Pregnant women in Gaza describe malnutrition and extreme distress caused by Israel's blockade

Oh stop telling people how to post on a thread. You have actively particpated in the so-called derailing by asking posters questions, which they of course answer, and posting inflammatory posts. First its hasbsra, now a co-ordinated strategy by someone who has barely posted on this thread. You could just engage in a conversation about the predicament of Palestinian women but you seem determined to turn it into an argument.

Ok. I can only assume that you were supporting my point as that is what your quote was doing. Thanks, it was interesting and I'll follow up the reference.

Yes I am the Taskmaster (not!)

Now you are derailing your own thread by trying to pick an argument with someone which does remind me of another user also on the pro Pal side.

It’s not misinformation to quote from a source others find weak. If it was we would be accusing dozens of people of doing it, but we digress.

How long has thexwar been going? Why on earth get pregnant in the first place and I dont care what people label this if you are living in a war zone or other bad environment no matter where in the world, yes including uk, there is absolutely no way you care about children to get pregnant it about what adults want not what is best for children

It's not just about contraception, it's about a woman's ability to refuse a partner wanting sex when it is known that it would result in pregnancy in a war zone. There are means of intimacy that don't necessarily result in pregnancy.

I don't think they have enough resources to have contraception.

It’s not all about you @Everexpanding

My comment was a general one not aimed at individuals.

And if people ask questions or respond to our posts in such a way that we feel we need to give a response, that’s hardly derailing.

Agreed.

It's easy enough to work out yourself. I have zero interest in sending you a PM.

Thank you for this article. It is the most comprehensive and detailed I have seen.

It's a double whammy for Palestian women, to be both in a war zone and to be subject to a misogynist society. It just seems pregnancy deferral is not an option for some women and I think it is legitimate to look at a culture that seems to view women as purely child bearing vessels and pressured into pregnancy at a time which is far from optimal.

But they have unrestricted access to the internet, just like us, don't they?

It is just my observation that the Israel supporters on here do not post long posts copy and posted from AI. Nor do they regularly post individual examples from X (though they may use X occasionally) and act as though they can be extrapolated to prove something in a wider sense.

Never did I say that the other side of the debate are lazy and misinformed. Some are well informed and put in a lot of effort to debate politely so that even if I don't agree with everything they say, I can understand their point of view.

Others make no effort at all to be polite but instead go out of their way to be unpleasant and make inflammatory comments.

Great @Mercurial123 you're back. Still waiting for an explanation for the interesting quote you posted but refused to explain. Do send by private message if you like as for some reason you don't want to share on the thread.

Haaretz is an Israeli newspaper and just about the only way anyone will come anywhere near learning the truth of what is happening.

The israeli public are being protected by the media in general from hearing anything they’d rather not know about and Netanyahu lies and obfuscates.

So your opionion is that the people who share the same views as yourself are intelligent and widely read. Whilst the other side of the debate are lazy and misinformed. Got it lol.

Can I point out @Everexpanding that the person who raised the question you didn't like was someone on your 'side' who said 'Wait for someone heartless and ignorant to come along and say why did women get pregnant?' Someone then asked basically why that was such a bad question. On a mothers site you know full well its a question that would spring to mind for many women. As I've said before the extraordinary pushback to that question was the problem. Instead of accusing other posters of ignorance, hate and being disgusting and shameful someone could have expressed empathy for women getting pregnant who didnt want to be, and acknowledged that that, of course happens. The conversation would never have developed as it did. But no, that was racist, dog whistles and victim blaming apparently.
But then to accuse others of derailing when responding to points, often questions made to them? Thats just ridiculous. And, nobody stopped anyone answering the question in your op about what we could do.
Then others accuse people of defending war crimes, which noone has, you are again accusing people of being racist, and now spreading Israeli government propaganda? That's unacceptable. You can't post inflammatory stuff and personal attacks and not expect people to respond.

It’s incredibly sad mothers and babies aren’t getting their medical needs. Hopefully Israel will let the mobile maternity unit through. Doubt it, but would be happy to be proved wrong. They stopped a doctor taking in tubs of baby formula. US senators are saying Israel needs to let in more formula.

There are a million people in Gaza city, Israel has stopped the air drops and aid coming in from the north. They have stopped the humanitarian pauses. The Red Cross are concerned that people are not going to be able to evacuate. The IDF is saying they shouldn’t go in, but it’s invasion is proceeding.

““It is impossible that a mass evacuation of Gaza City could ever be done in a way that is safe and dignified under the current conditions,” ICRC President Mirjana Spoljaric said in a statement, warning that starving,disabled* *and injured Palestinians were incapable of moving.
“Such an evacuation would trigger a massive population movement that no area in the Gaza Strip can absorb, given the widespread destruction of civilian infrastructure and the extreme shortages of food, water, shelter and medical care,” added Spoljaric.”

CNN are already showing corpses of dead children.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/30/middleeast/airdrops-israel-halt-evacuation-gaza-city-intl

Their point was stated. That the uniquely awful thing about conditions for pregnant women in Gaza is that their own government calculatedly created the conditions for them & will not surrender.

The Israel supporters seem very well read to me. It’s more some of the other side that appear to rely heavily on X & AI. They are the ones that should look at a wider range of sources, ideally ones not affected by algorithms.

I don’t think any of us doubt the severity of what is happening Gaza. The dispute is only about who we primarily blame for it - Hamas or the Israel government/IDF.