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Gaza Flotilla - genuine peace activists or Hamas puppets?

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TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 22:36

It has been reported that these activists have rejected the Italian government and the Vatican's proposal to unload any aid they are carrying in Cyprus, to be transferred peacefully to Gaza.

They seem intent on sailing into a legal blockade in a warzone as a direct provocation to Israel who will be forced to take control of 50 boats and the people on them.

They have made lots of unproven allegations that Israel has attacked their boats which may well be to precursor violent resistance in 'self defence'.

They could be carrying anything, including weapons.

There is quite compelling evidence of Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood connections to this so called humanitarian flotilla, which could be considered perverse in the extreme seeing as Hamas has caused the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

Hundreds of Israeli boat owners are being encouraged to counter protest in Navy approved zones (without interfering) as a presence 'a blue and white wall for the hostages'.

What do we think the outcome of this will be with Italian and Spanish Navy vessels in the mix?

This is quite a different situation than the ONE boat in the earlier failed attempt to breach the blockade this year where the 'activists' were peacefully appeased with sandwiches and sent on their way (after refusing to watch footage of Oct 7th).

Unmasking Extremism: The Hidden Networks Behind the “March to Gaza” Campaign

A campaign of so-called “peaceful solidarity” reveals disturbing ties to designated terrorist organizations.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

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Martymcfly24 · 28/09/2025 00:09

TicklishMauveSquid · 28/09/2025 00:07

Doesn't say in those articles that Israel have killed almost 1400 people waiting to get food.

I never said it did.

You can make of the evidence what you will.

Everexpanding · 28/09/2025 00:08

Yes interesting website @TicklishMauveSquid is that where all your points come from?

Martymcfly24 · 28/09/2025 00:08

Everexpanding · 28/09/2025 00:01

Pertinent clause here as Israel is deliberately starving the civilian population

One key clause is that blockades cannot be imposed with “the sole purpose of starving the civilian population.” If the blockaded territory has insufficient food, then the party imposing the blockade must enable the free passage of food and essential supplies.

I literally came on to post the same thing.

I would say considering criteria for famine have been reached in parts of the region then this negates anything Israel is saying about its legality.

BelleHathor · 28/09/2025 00:07

Everexpanding · 28/09/2025 00:04

Feel the same @Gansy 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

The thread is a desperate attempt to manufacture consent for the Israeli forces to attack the flotilla "because Hamas".

The folk on board are best of humanity ❤️

TicklishMauveSquid · 28/09/2025 00:07

Doesn't say in those articles that Israel have killed almost 1400 people waiting to get food.

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Gansy · 28/09/2025 00:06

TicklishMauveSquid · 28/09/2025 00:00

*By an Israeli rightwing lobby spin doctor collective…

TicklishMauveSquid · 28/09/2025 00:05

Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:57

No one believes this “But Hamas” spiel anymore.

But Hamas are quite a big factor is this war, are they not?

They started it and won't disarm or surrender, or release the hostages.

That's why it has been going on for 2 years.

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Everexpanding · 28/09/2025 00:04

Gansy · 28/09/2025 00:02

I’ve nothing but best wishes to that flotilla of brave and peaceful humanitarians a who are attempting to enter Gaza, providing basic food and medical subsistence to targeted civilians while standing up to a brutal Israeli and American genocide.

Godspeed the flotilla.

Feel the same @Gansy 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

Gansy · 28/09/2025 00:02

I’ve nothing but best wishes to that flotilla of brave and peaceful humanitarians a who are attempting to enter Gaza, providing basic food and medical subsistence to targeted civilians while standing up to a brutal Israeli and American genocide.

Godspeed the flotilla.

Everexpanding · 28/09/2025 00:01

Pertinent clause here as Israel is deliberately starving the civilian population

One key clause is that blockades cannot be imposed with “the sole purpose of starving the civilian population.” If the blockaded territory has insufficient food, then the party imposing the blockade must enable the free passage of food and essential supplies.

TicklishMauveSquid · 28/09/2025 00:00

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:40

How is the blockade legal?

Quite clearly explained here.

unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-6-israels-blockade-of-gaza-is-illegal

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Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:57

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:53

How does the UN know the IDF killed them all those people out of interest? What evidence do they have?

Hamas has been killing Palestinians since the war started to blame it on Israel. Especially at the the GHF sites which Palestinians were threatened with execution for using.

Do you think they didn't follow through?

No one believes this “But Hamas” spiel anymore.

TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:57

SameOldHill · 27/09/2025 23:43

Challenging the blockade means just that. Israel has threatened to detain them and block their flotilla from delivering aid and they’re trying to challenge.

They are taking a huge risk with their own personal safety. If they’re just after fame I’m sure there are easier ways to attract attention.

What’s wrong with delivering aid and why would Israel stop them? Surely the best thing would be to let them land, deliver the aid then let them leave. No drama or arrests needed.

How do you think they are going to 'challenge' if the IDF board the boats to take control of them or tells them to disembark?

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TicklishMauveSquid · 27/09/2025 23:53

Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:34

From 1st of August I am sure many more have been killed since

“In total, since 27 May, at least 1,373 Palestinians have been killed while seeking food; 859 in the vicinity of the GHF sites and 514 along the routes of food convoys.
OHCHR noted that most of the killings were committed by the Israeli military, and that while it is aware of the presence of other armed elements in the same areas, it does not have information indicating their involvement in the killings.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

How does the UN know the IDF killed them all those people out of interest? What evidence do they have?

Hamas has been killing Palestinians since the war started to blame it on Israel. Especially at the the GHF sites which Palestinians were threatened with execution for using.

Do you think they didn't follow through?

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JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 23:50

Or make pathetic jokes about the flotilla. I feel sick.

JaneJeffer · 27/09/2025 23:49

I don’t know how anyone could watch the news today and try to defend what is being done to the Palestinian people.

quantumbutterfly · 27/09/2025 23:49

On the plus side whenever I hear the futilla mentioned I picture Greta leading a rousing chorus of 'in the navy' and getting hamasniks to dance in their costumes.

Apparently she's quite the crowd pleaser.

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:49

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:43

They know full well Israel will ensure their safety.

Just like in 2010.

BelleHathor · 27/09/2025 23:47

Vittorio Arrigoni was kidnapped, tortured and murdered by an ISIS affiliated gang in Gaza (the same gangs that Netanyahu is currently funding https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-14/gaza-aid-looting-gangs-yasser-abu-shabab-israel-netanyahu-hamas/105501926 )

Prior to that he was living happily and integrated with the Palestinians in Gaza.

It appears that a Hasbara talking point has been issued as this is the 3rd time I have seen him mentioned today as some kind of propaganda gotcha on social media.

The 'uncharismatic, illiterate' criminal behind Gaza's aid-looting gangs

Violent gangs have been raiding convoys of aid as they are trucked through Gaza, and behind one of the largest groups is a criminal who has reportedly been armed and protected by Israel.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-14/gaza-aid-looting-gangs-yasser-abu-shabab-israel-netanyahu-hamas/105501926

Martymcfly24 · 27/09/2025 23:45

Everexpanding · 27/09/2025 23:34

From 1st of August I am sure many more have been killed since

“In total, since 27 May, at least 1,373 Palestinians have been killed while seeking food; 859 in the vicinity of the GHF sites and 514 along the routes of food convoys.
OHCHR noted that most of the killings were committed by the Israeli military, and that while it is aware of the presence of other armed elements in the same areas, it does not have information indicating their involvement in the killings.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

Ah @Everexpanding the guy quoted in the ops article said "there is no starvation in Gaza" so I am not sure why they were even going to aid sites, I am sure they could have just popped to the local shop.

( He also is quoted as voting against ceasefire deals..)

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:43

SameOldHill · 27/09/2025 23:43

Challenging the blockade means just that. Israel has threatened to detain them and block their flotilla from delivering aid and they’re trying to challenge.

They are taking a huge risk with their own personal safety. If they’re just after fame I’m sure there are easier ways to attract attention.

What’s wrong with delivering aid and why would Israel stop them? Surely the best thing would be to let them land, deliver the aid then let them leave. No drama or arrests needed.

They know full well Israel will ensure their safety.

SameOldHill · 27/09/2025 23:43

Uggbootsforever · 27/09/2025 23:10

What does ‘challenging the blockade’ even mean? They’ll attempt to access the Gaza coast, the Israeli military will intervene, and they’ll be returned to their native countries. End of. They’re not challenging anything, they’re just having yet another few weeks in the limelight. It’s like they can’t bear for the attention not to be on them.!

Challenging the blockade means just that. Israel has threatened to detain them and block their flotilla from delivering aid and they’re trying to challenge.

They are taking a huge risk with their own personal safety. If they’re just after fame I’m sure there are easier ways to attract attention.

What’s wrong with delivering aid and why would Israel stop them? Surely the best thing would be to let them land, deliver the aid then let them leave. No drama or arrests needed.

surprisebaby12 · 27/09/2025 23:42

Israel are committing a genocide in Gaza. Can we just retire the Hamas nonsense- they clearly have very little power and they’re very much separate from the campaigners trying to end the genocide