Israel kills pregnant aid worker and two infant children in airstrike

Some of the Israeli arm chair soldiers are not worth talking to - they are so indoctrinated they don’t want to listen to facts, just parrot misinformation and act as brainless cheerleaders for genocide. It is boring. I can’t wait for the war crime charges to drop and these war criminals to go to their promised prison cells!

Wow, that’s a lot of projection. I’ve literally condemned Hamas repeatedly. Pointing out that Israel is wiping out families, starving civilians, and killing tens of thousands of children doesn’t cancel out that condemnation. Maybe try reading the thread before accusing others of ‘making excuses’. It’s almost impressive how quickly some people twist reality to avoid holding the obvious perpetrators accountable.

You denied there were war crimes on October 7th and have described it as ridiculous that Hamas should have to end the war. Not much accountability for them. No wonder they aren't paying any attention to global pressure when they have so many people ready to make excuses for them. I am not sure if people sympathise with terrorists or if its' racism, that they just can't be expected to do any better.

Even in the pro-Palestinian marches where you'd think every participant would support Palestinians they are strangely silent on what Hamas is doing to them. Not a single critical placard. Although that's not strictly true. I did see a video a while back of someone holding an anti-Hamas placard and the pro-Palestinians attacked him! It was on NewsNowYorkshire's YouTube channel

The classic ‘Hamas are the only problem, so ignore everything else’ line.

I’ve literally said multiple times that Hamas committed horrific crimes. Pointing out that Israel is deliberately bombing cities, starving civilians, and killing tens of thousands of children doesn’t erase that fact. Condemning one side’s crimes doesn’t magically absolve the other. But thanks for explaining again that you prefer moral arithmetic over actual accountability.

she was my age 💔 whole families are being wiped out and destroyed in israel’s genocide. i agree with PP, we need to have italian style protests

There are a lot of child civilian casualties, which is to be expected when Hamas hides in schools and civilian shelters. In no other war has a supposed government deliberately used their own people as human shields on a scale such as this

If it doesn't absolve Hamas of their crimes, why are you so strangely silent? Where are your posts criticising Hamas? Instead of criticising people who are rightly condemning Hamas for not ending the war, why aren't you also condemning them?

Hamas isn't paying any attention to global pressure because they're a power hungry death cult openly willing to martyr their entire population. That is what Israel is dealing with and what it has to protect it's citizens from

Only one side is systematically levelling cities, starving civilians, and killing tens of thousands of children. Pointing out Israel’s deliberate actions doesn’t absolve Hamas of their crimes. It just calls out the scale and intentionality of the devastation. Global pressure on Hamas is ongoing, but it doesn’t justify Israel’s own breaches of international law or the mass killing of children. Accountability isn’t a zero-sum game.

Hamas aren't the victims, and if protecting children is non-negotiable under international law, where is the condemnation and global pressure on Hamas for openly using civilians as human shields? Where is your condemnation and pressure on Hamas to stop putting children at risk? And why stop there, where's the pressure on Hamas to stop the war? They have agency, or is this the racism of low expectations again?

It gets worse everyday!!

Funny how the same logic never seems to apply to Israel. Tens of thousands of children are being killed right now- not as a result of Hamas, but as a direct result of Israel’s attacks. No hostage-taking, no terror attacks, just civilians, including infants and toddlers. Protecting children is non-negotiable under international law. Blaming the victims for not ending the war themselves is absurd.

I guess you don't

'This article analyses the October 7th 2023 Hamas attack on Israel through the lens of the Genocide Convention, arguing that these actions constitute genocide under international law. Drawing on international case law, the analysis demonstrates how Hamas’ actions meet both the physical element and specific intent requirements for genocide, evidenced by its ideology, systematic policies and leadership statements. The article also examines how reverse accusations of genocide against Israel have functioned as a rhetorical shield to deflect recognition of Hamas’ own genocidal actions. It analyses the legal implications for state parties and the international community.'

And it's Hamas that is causing it

October 7th was horrific, but not a war crime under international law. I assume you don’t spend much time reading or working in law?

If it's so awful tell Hamas to free the hostages and end the war.

This isn’t abstract maths- Gaza is losing thousands of children right now, one of the highest child death tolls in any conflict in recent decades, and it’s the Israel military causing it.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/5383956-one-child-a-day-remembering-gazas-children?page=1

Who are you talking to and who is constantly equating the support for Palestine to everyone hating Jewish people?

What was October 7th and holding on to hostages?

If they are it will come out in the wash, I am certainly not going to take an opinion by a clearly biased commentator on the internet as an indisputable fact.

What I have a problem with is you constantly equating the support for Palestine is because everyone hates Jewish people. And you pop up on threads to say this yet again and again. People support the poor Palestinian people because they are stuck in a rock and a hard place, have had no control over their own country and boarders, and have been consistently bombed, displaced, dehydrated and starved for the past two years. It has NOTHING to do with people hating Jews.

The only real solution to this is to obliterate both Israel and Palestine so no one can live there. But that won’t happen so perpetual war is the likely future.

I agree with you. He is sending out a very clear message that after decades of Palestinians taking Israelis as hostages and using them as bargaining chips they can no longer get away with it. It ends now.

That doesn’t excuse war crimes and it’s not going to save Netanyahu.

They’re committing war crimes.

Did the Gazans vote Hamas into power or not? Is Hamas the government of Gaza or not?

None of your excuses take away from the fact that Hamas were voted into power by the Palestinians in Gaza and are currently the government of Gaza. They lead Gaza and they started the war

Targeting aid workers has no military advantage

Israel targets aid workers and HCPs because when you're trying to exterminate a group of people, those who work keeping them alive are the enemy. It is illegal and a war crime.

What do you think Israel should have done then after October 7? Ignored it? It was a deliberate act of aggression. Hamas started this conflict, not Israel.