn't because Hamas were stealing it?

Now you have:

https://x.com/JonPegasus/status/1975240358847259133

Must be hundreds of thousands of people starved to death then?

Why do you think they decided to starve 2 million people then? We know it's not because Hamas were stealing all of the aid, so why? Do you think they are too thick to realise what happens when people have no food?

your instinct is to defend Sarah Wilkinson @WoodlandLove but have you Googled her at all?

I just did and found she was arrested as soon as she was back in the UK.

Counter terrorism detectives have charged a 62-year-old woman with offences relating to the support of Hamas, an armed Palestinian group and political movement in the Gaza Strip.

Sarah Wilkinson, from Bishop’s Castle, Shropshire, was charged on Sunday with five offences under UK terrorism legislation, following her arrest in August 2024, said West Mercia Police.

Ms Wilkinson is accused of two offences of supporting a proscribed organisation, one each of encouragement and dissemination, as well as failing to comply with a S.49 RIPA notice, which relates to providing passwords for access to digital devices.

She is due to appear before Westminster Magistrates' Court on 20 October, the force said.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgmzrx8x4ydo

Genuine peace activists obviously. Look at their history and listen to what they are saying. Wanting the Israelis to stop their brutal genocide has absolutely nothing to do with supporting Hamas atrocities.

Are you sure she was talking about the entire nation? I think she may just have been referring to the police/guards who dealt with them personally? I don't know though.
I personally abhor antisemitism and would never tar an entire population of a country with the same brush. I was utterly horrified by October 7th, two years ago today. But, am also utterly horrified by the genocide in Gaza and I unequivocally condemn Netanyahu as the criminal he is. The IDF are committing a genocide, and I do think some of them have lost their humanity. They have to have to starve innocents like that.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive at all. I think it's a pretty widespread view - October 7th and antisemitism - horrific, the genocide in Gaza - horrific.
Re the flotilla folk - I see them as very brave and genuine. Obviously there may be some exceptions, but those I've seen interviewed definitely gave no impression of being pro Hamas. Just pro babies being fed etc.

There is no genocide. If Israel wanted to genocide Gaza, there wouldn’t be any Gazan’s left alive today.
Why would Israel, if they were committed to a genocide, be going so, so slow? And why would they be interested in the ceasefire? Surely a ceasefire would end the alleged genocide?
It’s Hamas and their supporters who have vowed to kill every Jew. That’s a genocide.

The flotilla captives were treated well, much better than the hostages taken 2 years ago today.

The demonstrations taking place today in support of Palestine are absolutely disgusting. The UK has gone down the shitter.

Muppets 100%

I haven’t see anything to suggest they are holocaust deniers, but I have seen plenty of genocide deniers on this thread and other threads.

You didn’t read how they were treated then I see.

I read it. I just didn't believe it. I'll take the opinions of Holocaust deniers and their pals with a large pinch of salt.

They never sailed in Israeli waters, they sailed in international waters and were abducted at gunpoint, illegally. Kidnapped, imprisoned and mistreated by brainwashed morons who think they have a right to take what they want and do what they want.

I read how detainees from the marches in Egypt were treated.