More dead terrorists - nowhere to hide

I think Hamas leaders will be getting the message now that they aren’t safe wherever they live & no amount of money can change that. American security in exchange for surrender is probably the best option they have of staying alive.

I wouldn’t bet money on it though.

And you think that anyone will trust Israel and the US? Asking people to ceasefire talks and then blowing them up doesn't tend to foster trust. I saw Trump talking last week I think it was and he said something along the lines of release the hostages then we will kill you and it will all be over and I just thought what kind of idiots are running this show? Then there are the open plans to turn Gaza into some kind of rich persons playground, the talk of annexing four fifths of the West Bank. these are plans for the end of Palestine forever.

If you can with a straight face say that Israel and the US have been working towards peace you are a better liar than I am.

Hamas leaders have been preventing peace not working towards it since forever. There will be someone left on the Hamas side who can agree a ceasefire and the only language they seem to understand is self interest. So they will be more likely to agree a deal if they feel they need the US to guarantee their personal safety.

This. Who knew Bin Laden had to be in a cave in Afghanistan before the US were allowed to kill him.

Who gives a shit where these terrorists hide.

Good on Israel for finding them and wiping them out.

I don’t think Osama Bin Laden was there for ceasefire talks

It makes more sense (to me) to attack the leadership of Hamas rather than ordinary people. They are the ones making the decisions, commanding the theft of aid so the people suffer further. I think they are happy to let people starve/ die to further the cause.

I do wonder about retaliation from Qatar. Will what’s left of Hamas’ top echelons stay of regroup somewhere else?

The Netflix documentary American Manhunt: Osama Bin Laden is interesting to watch for how President Obama and his security staff went after their enemy in hiding with no shits given re Pakistani sovereignty or anything else.

Don't remember mass protests about that at the time? Nearly everyone in the West considered it a cause for celebration to rid the world of this evil extremist.

Of course people are outraged when Israel do a similar thing re Hamas leaders in Doha.

Posted in another thread but seems equally relevant here. The Times of Israel are reporting today that Israel are "increasingly optimistic" about the results of the strike.

Despite claiming that Israel had failed in the operation, Hamas offered no immediate proof that its top leaders had survived. The terror group has been known in the past to only confirm the death of its leaders weeks or months after the fact.

Most of Hamas’s leadership in Gaza has been killed during the past two years of war with Israel, but until now, its political leadership abroad has been mostly untouched. Notable exceptions were former politburo chief Ismail Haniyeh, who was assassinated on a visit to Iran, and his former deputy Saleh al-Arouri, who was killed in Beirut, both in 2024.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-strikes-hamas-chiefs-in-qatar-terror-group-insists-senior-leaders-unharmed/

Do they really apply to both Hamas and Israel?
That hideous day in October was a Hamas attack and was against international law. Israel responded against the attack which is not against international law..
Nothing since is as clear cut, I suppose.

They do.

Qatar are always going to be for their fellow countrymen, unless they are Palestinian. They can tell the western leaders what they want to hear. In fact its not actually their countrymen they look after but an ideology.

In what way?

@pinkbobby you really do underestimate the power and unity of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I'm not in their position, thank goodness, so it's not for me to say. I would have thought their hearts and minds have been through so many different phases, that they are numb.

I also think your last statement needs amending - the sooner politicians of all stripes begin to care for all people in a genuine and helpful manner, the sooner the killing will stop. A pretty huge issue in this conflict is each side dehumanising the other. It’s not just about protecting your own - really, that’s how this all started and it’s how it will all continue.

@Dangermoos parents of hostages aren't happy about this attack. What are your thoughts on that?

You're wrong. The Israeli government and it's puppet army are proof of that.

Does anyone know why Hamas leadership are in Qatar? I’ll give you a clue, America were involved and asked Qatar to. This ain’t some axis of evil argument - it’s actually quite interesting looking at all the negotiations Qatar has been involved in. They have quite a reputation. I’m afraid it doesn’t just involve terrorists either - that might disappoint some people who had decided on a certain narrative.

Like others have said, the implications of this are horrendous. Anyone can bomb anywhere if they can claim there’s an enemy there - imagine if that starts happening in the UK. How much collateral damage should we be happy with because another leader believes there’s some sort of imminent threat. Then, there’s the poor hostages who have had their chances of a ceasefire release taken. There’s the US air base in Qatar - what happens to the people based there right now if Trump says he knew all about this? This is a dangerous moment for the region and for global politics more broadly.

I feel for the hostages and their families though. Certain now that no return will take place unless Israel can be bypassed in any negotiations.

I don't think anyone is mourning terrorists - just questioning methods and implications of such.

the cowardly hamas leadership have hidden themselves away while the palastinian people die in gaza.
qatar obviously know they are harboring these men and know they are potential targets and choose to let their citizens live at risk in exchange for?? somewhere money is involved.
really this shows that no matter where you are on this planet (and equally off the planet) people (governments or otherwise) can and will find you.
the sooner politicians of all stripes begin to care for their populace in a genuine and helpful manner the sooner the killing (of legitimate targets) will stop.

You don’t think Russia or China have broken international Law? 😂

You think Qatar is neutral and wants peace for Palestinians? Very naive.

You've got to be some kind of sick to mourn for the loss of terrorists. Good riddance @mids2019 job well done.