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The struggle to get food in Gaza

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IGaveSoManySigns · 06/09/2025 08:58

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d3d76a1d-f320-4047-8a57-cc6f567f08c0

This article is horrifying. £150 for a 25kg bag of flour. They don’t have access to fresh vegetables. No water. No cash, no food. This is disgraceful.

Video diary: The struggle for one meal in Gaza - BBC News

As warnings about starvation escalate, 20-year-old Mosab al-Trtori shares videos of his daily struggle to find food, water and fuel in Gaza.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-d3d76a1d-f320-4047-8a57-cc6f567f08c0

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sneezysbonnet · 10/09/2025 10:34

@Martymcfly24 "Volunteers".... That's a new one.

99.9% of people in prison are volunteers

Stripes56 · 10/09/2025 07:16

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 19:52

"At this stage, Israel has completed its part in the humanitarian aid process. It is now the responsibility of international organizations to collect this aid and distribute it. A task in which the UN has unfortunately fallen short of expectations.

Following the delivery across the border, international organizations pick up the aid, and transfer it over to distribution points. The UN has sites surrounding their warehouses, both within and around the humanitarian zone."

Why aren't more people pushing for the UN to be better at its job of aid distribution. Its there get it distributed.

NGOs have found it difficult to operate and recruit under bureaucratic procedures initiated by Israel that they feel are unjustified and even illegal. Some more details here:
https://www.nrc.no/news/2025/august/gaza-israel-threatens-to-ban-major-aid-organizations-as-starvation-deepens

Gaza joint statement: Israel threatens to ban major aid organisations as starvation deepens

https://www.nrc.no/news/2025/august/gaza-israel-threatens-to-ban-major-aid-organizations-as-starvation-deepens

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 19:52

"At this stage, Israel has completed its part in the humanitarian aid process. It is now the responsibility of international organizations to collect this aid and distribute it. A task in which the UN has unfortunately fallen short of expectations.

Following the delivery across the border, international organizations pick up the aid, and transfer it over to distribution points. The UN has sites surrounding their warehouses, both within and around the humanitarian zone."

Why aren't more people pushing for the UN to be better at its job of aid distribution. Its there get it distributed.

sneezysbonnet · 09/09/2025 19:42

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 19:21

Where are the calls for them.to.deliver it. Very odd.

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/humanitarian-missions/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-humanitarian-aid-situation-in-gaza/

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 19:21

sneezysbonnet · 09/09/2025 11:30

You'll have to ask the UN that, as they are supposed to deliver it.

Where are the calls for them.to.deliver it. Very odd.

sneezysbonnet · 09/09/2025 11:30

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 09:46

Why is the aid uncollected?

You'll have to ask the UN that, as they are supposed to deliver it.

sneezysbonnet · 09/09/2025 11:28

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 09/09/2025 06:45

I keep coming back to, if you can justify inflicting famine, causing injuries and death against children then you have lost humanity.

That's Hamas for you, in their goal of destroying Israel they have lost what little humanity they had.

Lolapusht · 09/09/2025 10:12

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 09:46

Why is the aid uncollected?

Aid agencies have intermittently stopped delivering aid throughout the war as the trucks are raided and drivers sometimes killed. Either by Hamas or by gangs/millitant groups that Hamas can’t/won’t stop. Hamas is still the governing authority in Gaza so they should be keeping control of society and policing life in a war zone. They policed things before 7 Oct (I’ve seen the videos of their torture method on Gazans in custody so there’s no way they couldn’t control things. They’re brutal) so should be doing it now. Hamas regularly publicly beats & shoots individuals they accuse of theft (not always with evidence) but can’t make sure aid gets to the people. Odd that.

The UN also doesn’t agree with how the GHF operates so refuse to work with them. They are going to ignore an immediate solution because they don’t agree with it in principle. I’m sure the people struggling to feed their families are really thankful for the UN’s moral integrity.

Lolapusht · 09/09/2025 10:02

SharonEllis · 07/09/2025 18:35

Yes I saw that. How can we verify such footage?

Imshin on X.

She posts videos from Gazans posted to SM (usually Telegram). She started watching videos years ago (2017/8?) as she wanted to improve her language skills. She was surprised by what she saw as she believed the open air prison narrative but was seeing images that completely contradicted that.

As reported by SkyNews Arabic.

This is not to say there is food everywhere in Gaza as there isn’t! There is a widespread food shortage that is made much worse by the horrific inequality Gazans have to endure.

The struggle to get food in Gaza
The struggle to get food in Gaza
Lolapusht · 09/09/2025 09:55

Leoari · 07/09/2025 18:19

So on social media there looks like there's 2 new cafes that have opened in Gaza this week - a Nutella one and one called vanilla. They look really nice and have lots of nice food. And also lots of pictures from Gazans social media showing fully stocked street markets? Are Hamas preventing people to getting to these areas?

Short answer, yes.

There is a widespread food shortage in Gaza, but food is getting in and some parts of society are doing fine. Nice cafes to go to, I saw a lovely wedding the other day with everyone dressed fancy enjoying the entertainment, restaurants and a car “showroom”. The images of food in supermarkets & cafes show really unhealthy, sugary snacks as well as fresh fruit/veg. Why are there stores selling sweets, mountains of Nutella and foods we wouldn’t eat every day when there is mass starvation? Surely basic nutritionally requirements “for everyone” need to be met before munching on Nutella crepes? Free aid is being sold in markets, all of these diabetes inducing goods are being sold and imported, fruit & veg is available and all of that is under the control of Gazans. Why is there not a system in place to ensure everyone is looked after (try and provide your answer without mentioning Israel). There are aid organisations still operating in Gaza. The UN could be distributing aid but isn’t.

I am aware that Gazan society is inherently unfair and if you’re associated with Hamas you get a lot of benefits, but how on earth is it possible that some people are shopping in supermarkets and are so well fed they can have unhealthy sugary treats and others are scraping together enough money to buy a bag of flour that should be free? That can’t be blamed on Israel. I could not watch my neighbours starve as I feast.

If you think that Hamas is so awful they can’t be trusted to feed the people they’re meant to represent then you support Hamas’ removal. Why aren’t you calling for the UN to distribute aid? Why aren’t you calling on cafe owners to hand out free food?

allusernamesaretakennow · 09/09/2025 09:46

Why is the aid uncollected?

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 09/09/2025 06:45

I keep coming back to, if you can justify inflicting famine, causing injuries and death against children then you have lost humanity.

GladioliGreen · 09/09/2025 00:20

Martymcfly24 · 08/09/2025 19:53

Seems its not just civilians Israel is blocking food from .
https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-court-starving-palestinian-prisoners-6810350-Sep2025/

What's worse is that only 1 in 4 of those held for an indefinite period of time without charge are actually Hamas fighters. The rest are civillians. They held an 82 year old woman with Alzheimers for 6 weeks. At one point they had so many elderly, sick and disabled people without charge that they had what they dubbed "the geriatric pen". These are the civillians that Israel are holding in appalling conditions and purposefully starving.

Israeli politicians, the military,the media and many posters here often refer to all detainees as “terrorists”.
That includes Fahamiya al-Khalidi, an 82-year-old with Alzheimer’s who was abducted with her female carer in Gaza City in December 2023, and held in Israel for six weeks under the unlawful combatant law. It's utterly shameful.

Martymcfly24 · 08/09/2025 22:19

sneezysbonnet · 08/09/2025 20:58

And Hamas starves the Israeli hostages but that's OK ?

https://english.palinfo.com/reports/2025/08/02/344609/

The Palestinian prisoners are all volunteers but the Israeli hostages aren't.

Edited

Could you point to the part of my post where I said that was ok please?

Volunteers.... That's a new one.

sneezysbonnet · 08/09/2025 20:58

Martymcfly24 · 08/09/2025 19:53

Seems its not just civilians Israel is blocking food from .
https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-court-starving-palestinian-prisoners-6810350-Sep2025/

And Hamas starves the Israeli hostages but that's OK ?

https://english.palinfo.com/reports/2025/08/02/344609/

The Palestinian prisoners are all volunteers but the Israeli hostages aren't.

sneezysbonnet · 08/09/2025 17:10

PrawnAgain · 08/09/2025 13:59

@SharonEllis

There are examples of this thread.

For example someone posted a link to an article about how Hamas are living in luxury while Gazan's starve, as if this makes it ok that Israel won't let aid in.

Edited

Will you please stop saying that "Israel won't let food in", that is not correct.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/25/israel-gives-tour-of-un-aid-left-rotting-in-gaza/

https://tjvnews.com/news/israel/aid-at-the-gate-hundreds-of-gaza-bound-food-trucks-rot-as-hamas-blocks-delivery/

https://www.nysun.com/article/in-gaza-the-real-problem-is-distribution

PrawnAgain · 08/09/2025 13:59

@SharonEllis

There are examples of this thread.

For example someone posted a link to an article about how Hamas are living in luxury while Gazan's starve, as if this makes it ok that Israel won't let aid in.

SirHumphreyRocks · 08/09/2025 11:37

Leoari · 07/09/2025 18:19

So on social media there looks like there's 2 new cafes that have opened in Gaza this week - a Nutella one and one called vanilla. They look really nice and have lots of nice food. And also lots of pictures from Gazans social media showing fully stocked street markets? Are Hamas preventing people to getting to these areas?

If only it were easy to fact check bullshit before posting it. Oh wait, it is...
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250806-videos-restaurants-gaza-famine-gazawood
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/04/gaza-cafes-starvation-social-media

Here's a lovely article about five fantastic swanky new restaurants in London. https://www.cntraveller.com/article/new-london-restaurants
Does that mean all the food banks have closed?

Social media images of Gaza cafes can’t hide truth: Israel is starving Palestinians

Pro-Israel posts point to a handful of cafes to claim 2 million people are not suffering hunger – despite Israel’s own data

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/04/gaza-cafes-starvation-social-media

EmmaOvary · 08/09/2025 09:45

mids2019 · 06/09/2025 10:26

Yes, it is. Both things can be true at once.

SharonEllis · 08/09/2025 09:44

PrawnAgain · 08/09/2025 09:15

Of course I can't be bothered to go through the board and collate everywhere this happens, complete with notes on context for you.
If you post regularly you would also have seen if but if haven't then take a look.

This isn't a court of law it's a chat forum. I'm not required to build a case to provide proof for you.

Oh dont be silly. I asked for an example.

allusernamesaretakennow · 08/09/2025 09:23

UN Rejects Help to Deliver Aid to Gazans: The United Nations rejected offers by the U.S.- and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) to deliver much-needed humanitarian aid to Gazan civilians that is sitting undelivered inside the Gaza Strip despite the United Nations’ own warnings about widespread hunger. “We’ve been sounding the alarm for weeks on the need for more aid in Gaza while we’ve seen aid by the UN and other organizations being piled near the borders but not being delivered,” GHF Interim Director John Acree said. UN spokesperson Stephane Dujarric rejected the offer on July 23, accusing the GHF of setting up operations that “increase the risk of people [being] shot at or trampled while trying to get food.

Its a bizarre situation. It feels like political point scoring..why wont the UN accept help.

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