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The struggle to get food in Gaza

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IGaveSoManySigns · 06/09/2025 08:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d3d76a1d-f320-4047-8a57-cc6f567f08c0

This article is horrifying. £150 for a 25kg bag of flour. They don’t have access to fresh vegetables. No water. No cash, no food. This is disgraceful.

Video diary: The struggle for one meal in Gaza - BBC News

As warnings about starvation escalate, 20-year-old Mosab al-Trtori shares videos of his daily struggle to find food, water and fuel in Gaza.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d3d76a1d-f320-4047-8a57-cc6f567f08c0

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PrawnAgain · 08/09/2025 09:15

SharonEllis · 08/09/2025 06:00

You told me to look at the entire board to find something to prove YOUR point. Its you who can't be arsed to prove it.

Of course I can't be bothered to go through the board and collate everywhere this happens, complete with notes on context for you.
If you post regularly you would also have seen if but if haven't then take a look.

This isn't a court of law it's a chat forum. I'm not required to build a case to provide proof for you.

Twiglets1 · 08/09/2025 07:11

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:38

You sound like my 9 year old niece 😂

I told you where to look, if can't be arsed then that's up to you.

You haven't proven your point because you know that no one on these boards is saying Israel do no wrong.

The people who support Israel on these boards can see a lot wrong with how they have behaved. For myself, I will say they shouldn't have blocked humanitarian aid for as long as they did, shouldn't allow Settlers in the West Bank and should have built many more aid distribution centres throughout the whole of Gaza, not just the 3 or 4 currently operating via the GHF.

There are more criticisms I could list against Netanyahu and the more extreme ministers in his government.

And yet ... at the end of the day I still support Israel being at war with Hamas and pursing their goal to destroy Hamas. It is inconceivable to me that anyone could reasonably have expected that they could have allowed Hamas to remain in Gaza after the 7/10 massacre and kidnappings.

Hamas need to surrender, return the hostages, disarm and leave Gaza. They bring nothing but misery to the people of Gaza as well as to Israel.

SharonEllis · 08/09/2025 06:00

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:38

You sound like my 9 year old niece 😂

I told you where to look, if can't be arsed then that's up to you.

You told me to look at the entire board to find something to prove YOUR point. Its you who can't be arsed to prove it.

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:38

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 19:28

So you havent got anything. Ok, thanks.

You sound like my 9 year old niece 😂

I told you where to look, if can't be arsed then that's up to you.

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 19:28

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:26

Read any thread condemning Israel.
Posters reply with but Hamas did X as if that somehow makes Isreal's actions OK.

So you havent got anything. Ok, thanks.

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:26

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 19:18

Please give me an example of someone saying Israel is automatically good because Hamas is bad.

Read any thread condemning Israel.
Posters reply with but Hamas did X as if that somehow makes Isreal's actions OK.

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 19:18

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:13

I have never come across anyone here or anywhere else who thinks that because Hamas is evil that makes Israel automatically good.

I think we must be reading a different forum then. To be fair, I have also seen a (very small) amount of people saying that the 7th October attack was justified because of the treatment of the Palestinian people by Israel.

Please give me an example of someone saying Israel is automatically good because Hamas is bad.

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 19:13

I have never come across anyone here or anywhere else who thinks that because Hamas is evil that makes Israel automatically good.

I think we must be reading a different forum then. To be fair, I have also seen a (very small) amount of people saying that the 7th October attack was justified because of the treatment of the Palestinian people by Israel.

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 18:35

Leoari · 07/09/2025 18:19

So on social media there looks like there's 2 new cafes that have opened in Gaza this week - a Nutella one and one called vanilla. They look really nice and have lots of nice food. And also lots of pictures from Gazans social media showing fully stocked street markets? Are Hamas preventing people to getting to these areas?

Yes I saw that. How can we verify such footage?

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 18:33

MissyB1 · 07/09/2025 18:26

No many people don’t get it at all! As evidenced by all the “Israel are not starving anyone, Hamas took the food!” Or “IDF don’t sniper shoot the kids queuing for food it’s Hamas!” Or “the hospitals have to be bombed by the IDF because they are full of Hamas” etc.. etc.. Israel do no wrong it’s all Hamas blah blah blah!!

We read those comments all the time, don’t pretend you don’t see it. And don’t try to distract by being the spelling police, it’s not very clever.

None of your examples prove your point. I have never come across anyone here or anywhere else who thinks that because Hamas is evil that makes Israel automatically good. Though I am often accused of it I do not think, and have never said, Israel can do no wrong. Quite the opposite. The expectation that Israel should do no wrong is an example of the way anti-Israel posters hold Israel to impossibly high standards.

I think its more a reflection of your black and white thinking to think that others think in those sort of binary terms. Most of the supppsedly 'pro-Israel' posters on here are capable of quite a lot of nuance. Though interestingly we are often explicitly criticised for suggesting that a bit of nuance might be a good idea.

MissyB1 · 07/09/2025 18:26

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 17:24

Literally everybody gets it. I can assure you it is not a complicated concept.

I would like to understand why people who are anti Israel spell it Isreal. @PrawnAgain can you explain?

No many people don’t get it at all! As evidenced by all the “Israel are not starving anyone, Hamas took the food!” Or “IDF don’t sniper shoot the kids queuing for food it’s Hamas!” Or “the hospitals have to be bombed by the IDF because they are full of Hamas” etc.. etc.. Israel do no wrong it’s all Hamas blah blah blah!!

We read those comments all the time, don’t pretend you don’t see it. And don’t try to distract by being the spelling police, it’s not very clever.

Leoari · 07/09/2025 18:19

So on social media there looks like there's 2 new cafes that have opened in Gaza this week - a Nutella one and one called vanilla. They look really nice and have lots of nice food. And also lots of pictures from Gazans social media showing fully stocked street markets? Are Hamas preventing people to getting to these areas?

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 17:47

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 17:31

It was just a typo in this case.

I'm not anti Israel. I'm anti genocide and anti systematic oppression of groups of people.

If you think being against those things makes me anti-Israel then what does that say?

Ok, maybe someone else who does it will explain one day.

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 17:31

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 17:24

Literally everybody gets it. I can assure you it is not a complicated concept.

I would like to understand why people who are anti Israel spell it Isreal. @PrawnAgain can you explain?

It was just a typo in this case.

I'm not anti Israel. I'm anti genocide and anti systematic oppression of groups of people.

If you think being against those things makes me anti-Israel then what does that say?

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 17:24

MissyB1 · 07/09/2025 12:56

This needs repeating over and over, because it’s amazing how many people don’t get it!

Literally everybody gets it. I can assure you it is not a complicated concept.

I would like to understand why people who are anti Israel spell it Isreal. @PrawnAgain can you explain?

MissyB1 · 07/09/2025 12:56

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 11:38

Hamas being bad doesn't make Isreal good ...

This needs repeating over and over, because it’s amazing how many people don’t get it!

PrawnAgain · 07/09/2025 11:38

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 06/09/2025 15:33

And yet the Hamas leadership looks to be in remarkably good health. Funny that.

Hamas being bad doesn't make Isreal good ...

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 09:00

SummerFeverVenice · 06/09/2025 17:04

Probably, but begs the question as to why Gaza city is being targeted with a complete siege of no food, water, medicine and now a ground assault with tanks as another “stronghold of Hamas” when its leaders aren’t even in Gaza?

Because the whole of Hamas, and its infrastructure and military capability has to be defeated, not just the most senior leaders.

KateMiskin · 07/09/2025 08:02

Palestinian children have been completely dehumanised. No longer seen as human. I hope this vile genocide is seen as one in years to come, when the world is less indoctrinated. Of course too late for these children.

allusernamesaretakennow · 07/09/2025 07:58

The people selling in the street markets of Gaza are benefiting/profiteering from the misery of others.

allusernamesaretakennow · 07/09/2025 07:55

IGaveSoManySigns · 06/09/2025 08:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d3d76a1d-f320-4047-8a57-cc6f567f08c0

This article is horrifying. £150 for a 25kg bag of flour. They don’t have access to fresh vegetables. No water. No cash, no food. This is disgraceful.

Who charged 150 for one bag of food? Who's profiteering in Gaza whilst people need food...other Palestinian people. Free aid should be available to him, he shouldn't have to buy free aid from other Palestinians or Hamas.

KoalaKoKo · 06/09/2025 18:20

Unfortunately a large percentage of people in Israel think there are no innocent people in Gaza and as such have no sympathy. A recent poll there showed a majority agreed with the statement that there are no innocent people in Gaza.

There have been a few anti war Israelis who have spoken out recently about being indoctrinated at an early age and how they were told about the horrors of the holocaust and the issues with Palestine in the same breath so they think they are taught from a young age that Palestinians are the enemy and as bad as nazis. It is shocking - add in the mandatory military service and you have a population indoctrinated into an “us against them” mentality. Many believe it is necessary to erase the population for their own protection. A few of the pro Israel posters here have said they are Israeli based, they have grown up in a society where one group is seen as less than - some will never see the Palestinian children the same way they see Israeli children.

MissyB1 · 06/09/2025 18:00

IGaveSoManySigns · 06/09/2025 17:54

It’s actually impossible for some people to have sympathy. Nobody apportions blame in this article, but still some just.

They don’t have sympathy because sadly they agree with starving the population. People who defend or deny or deflect simply don’t give a shit that families are starving to death. It’s shocking that there are people like that on this forum, even after all of this time I still get shocked and feel a bit sick about that.

IGaveSoManySigns · 06/09/2025 17:54

Stripes56 · 06/09/2025 16:46

@SummerFeverVenice @Martymcfly24

It’s a deflection from talking about the food shortages and suffering in Gaza.

There’s nothing in the original article apportioning for the difficulties- it’s just an account of a family trying to get food for a day.

It’s actually impossible for some people to have sympathy. Nobody apportions blame in this article, but still some just.

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