Central Bank of Ireland confirms it will no longer approve sale of Israeli ‘war bonds’

Antizionism is nearly always antisemitic as it simply means believing in a Jewish homeland in Israel. The vast majority of Jews in Israel and elsewhere are zionists. Of course many are opposed to Netanyahu, this is very well known to anyone with a passing knowledge of Israeli politics. It doesn't make them antizionist.

I came across her only recently, I think when looking at the Jewish museum website?

Ireland has constantly been a support for Palestinians. So much so the last Kuffiya factory in Palestine made one called Saoirse "freedom".
https://www.kufiya.org/search?q=Saoirse

I purchased 1 for everyone of my family members different colours and designs.

Unlike some people here, evidently, I have a job and have been busy doing that today. I do have some more links which are interesting and happy to provide tbem for people interested in good faith. Please pm me. I wont be posting for tbe benefit of someone who is rude and offensive and clearly hasnt read the links I have already posted.

Oh dear, what a racist car crash this thread is.

For those at the back who can’t quite see the poster: antisemitism is racism.

In fact it’s the most enduring and pernicious form of racism there is. That’s in smaller letters on the class poster, so you’ll need to get up off the mat and come and have a closer look.

You you demand mountains of evidence in response to any claims that racism exists?

Actually I have posted at least two articles.

You are welcome. I am actually doing projects on Mary with my class this term, she only died in 2002 and is an absolutely fascinating woman.

Make up your mind. We are being badgered to provide more and more evidence, but now accused of derailing?

All of this was in response to someone saying it was bullshit thst there was a history of antisemitism in Ireland (and consistently beimg pretty rude). All that was needed was to acknowledge that yes of course there was a history of antisemitism in Ireland and there would have been no argument

Thank you, very interesting.

Hyde and DeValera were totally wrong to send condolences on Hitlers death. DeValera's personality was definitely his undoing here and his unwillingness to see the bigger picture here and his desire to make a point to the American ambassador were definitely a factor. He wouldn't be a popular figure around where I live!

Although neutral Ireland was at times struck, I only learned recently the Synagogue in Dublin was the only one the Germans paid reperations for (and I can only imagine how many they destroyed).

While there was undoubtedly anti semitism in Ireland at this time there were some figures who helped Jewish people such as Hubert Butler and Mary Elmes (Cork woman)who was arrested by the Gestapo for saving at least 200 Jewish children bound for Auschwitz.

Clonyn Castle in Westmeath hosted 100 Jewish children for rehabilitation just after the war. Initially the Dept said no but the Chief Rabbi appealed to his friend DeValera (the irony) who approved the request.

Their point is to derail the thread.

Ireland is being targeted because it's government had the temerity to actually represent the will of the people who voted for them and had the cheek to recognise a Palestinian state.

Remember in history there have been lots of dubious/questionable actions. For example German Zionists collaborated with the Nazis between 1933 and 1939 to facilitate the transfer of Jewish Germans to Palestine.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/history/article/2023/08/06/90-years-ago-a-negotiated-transfer-led-over-50-000-german-jews-to-palestine_6082440_157.html

But apparently Israel, as a state, is appalling. Even though it was established more recently than the Irish state’s sympathetic message on the passing of Herr Hitler.

And you can say what you like - however nasty - about Israel, and its roots, the Jewish desire for a homeland, and its principal inhabitants, Jews.

🙄

Churchill and Hitler are obviously not equivalent whether Ireland was neutral or not. More on this in Montefiore's piece above which you perhaps didn't read.

I wouldn’t want to be deleted again, by criticising the Irish state - because, let’s face it, criticism of the government of Ireland is just not on.

But history’s always interesting, particularly history within living memory. So how’s this for the Irish state’s reputation:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/31/secondworldwar.ireland

Well, if you can’t send sympathy for Hitler’s death, whose death can you sympathise with? 🙄