Hugh Bonneville at the Downton Abbey Premiere

Yeah there's a live genocide happening in our time, what's this buffoon doing acknowledging it

Oh I beg to differ. One can have the poshest education ever and still be thick as 2 short planks.

You don't garble a 'what's happened in gaza is horrid! but my film is lovely! Without looking like a buffoon.

Oh I beg to differ. One can have the poshest education ever and still be thick as 2 short planks.

You don't garble a 'what's happened in gaza is horrid! but my film is lovely! Without looking like a buffoon.

Many people appear to disagree with you. Are they all tits, too?

No-one who earned a place at Corpus Christi is unintelligent.

That is not what he said, btw.

Obviously some things are facts.

However, even with facts the media can be biased re what they choose to report & what they ignore.

Also our own bias means we find it easier to believe some facts and harder to believe others. I think we all have bias whether consciously or unconsciously.

We’re always saying on these threads, where’s the evidence? But then may not even believe that as we say the source is unreliable.

The articles I reed about in the BBC talk about concerns regarding lack of food in Gaza, destruction of hospitals and infrastructure in Gaza and large number of Palestinian deaths. Are these contentious ideas? I thought they were facts? The BBC also reports on what is going on in Israel.

Article about impact of lack of folic acid on newborns in the Telegraph- children are being born with deformities due to malnutrition:

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/war-and-famine-fuel-rise-in-birth-defects-in-gaza/

Does this make the Telegraph biased?

Let’s face it we’re all biased.

If you’re aware that other people are, also recognise your own.

'The BBC is especially pro Israel in its reporting I've noticed'

Particularly that very unbiased reporter Jeremy Bowen..

I'd like to see him on a serious current affairs programme, debating like a grown up, backing up his thoughts and being challenged by someone intelligent.

Using a premiere to garble 'it's just horrid what is happening in gaza!' than quickly saying smugly 'yes the film is great though' made him look like an absolute tit imo.

I saw a few clips of this. It was completely bizarre, influencers wandering around a car park with aid in it saying see there is no famine in Gaza even though they aren't allowed to go outside of this car park and see anywhere that Palestinians actually are. It's propaganda only for the very stupid.

I saw a few clips of this. It was completely bizarre, influencers wandering around a car park with aid in it saying see there is no famine in Gaza even though they aren't allowed to go outside of this car park and see anywhere that Palestinians actually are. It's propaganda only for the very stupid.

Real standard of debate has its place of course.

Israel is paying Maga Influencers to come to Israel and "influence" so I think Hugh can say something as non offensive as this is ok.

I was referring to mainstream news feeds like the BBC, not mumsnet forums.

The BBC is especially pro Israel in its reporting I've noticed. Careful use of words in a script they are internally mandated to use.

It sounds like you think people are talking about the atrocities going on there too much?

Because I think its a serious subject, with real people dying, with real people facing existential risk and with people in this country facing real risk too. I think the people of Israel and Palestine deserve a better standard of debate, from people who have taken the trouble to get themselves informed and who are willing to express their opin ions in an environment that fosters understanding not division. Stunts like this achieve none of these things. And I can't stand pompous self congratulatory slebs and Im not feeding their delusion that their half baked opinions are important.

What on earth are you talking about? Gaza has had 4 articles on bbc in last 24h. Uyghurs, Yemen, Sudan ( apart from unrelated landslide) all 0. Ive had 3 notifications from the Guardian this morning. Mumsnet has its own section of the forum for Israel / Gaza? How can you say Gaza isnt being talked about? Its like Big Brother in here sometimes 😬

I mean here we are on a forum for Gaza, talking about Gaza, on a thread about some actor talking about Gaza, and you're telling me we dont talk about it very much, while we're actually talking about it on an active thread?

And you're telling me to open my eyes? Laughable.

I wonder what you’ve been reading and where you’ve been looking then?

Every MSM organisation, including the BBC, has been sharing Hamas propaganda daily ad nauseum for almost 2 years! Any rebuttals from Israel are a small paragraph at the end of the article in most cases.

Take the pictures of the children with medical conditions touted as proof of famine?

The claim that a child was shot by the IDF at the GHF aid site?

Gaza is discussed more by MPs in Parliament over UK affairs like the state of the NHS.

Hell, I think this board probably has had more threads on it after the main boards like AIBU and Chat.

There’s more Palestinian flags in the UK than any other country including our own.

More marches and protests on the streets than for any other cause.

Have you looked for daily updates on what’s happening each day on any other war?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Lets twist again, like we did last summer.....

He's a fool because he's against genocide and forced starvation?