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Hamas discussing US 'ideas' for Gaza ceasefire after Trump's 'last warning'

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Twiglets1 · 09/09/2025 05:16

BBC article reporting that on Sunday evening, Hamas put out a statement saying it had "received through the mediators some ideas from the American side aimed at reaching a ceasefire agreement" and that it welcomed the initiative.

"The movement is in constant contact with the intermediaries to develop these ideas into a comprehensive agreement that meets the needs of our people," it added.

Earlier in the day, US President Donald Trump had written on Truth Social: "Everyone wants the Hostages HOME. Everyone wants this War to end! The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well."

"I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!"

A senior Palestinian official familiar with the ceasefire efforts told the BBC that under the US proposal, all of the hostages would be released within the first 48 hours of a 60-day truce in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, including those serving life sentences and other lengthy terms, and detainees from Gaza.

During the first two weeks of the truce, the negotiations would cover key issues, including Hamas's disarmament, the formation of an independent governing body or administrative committee in Gaza, and arrangements for Israeli troop withdrawals, the official said. Humanitarian aid would also flow openly into Gaza.

The framework appeared to be aimed at creating a pathway to a broader settlement while addressing immediate humanitarian and security concerns.

Israeli media quoted political sources as saying that Israel was "seriously considering" the US plan, but also that Hamas was likely to have difficulty accepting it.

On Monday, Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar told a news conference in Budapest: "President Trump said it clearly yesterday, Israel said yes to his proposal. We are ready to accept a full deal that would end the war based on the cabinet's decision.

"Two things must happen. One, the return of our hostages… [Two], Hamas must lay down its arms."

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0rxl7jwwpo

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Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:51

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:48

Genocide doesn’t have to happen in a day. In fact, it would be stupid to do it that way because you’d lose all respect on the international stage. Pretty sure with would tank you economy and destroy your reputation. If you’re smart, you quickly tone down the genocidal rhetoric (esp after a genocide case is brought against you) and you do just enough to make intent a challenge to prove. You still starve people, militarise aid, wipe out most of the infrastructure in Gaza so people have no homes/hospitals/safety. It’s not nuking Gaza as one Israeli politician suggested but it isn’t showing any humanity to innocent people. Hence why the ICJ spelled out that Israel need to feed Gazans and do more to ensure their safety.

And even if this isn’t found to be genocide legally, is what’s going on okay in your eyes? If the use of the word genocide upsets you, fine. But it shouldn’t upset you more than what’s happening in Gaza. Would ethnic cleansing be a less triggering word? Or crimes against humanity? Or war crimes?

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Well said!

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:48

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 16:37

Ah, so that's why he didn't orchestrate instant genocide, because he wanted to prolong the war. Refreshing to see final acknowledgement of a war taking place.

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Genocide doesn’t have to happen in a day. In fact, it would be stupid to do it that way because you’d lose all respect on the international stage. Pretty sure with would tank you economy and destroy your reputation. If you’re smart, you quickly tone down the genocidal rhetoric (esp after a genocide case is brought against you) and you do just enough to make intent a challenge to prove. You still starve people, militarise aid, wipe out most of the infrastructure in Gaza so people have no homes/hospitals/safety. It’s not nuking Gaza as one Israeli politician suggested but it isn’t showing any humanity to innocent people. Hence why the ICJ spelled out that Israel need to feed Gazans and do more to ensure their safety.

And even if this isn’t found to be genocide legally, is what’s going on okay in your eyes? If the use of the word genocide upsets you, fine. But it shouldn’t upset you more than what’s happening in Gaza. Would ethnic cleansing be a less triggering word? Or crimes against humanity? Or war crimes?

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:43

MissyB1 · 09/09/2025 16:40

Sadly I don’t think he’s gives a shit about the hostages or their families, he only cares about himself.

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Couldn't agree more. He prefers bloodshed over peace.

MissyB1 · 09/09/2025 16:40

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:24

Netanyahu really doesn't care. Whatever will prolong the war and keep him in power - he will do.

The hostages families must be fuming right now.

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Sadly I don’t think he’s gives a shit about the hostages or their families, he only cares about himself.

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:40

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:24

Netanyahu really doesn't care. Whatever will prolong the war and keep him in power - he will do.

The hostages families must be fuming right now.

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I cannot even imagine. After the video of the two men last week and now this. Just horrendous.

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 16:37

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:24

Netanyahu really doesn't care. Whatever will prolong the war and keep him in power - he will do.

The hostages families must be fuming right now.

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Ah, so that's why he didn't orchestrate instant genocide, because he wanted to prolong the war. Refreshing to see final acknowledgement of a war taking place.

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:24

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:17

Yes - but it’s so inflammatory. I understand the want to target Hamas and to throw off ceasefire negotiations but this seems like an unbelievably dangerous move in terms of increasing the threat to Israel.

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Netanyahu really doesn't care. Whatever will prolong the war and keep him in power - he will do.

The hostages families must be fuming right now.

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:17

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:15

It's Netanyahu's signature act. Whenever there is a possibility of a ceasefire, he does whatever he can to sabotage it.

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Yes - but it’s so inflammatory. I understand the want to target Hamas and to throw off ceasefire negotiations but this seems like an unbelievably dangerous move in terms of increasing the threat to Israel.

Kakeandkake · 09/09/2025 16:15

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:02

I fear the Doha bombing might mean this doesn’t happen. I’m not looking to start an Israel pile on but bombing negotiations in Doha seems really rogue if they were pushing for some sort of agreement. And for their relationship with Qatar more broadly.

It's Netanyahu's signature act. Whenever there is a possibility of a ceasefire, he does whatever he can to sabotage it.

PinkBobby · 09/09/2025 16:02

I fear the Doha bombing might mean this doesn’t happen. I’m not looking to start an Israel pile on but bombing negotiations in Doha seems really rogue if they were pushing for some sort of agreement. And for their relationship with Qatar more broadly.

TreesTreesBeesBees · 09/09/2025 09:31

Probably delusional of me to hope terrorists might lay down arms for the people, the children, their wives and family.

TreesTreesBeesBees · 09/09/2025 09:30

I hope this agreement works. Hostages home. Hamas disbanded

Dangermoos · 09/09/2025 09:09

No chance Hamas will agree to that, regardless of their otherwise posturing.