Israel has killed one child every hour

Last time I checked we couldn’t kill an entire people pre-emptively for crimes we think they might possibly commit ????

maybe Israel could stop committing war crimes, dispossessing, displacing, killing, bombing, starving, and orphaning thousands of Palestinians which they have been doing for decades. Maybe then the Israeli state could work towards peace, maybe then they would not be almost universally loathed

I am not Palestinian and actually am a pacifist but I think no punishment in this world is big enough for Netanyahu and the current Israeli government maybe you should preemptively kill me too??

So when a country such as Palestine specifically states that is what they want to do to Isreal and they have no intention of stopping things like Oct7, what is Isreal meant to do?

This is what bugs me so much about the useful idiots, they yammer on about compassion and empathy but don't offer ANY SOLUTIONS!! If they had an idea I could at least give them the time of day....

You know dehumanisation is the first step towards genocide:
to quote you:

”Empathy isn't even a term that hamas or most Palestinians even know.”

Shame on you

people are not as you say “useful idiots” for having sympathy for fellow humans, mothers and children just like ours who are being bombed and starved by Israel

No child deserves to die necessarily. However, something that people seem totally unaware of sitting in their cushty armchairs with endless cheap luxuries around so they'd never have to worry, is that war is brutal! There is no moral equivalence, and proportionality of number of deaths means nothing. Britain wiped Dresden and Berlin off the map in WW2 causing way more death and destruction that Isreal have, yet it's hard to find anyone who would claim it wasn't a 'just' war.

There were many posters who were Palestinian or who had links to Palestine with Palestinian friends and family who also stopped posting because of some of the vile hate speech against Palestinians on this board.

I said it’s vanishingly rare to get a Jewish person posting on these threads. There was one who posted a bit from Israel but she was given no consideration by the pro Palestinian brigade for being brave to post about her personal situation, so doesn’t post much. She may have left MN.

How do I know the religious beliefs of most people posting in support of Israel? Because they have mentioned them at one time or another and I pay attention. We are quite a small group on here and use the same usernames across multiple threads so you get to know people a bit, almost like a community.

I don’t know the beliefs or background of most pro Pals on here as they either don’t mention them or the group is too large for me to remember them all. I know some are Irish and some are Muslim. They seem to be the largest two categories as far as I can tell.

She said a Jewish person not a supporter of Israel. There used to be many (they told us, how else would we know?). They left.

Noone is saying any of those things. They are in your head. As for @Twiglets1 being antisemitic. Please.

I'm not getting into an argument about this. If a person called it genocide in the first few months their motivation was clear.

It’s hardly vanishingly rare to find a supporter of Israel- the same posters flood every thread again and again.
How do you know the religious beliefs of those posting here? How do you know how many people on this thread are Jewish? How do you know whether I am or not?
Stop equating Judaism with support for the Israeli government and support for genocide. Stop implying that all British Jews are afraid of criticism of Israel.
Saying that Israel = Judaism and Judaism = Israel. That in itself is antisemitic

Keir Starmer said that Israel ‘did have the right’ to cut vital life saving utilities to Gaza. Such acts from Israel signified a mass punishment signalling a genocidal intent. It was clear from what Israeli politicians said in the earliest days that there was genocidal intent.
It was absolutely crystal clear that this was heading for a genocide after not much time had passed at all.
it was also obvious that the UK would be complicit and no one would stop it.

I wasn't here them either but people here have commented on how awful it was.

No wonder it’s vanishingly rare to get a Jewish person posting on these threads. It must have been heart breaking for them to see the antisemitism expressed on Mumsnet even in the wake of their citizens being murdered, tortured & raped.

I hope people feel proud who have driven away all the Jewish members of MN from this board. They may think they’ve won but they haven’t 🇮🇱

I wasn’t on these threads at the time but don’t believe for a minute it was as described.

I can believe people on the pro Israel side were more upset and emotional than the way we tend to post today, which is generally calmly and often to address misinformation.

Im glad I wasn’t on these threads then. I would have been disgusted by people rushing to make excuses for 7/10 right after it happened and with zero sympathy for Israel.

Well exactly. Anyone calling Israel's entirely legitimate response to Hamas's 7 October attack 'genocide' in the early months of the war (regardless of what you think about how the war has developed) was clearly wrong and had only one motivation, which was to demonise Israel.

God forbid people might be sensitive to the feelings of people who had just witnessed the worst attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust. Israelis (we used to have some that posted here) and British Jews were in deep shock.

I don’t think you could walk on eggshells if you tried, tbh

I remember how posters rushed to MN to make excuses for Oct 7. I remember the lack of empathy immediately after a brutal massacre of civilians. I remember a lot of posts being deleted for absolutely blatant antisemitism.

Emotions were high and people were upset, yes, but for the benefit of anyone reading today who wasn’t on the board at the time, it really wasnt as you describe.

So you were calling it a genocide in the early days … interesting.

No wonder posts got deleted for saying that shortly after 7/10.

But I’ve been posting on here quite a long time now and have never seen anyone say a child deserves to die as would have grown up to be a terrorist anyway. So it’s hardly people “falling over themselves” to say it. Maybe someone said it or implied it ages ago and you’re still going on about it like those currently debating the war on MN are culpable.

Sorry @BelleHathor that people had to “walk on eggshells” in the aftermath of 7/10. I guess anyone with a connection to Israel or empathy for Israel was feeling a little sensitive.

100%! I completely remember those dark days, people had to literally walk on eggshells..... 💐for all those that had to see the dehumanisation and pushed back wherever they may be today ❤️

No it really did. It was in the savage early days of this conflict where you would be deleted here for calling it genocide because it hurt some people's feelings but you could shit on Palestinians all you want. The thread about the poor babies left to die in incubators was another doozy.

Maybe Palestinians are a bit busy starving or trying to relocate their entire families while Israel plays some warped and cruel game of Simon says or maybe trying to pull their children from the rubble of civilian homes that Israelis have bombed to try and as you put it “ rise up”
Blaming victims of a genocide for their own fate is truly revolting

Your vivid imagination is also notable.

Starving children? 20 000 dead children? This is a thread about them, not the hostages.
By posting about the hostages you seem to be implying that there is a justification for the murder of 20 000 children. I don’t think so.