Global Sumud Flotilla heading for Gaza

Better than some who spend all day every day on the internet defending a genocide and stating that the murder of 60k+ people is okay!

You think this level of murder is restraint - at least 20,000 dead children. Imagine they were Israeli children, how would you feel then? Do you think Palestinians are less deserving of life, of human rights, than Israelis? Have you watched any of the interviews with Palestinians, with the little children missing limbs. I suggest looking at Ms Rachel’s instagram - she regularly interviews the little kids and families injured in Gaza.

This did not start on October 7th! Israel has been murdering and displacing Palestinians every year since it was founded. Trauma actually stops the brain developing like normal so if someone bombs your town for months, steals your home, murders your parents or siblings - you are much more likely to join a terrorist organisation like Hamas. Israel recruits for Hamas through the murder and displacement of the Palestinian population.

There are numerous documentaries on streaming sites like Netflix that follow the lives of Palestinians before October 7th - there is also a documentary called Tantura on Amazon Prime which goes right back to the founding of Israel in 1948 and shows how it started with murder, displacement and rape. There are countless documentaries on settlers at the moment where settlers express the desire to wipe out and replace the native population - obviously the famous one called The Settlers. There is an amazing guy who documents the violence of the settlers on instagram “Sam_Avraham” have a look at some of his videos! Let me reiterate, this did not start on October 7th.

She's at it again then. Who would have thought one could make a living from being a moral crusader. Christopher Columbus, she is not.

I suggest you do a search on the total number of deaths in hiromshima and Dreasden and that will clearly give you ample evidence of how unbelievably controlled the IDF counter attack into Gaza has been. Find the facts and do much better. I repeat, war’s are horrible but if terrorists start one I hope the right side will finish it.

Maybe this time she will at least have the decency to watch the film. But I doubt it.

Every single person on that boat is secretly hoping to be, and counting on being rescued by Israel.

When they do indeed get rescued by Israel, they'll bitch and moan about it, while knowing full well theyre grateful not to be stuck in Gaza.

I dont know how Jewish people dont lose their minds over the hypocrisy.

Perhaps she is hoping to recreate Jesus's miracle with the seven loaves of bread and a few small fish.

Whatever happens to her, I'm sure she will be excited by the drama of it all.

Argh. Let Greta et al land in Gaza. Let them distribute their symbolic aid with Hamas to help. Good luck to them.

Your link doesn't say who killed the people in the figures - a proportion will have been killed by Hamas, nor does it say that Israel accepts the figures, nor does it give a civilian/fighter breakdown. But a useful article. Thanks for the link.

So Israel agrees that all those 60k people were 'directly' killed by them? What is their estimate of how many have been killed by Hamas then?

If anyone wants to follow the flotilla’s journey they post about it here:

https://globalsumudflotilla.org/

They have asked people to be careful about what they share and check it against their site as there is a lot of misinformation doing the rounds - one is from people falsely claiming there are only 3 ships left and the other is people using AI images that show a massive fleet of ships which is also not accurate.

From their website it looks like there are currently 22 boats with crew from 44 countries sailing.

They were unceremoniously bundled out of the country by the Egyptian police and assorted heavies. It was quite amusing.

I assumed at least some of them would have found their way onto the current flotilla - professional activists that they are.

I think he might be a mumsnetter. Has the march to Gaza left Egypt yet? I haven't been watching.

Strange you dispute it when even Israel accepts the figures. These 60k are verified violent deaths. When they include the dead under the rubble and bodies that are unrecoverable (because 85,000 tons of explosives has that effect), they estimate the real death toll of violent deaths is actually as high as 90,000 with over half being women and children. This does not include indirect deaths caused by the aid embargo like people not being able to access vital medical care or requiring food and water to live (strange that). A good tip for disputing facts is to provide links to where you get your information from.

https://www.economist.com/interactive/graphic-detail/2025/08/06/how-much-of-gaza-is-left-standing

The less than truthful ‘Gazan health ministry’

No we dont know that the IDF have 'directly killed' 60k people. We dont know how many of those were actually killed by Hamas and of course many are completely legitimate targets if they are Hamas. We know the figure of Gazans killed, as issued by the Hamas health ministry.

Please show us the evidence! 85000 tons of explosives is 6x the amount used in Hiroshima - more than the bombing of Dresden and London combined. The IDF have directly killed over 60,000 people which includes over 20,000 children. You think that is safe???

You missed out the fact that the buildings that were blown up by the IDF were on buildings that were already rammed to the high heavens with explosives set by Hamas with the trip wires set in the under ground tunnels.

The IDF’s approach to the Arial bombing was a far more expedient and safer approach to remove buildings that would of already have blown up, indeed, they may well have been accidentally blown up by children setting them off if entering into the tunnels

Another point to note is that setting boobie traps is a breach of International law.

Can anyone explain to me why it is such a threat to Israel for this flotilla to land in Gaza? Why don't they just let it happen? What's the worse that could happen to Israel.

I'm sure there is or can be a mechanism for checking boats heading to Gaza to ensure no weapons or other security risks are on board and permitting entry.

You didn't answer what laws you think she would be repeatedly flouting?

@KoalaKoKo yes I do actually. Did you not see what happened last time and Smiley Greta with her sarnie. She looked terrified didn’t she?

And I just wanted to point out…. When you’re in that situation when ‘home made’ rockets are falling. From more than one surrounding terror outfit your Brain does not think ‘home made rocket’. You are still terrified, your mental health is wrecked, your children are inconsolable, you live on your nerves. Your sympathy is only ever one sided. It ALL needs to stop.

They want to sail into being received into this. You don’t think Hamas will see them as useful? Manipulate them? It makes no sense as what do you think happens ‘symbolically’ when they arrive.

You think they have more to fear from Hamas - the IDF have rolled over pro Palestine supporters with tanks, they have shot them - the IDF have also recently murdered 20k+ children, don’t know if you’ve heard! If I was on those boats I would fear the IDF and how after murdering me they would use propaganda to justify the murder. Yes the breaking of the blockade is symbolic but it is also necessary to highlight the horrendous situation! People are being murdered right this second, kids are dying of enforced starvation right this second - it is so important we highlight it and shout it from the rooftops so our governments stop all trade and all relations with these mass murderers! I am so proud of the brave people on those boats - if I didn’t have kids I would totally go with them!

Because our ally, Israel, is fighting a death cult and all those that side with Hamas' propaganda should be treated as terrorists

@KoalaKoKo i have had a healthier dose of reality bigger than you can imagine. Have you lived under constant terrifying rocket fire? Praying that dome does what it needs to? Doesn’t work all the time you know. Been displaced? Thankful that our government provides the shelters that saves our lives.

Greta is putting herself in that position and I don’t wish anything on her. Same as the rest on those gas guzzling boats. I thought she was an eco warrior? How much fuel has been dumped in the sea on these performative flights of fancy?

have you got any evidence that Israel (sorry the ‘Zionist’s’) droned and carried out that attack near Malta?? I mean I know they are technologically advanced but still? Or are you insinuating others were in on it? Which wanders slightly into conspiracy theory territory. Even wiki admits there is no evidence. (Al jeezera doesn’t count)

Whether you agree or disagree Israel will not let a flotilla of who knows who with who knows what to just float into Gaza.

what on earth (logically) do you think will happen when they get there? And Israel can’t win as they will be expected to protect them as they will carry individually a massive price on their heads (with Greta’s the biggest)

Do you know how much they were carrying last time? Those boats are tiny and fairly full of people. After they are all fed and watered it will be negligible. And Hamas will Just let them leave again? It’s the epitome of white saviour complex.

They have been warned.