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SisterTeatime · 30/09/2025 16:44

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 14:15

Out of interest, wouldn’t it all still be there on Mumsnet CITME board to read?

The CITME board didn’t exist at the time, but yes, you could probably find the threads if you looked.

There were many, many deletions for antisemitism, and for what were probably deemed personal attacks, I remember being deleted for calling another poster a ghoul, for example. I remember being very upset at the speed and level at which the antisemitism and rape denial appeared all over MN after Oct 7.

Twiglets1 · 30/09/2025 16:33

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:30

You? You can keep on mocking those who care I guess, you seem to enjoy it

Happy there's a peace plan @Everexpanding ?

Imagine if the war could actually stop in the next few days, wouldn't that be amazing?

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 16:18

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 14:36

Yes, people have not infrequently come on a thread to say Hamas started a war, war is inevitably terrible, there will always be collateral deaths.

As here,

Alicealig · Today 16:00
You can't start a war and then say, "oh sorry, too many of our people are dying now, we don't want to surrender but can you stop please"

Alicealig · 30/09/2025 16:00

You can't start a war and then say, "oh sorry, too many of our people are dying now, we don't want to surrender but can you stop please"

The planet you people live on is surreal. Completely unable to think as if you're in someone elses shoes. It's just "oh it must be so awful to be this one or that one". Yes it must but for fucks sake think with a morsel of complexity as to what mores going on here.

Alicealig · 30/09/2025 15:54

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Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 15:11

I don’t think Hamas run companies are sponsored by reebok????

TwistyTurnip · 30/09/2025 15:05

Didntask · 10/09/2025 19:54

I've only skim read the link, but there doesn't seem to be any mention of Hamas at all... why is that?

Exactly

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 14:36

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:49

Hyperbole !?? Shocking figures true but not hyperbole, fact and probably grossly underestimated fact

Which is why more companies and brands are scrambling to distance themselves from the Israeli genocide.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reebok-said-to-ask-israels-national-soccer-team-to-take-company-logo-off-uniforms/

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 14:36

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 14:01

It isn't hyperbole. There's many people who have openly and more often 'indirectly' justified and minimised the deaths of thousands of innocent Palestinians.

Yes, people have not infrequently come on a thread to say Hamas started a war, war is inevitably terrible, there will always be collateral deaths.

ScrollingLeaves · 30/09/2025 14:15

SisterTeatime · 25/09/2025 06:42

I don’t think you could walk on eggshells if you tried, tbh

I remember how posters rushed to MN to make excuses for Oct 7. I remember the lack of empathy immediately after a brutal massacre of civilians. I remember a lot of posts being deleted for absolutely blatant antisemitism.

Emotions were high and people were upset, yes, but for the benefit of anyone reading today who wasn’t on the board at the time, it really wasnt as you describe.

Out of interest, wouldn’t it all still be there on Mumsnet CITME board to read?

Lunalara · 30/09/2025 14:08

People were saying that 5,000 or so deaths was nothing, now that number is up to 50,000 +. Only a matter of time before it gets to 100k plus. It is probably much higher than 50k deaths anyway as Palestine is completely ruined in all areas of life.

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 14:01

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 13:46

Oh stop it. Noone supports the deaths of innocent people. Your hyperbole is not as effective a strategy as you seem to think it is.

It isn't hyperbole. There's many people who have openly and more often 'indirectly' justified and minimised the deaths of thousands of innocent Palestinians.

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:49

Hyperbole !?? Shocking figures true but not hyperbole, fact and probably grossly underestimated fact

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 13:46

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:43

Can you acknowledge the death of 55,900 innocent Palestinians? Or do they not count?

Oh stop it. Noone supports the deaths of innocent people. Your hyperbole is not as effective a strategy as you seem to think it is.

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:43

Gloriia · 30/09/2025 13:39

'because I don’t support the killing of innocent civilians'

None of us do. Oct 7th was absolutely horrific.

Let's see if the peace deal develops. The terrorists I've read are considering the deal 'in good faith' <as if they've any good faith>. What they mean is they are awaiting to hear from their Qatari paymasters to give them orders.

Can you acknowledge the death of 55,900 innocent Palestinians? Or do they not count?

Gloriia · 30/09/2025 13:39

'because I don’t support the killing of innocent civilians'

None of us do. Oct 7th was absolutely horrific.

Let's see if the peace deal develops. The terrorists I've read are considering the deal 'in good faith' <as if they've any good faith>. What they mean is they are awaiting to hear from their Qatari paymasters to give them orders.

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 13:38

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:30

I’ll just keep boycotting Israel @SharonEllis
using the No Thanks app because I don’t support the killing of innocent civilians, the orphaning of children, illegal detention, killing of health care workers and journalists, land theft and genocide ,

Me too.

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 13:37

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 13:15

The marches I have gone on for the hostages have been very powerful and moving and I think given strength to those related to hostages. But I was more referring to the anti-Israel marches which people on MN have told us many times are very effective.

How revealing that you are speaking in jest regarding the marches protesting against a genocide. I don't see anyone on these threads mocking marches for the hostages or against anti-semitism.

Double standards are rife on these threads.

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:30

You? You can keep on mocking those who care I guess, you seem to enjoy it

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 13:30

I’ll just keep boycotting Israel @SharonEllis
using the No Thanks app because I don’t support the killing of innocent civilians, the orphaning of children, illegal detention, killing of health care workers and journalists, land theft and genocide ,

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 13:15

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 13:11

Is this supposed to be sarcastic?

Which marches do you attend that you have thought were very effective?

The marches I have gone on for the hostages have been very powerful and moving and I think given strength to those related to hostages. But I was more referring to the anti-Israel marches which people on MN have told us many times are very effective.

Kakeandkake · 30/09/2025 13:11

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 12:43

Apparently they are very effective.

Is this supposed to be sarcastic?

Which marches do you attend that you have thought were very effective?

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 12:43

anothercortisolqueen · 30/09/2025 12:41

I’m assuming that your ‘organise a march or something comment’ is a joke?

Apparently they are very effective.

anothercortisolqueen · 30/09/2025 12:41

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 12:40

If there is someone out there killing an 'entire people' I really think you should organise a march or something.

I’m assuming that your ‘organise a march or something comment’ is a joke?

SharonEllis · 30/09/2025 12:40

Everexpanding · 30/09/2025 12:16

Last time I checked we couldn’t kill an entire people pre-emptively for crimes we think they might possibly commit ????

maybe Israel could stop committing war crimes, dispossessing, displacing, killing, bombing, starving, and orphaning thousands of Palestinians which they have been doing for decades. Maybe then the Israeli state could work towards peace, maybe then they would not be almost universally loathed

I am not Palestinian and actually am a pacifist but I think no punishment in this world is big enough for Netanyahu and the current Israeli government maybe you should preemptively kill me too??

If there is someone out there killing an 'entire people' I really think you should organise a march or something.