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Hoppinggreen · 30/08/2025 18:19

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 15:49

Noone mentioned the better legal rights for women in Israel being a comfort to women in Gaza.

You mentioned how the rights of Israeli women are better than those of Gazan women, I am sure that doesn't come as a surprise to anyone so it may be that you had another reason for making that point.

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 17:03

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:56

Maybe go back and read some of your previous comments and then join the dots. Or is that too much of a challenge?

I'd really like to understand how the low birth rate in the ghetto (which the author suggests was down to women's choice) relates to the suggestion on this thread that its somehow awful for people to wonder why Palestinian women aren't making the same choice in Gaza at the moment?

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:56

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:18

Could you just explain?

Maybe go back and read some of your previous comments and then join the dots. Or is that too much of a challenge?

Stripes56 · 30/08/2025 16:52

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:27

Thanks 😊

The EU is vacillating on whether it should reconsider its association with Israel, which provides significant research funding via Horizon, due to concerns about what is happening in Gaza. They are apparently waiting to see if the situation improves now.

However, individuals are taking matters into their own hands. I am not sure if this will make a difference to a right wing government or a right wing population that votes them in, but may make liberals question more what Israel is doing.

People in Gaza themselves just need basic care- it’s not rocket science.

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:28

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:27

Thanks 😊

Sorry wrong quote. Meant to thank @TooBigForMyBoots for payment link.

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:28

Stripes56 · 30/08/2025 16:26

Saying that, there are concerns in academic institutions in Israel about the recent uptick in them being sidelined by academics and even organisations in Europe due to the concerns about starvation in Gaza at present.

There has been quite widespread boycotting and disruption of relations with Israeli universities for a long time, but intensified recently. I wonder how that helps pregnant women in Gaza? When Israeli research and development is so important in so many fields.

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:27

Stripes56 · 30/08/2025 16:24

I actually think it’s an incredible shame that we have to rely on people/ organisations to boycott to make a difference. Our governments have really been hopeless at changing the reality of what is happening in Gaza.

Thanks 😊

Stripes56 · 30/08/2025 16:26

Saying that, there are concerns in academic institutions in Israel about the recent uptick in them being sidelined by academics and even organisations in Europe due to the concerns about starvation in Gaza at present.

Stripes56 · 30/08/2025 16:24

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:19

Details on this page @MissyB1.❤️

www.christians4palestine.org/activities-and-bds/

I actually think it’s an incredible shame that we have to rely on people/ organisations to boycott to make a difference. Our governments have really been hopeless at changing the reality of what is happening in Gaza.

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:20

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Could you point out the trolls so we know who to ignore?

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:19

Details on this page @MissyB1.❤️

www.christians4palestine.org/activities-and-bds/

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SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:18

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:17

You seriously can't work out my point?!

Could you just explain?

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:18

Double post.

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:17

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:16

I'm not sure what your point is. Yes births take place in various situations. Your quote references women choosing not to get pregnant and bring childten into an awful situation. As we know many women have also chosen at other points in time.

You seriously can't work out my point?!

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:17

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:09

Or it could be a ceasefire and peace talks.
Or, if the war is to continue, it could be a cessation of war crimes by Israel's government.

What is happening to pregnant and nursing mothers in Gaza is horrific and needs to end. They are not responsible for Hamas and they shouldn't be blamed for Hamas and they shouldn't be punished for Hamas.

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Hamas, as the elected government of Gaza, are responsible for pregnant and nursing mothers in Gaza though aren’t they?

Not Israel.

Extraordinary that the OP makes absolutely no mention of Hamas in her posts on this thread IMO.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:16

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SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:16

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:11

For those saying that Palestinian men can't control themselves. From the Jewish Women's Archive

"In addition to amenorrhea, the women of the Lodz ghetto developed a strong desire not to bear children in such a cruel and unstable world, according to Michal Unger. Due to this preference, birth rates in the ghetto were extremely low; only 2,306 babies were born in ghetto during its four-year existence"

Births take place during famine, war, genocide.

I'm not sure what your point is. Yes births take place in various situations. Your quote references women choosing not to get pregnant and bring childten into an awful situation. As we know many women have also chosen at other points in time.

Mercurial123 · 30/08/2025 16:11

For those saying that Palestinian men can't control themselves. From the Jewish Women's Archive

"In addition to amenorrhea, the women of the Lodz ghetto developed a strong desire not to bear children in such a cruel and unstable world, according to Michal Unger. Due to this preference, birth rates in the ghetto were extremely low; only 2,306 babies were born in ghetto during its four-year existence"

Births take place during famine, war, genocide.

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 15:59

If anyone has anything to spare, they're raising funds for another unit. Every little bit helps women and children in Gaza.❤️

www.christians4palestine.org/activities-and-bds/mobile-maternity-unit-for-gaza/

Thanks for this, I’m probably being dim, but following the link I can’t see how to donate? I would really like to.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/08/2025 16:09

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:01

Could the end of this awful situation be Hamas surrendering?

Or it could be a ceasefire and peace talks.
Or, if the war is to continue, it could be a cessation of war crimes by Israel's government.

What is happening to pregnant and nursing mothers in Gaza is horrific and needs to end. They are not responsible for Hamas and they shouldn't be blamed for Hamas and they shouldn't be punished for Hamas.

Martymcfly24 · 30/08/2025 16:06

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:01

Could the end of this awful situation be Hamas surrendering?

Maybe if Netanyahu actually responded to Hamas accepting the ceasefire that might happen instead of just ignoring it so he can continue his plan to control Gaza and invade Gaza city.

But anyway I won't derail the thread because then we might be talking about them instead of those pregnant women.

I donate to the Gaza Infant Care Collective who support mothers and babies if anyone is looking for a charity in those area.

MissyB1 · 30/08/2025 16:06

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:01

Could the end of this awful situation be Hamas surrendering?

Or Israel realising committing a genocide is fucking unacceptable? Doubt that though as they show no shame whatsoever.

No it needs international intervention, but it seems no one has the balls.

SharonEllis · 30/08/2025 16:02

CaramelPecan · 30/08/2025 16:01

Could the end of this awful situation be Hamas surrendering?

Yes, it would. But you'll get short shrift for suggesting it!