Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

Oh so you don’t think the Irish have a bias against the English for historical reasons?

many seem happy to admit to a bias against the English.

No I was suggesting there is an English historical bias about the history of Ireland so wouldn't fully trust an English historian when it comes to discussing that period in Ireland. I'm not talking about English people in general

Please explain how the Irish being oppressed by the British has them force teaming themselves with the current Palestinian fight for liberation, considering that Ireland became a republic nigh on a hundred years ago.

Ireland have not just started "force teaming themselves" with the current Palestinian fight for liberation it goes way back It is not just about being oppressed by the British, many of the same British colonial officers served in both Ireland and British Mandate Palestine, the black and tans who terrorised the Irish were then sent to Palestine.

Nationalism and virulent racism or any other ism often follow emancipation and Independence.
Ireland is no different. And your attempt to deflect the fact that an oppressed people does not mean a sanctified people incapable of oppressing others shows that you know this
Not sure what point you're trying to make here? Who did Ireland oppress after their independence? They oppressed themselves through the Catholic church. Who has said we are a sanctified people?

My point @Everexpanding was that on a discussion about the Irish having prejudices against certain groups, many seem happy to admit to a bias against the English.

Less keen to admit to having a bias against Jews though some seem happy to admit to having an affinity with Palestinians in Gaza. Which currently leads to a huge amount of criticism - much justified but some exaggerated - against Israel.

Its a bit late to recognise antisemitism only when Jews are killed.

No.

You are wrong to state Ireland has no long history of antisemitism as evidenced by various historians. Its as simple as that. Noone is throwing 'antisemitism' about 'with abandon' as anyone readi g this can see.

Can I suggest you look into 'The Livingstone formulation'?

Im sorry @Everexpanding but it is impossible to have a conversation with you because you twist everything that is said. You said it was 'bullshit' that Ireland had a history of antisemitism. You didnt have to say that. You chose to. Its untrue and you can expect to be corrected. That is not 'deflecting'. Especially when Irish posters draw on their own history to explain Irish alignment with Palestine.

Having introduced that topic yourself you don't now want to talk about it. OK. You've shifted the goalposts to identifying 'the problem'. There are lots of problems. A war is a problem. Soldiers on both sides committing war crimes is a problem. Antisemitism in Ireland is a problem. Etc. Etc.

Jewish people don't all think the same so those that oppose Israeli government actions will do so for lots of different reasons.

No, I don't think a rabbi is antisemitic.

Broadly speaking that seems a pretty un-controversial paragraph, yes. Irish people have told us on here over the last 2 years that 'Irish hostility to Israel derives from the anti-British, anti-imperialist perspective of Irish history' to use his words. That statement is backed up by @Pasly above who seems to think an Irish person wouldn't trust an article written by a highly regarded British historian published in a mainstream British publication. I can only assume that lack of trust relates to past British/Irish history as it cant be based on objective analysis of his credentials? I dont know if Pasly is Irish though.

Are you suggesting Irish people have a problem with English people too?

The two things appear to be linked actually as I’ve heard people say Irish people tend to have an affinity with Gazans because they believe they share a history of being oppressed.

Rachel Moiselle has written quite a bit on the relationship of past and present.

Thank you for posting, quite a fascinating article (history is all about debate). I'm not sure what you're referencing when you say 'what's happening at the moment'. The article is from 2024?

I posted it is response to everexpanding saying 'Bullshit there is no long history of anti semitism in Ireland'. A statement that is obviously untrue.
I don't think its a radical idea that prejudice and trauma in the past can play out through subsequent generations? I think its a concept well understood in Ireland.
Would you claim that segregation in the United States was irrelevant to race relations in the United States today?
If the potato famine and British colonialim still have relevance in Ireland, then surely the Limerick pogrom does too?

Well yes, why wouldn't Irish people trust a British writer, unless they are mired in bigotry? Surely you're not suggesting Irish people are too prejudiced to trust a British writer? That's very disturbing as the British have held Irish writers and literature in high regard for a very long time, despite the politics of the last 200 years.

You may not be familiar with Sebag-Montefiore then but he is highly regarded. Here are some of his awards. Catherine the Great & Potemkin was shortlisted for the Samuel Johnson Prize, the Duff Cooper Prizd and the Marsh Biography Award Stalin won History Book of the Year at the 2004 British Book Awards. Young Stalin won the LA Times Book Prize for Best Biography, the Costa Book Award ,the Bruno Kreisky Award for Political Literature, Le Grand Prix de la Biographie Politique and was shortlisted for the James Tait Black Memorial Prize.
Jerusalem: The Biography won The Jewish Book of the Year Award from the Jewish Book Council.
One Night in Winter won the Political Novel of the Year Prize and was longlisted for the Orwell Prize

No understanding of the intergenerational trigger of occupation and starvation

Shh your not supposed to mention what's happening at the moment, that's not important at all.

https://www.thejournal.ie/limerick-cannot-be-branded-antisemitic-says-heritage-group-6578157-Dec2024/

Do expand on why the limerick pogrom in 1904 has relevance to Irish criticism of a campaign of bombing and starvation in current times which has claimed the lives of 60, 000 people?