IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

It all looked a bit chaotic, sadly the crowd looked out of control.

It is always shocking to see scenes like this when there are coffins, I remember when Shiri Bibas and her 2 son's coffins were handed over the scene of merriment and a party atmosphere by the terrorists and the attendees was sickening.

Whatever 'side' anyone is on when there are bodies in coffins then quiet and respect should be observed.

I don’t see any people here quoting Hamas, just The Un, human rights watch, amnesty, the bbc,

I think it's enough that I say it's information from the IDF (which I do) - people can then make up their own minds whether they consider that a reliable source or not.

If people are going to repeat stuff that Hamas say then they should equally mention that it's according to Hamas, and others can make up their own minds about that.

Especially misinformation being used to cover up war crimes

This is very sad about Mariam Dagga a photo journalist for AP who was one of the five reporters among the 22 people killed by the IDF at the hospital on Monday.

(In Haaretz)

Algeria's ambassador to the United Nations, his voice breaking and on the verge of tears, read a letter Wednesday to the U.N. Security Council that Dagga wrote days before she was killed.

It was addressed to her 13-year-old son, Gaith, who left Gaza at the start of the war to live with his father in the United Arab Emirates.

Holding up a photo of Dagga, Amar Bendjama called her "a young and beautiful mother" whose only weapon was a camera.

"Ghaith. You are the heart and soul of your mother," Bendjama quoted Dagga as writing. "When I die, I want you to pray for me, not to cry for me."

"I want you never, never to forget me. I did everything to keep you happy and safe and when you grow, when you marry, and when you have a daughter, name her Mariam after me."

Well when quoting the IDF you could perhaps preface it with the “the deeply unreliable idf says” or “the independently proven countless times over to have lied idf says” maybe you could recall how the idf lied about the aid workers they shot whose ambulance they buried? Which they denied until footage appeared to the contrary, we should all be careful about spreading misinformation

It's interesting to me that some on here are happy to parrot the Hamas version of events with no acknowledgment even that this is who is providing their version of events.

I don't mind saying I'm getting my information from what the IDF say and I've stated previously that I know they have lied on occasion in the past. So why the reluctance to admit the source of your information about this incident? (not who reported it, who said it originally).

As reported by Reuters: In a statement issued later on Tuesday, Hamas challenged the Israeli account of the hospital casualties, denying that any of the Palestinians killed were militants.

The Hamas government media office said in a statement that one of the six Palestinians who Israel alleged were militants was killed in al-Mawasi some distance from the hospital, and another was killed elsewhere at a different time.

The Hamas statement did not clarify whether the two men were civilians or fighters.

See also their “work” on behalf of the tobacco industry, all round nice people

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Capital_Research_Center_and_the_tobacco_industry#:~:text=While%20the%20Capital%20Research%20Center,sponsors%2C%20including%20the%20tobacco%20industry.

@twiglets I think you should know that influence watch who you quoted earlier is far from a reliable source. It was set up by the capital research centre which is indeed very biased please see below an article on it’s previous vice president, current employee to give you a taste of the kind of minds behind it

www.salon.com/2011/09/02/voting_vadum/

Yes the idfs behaviour at her funeral also shocked me to my core, the idf beat the
pall bearers and her coffin almost dropped to the ground

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y11CVGz7toM&pp=0gcJCRsBo7VqN5tD

This was when it first occurred to me that Israel was not what I had always thought.

If Israel is not targeting journalists, how to explain the at least 180 killed to date ?

According to the United Nations, the number of Palestinian journalists killed by Israel since the start of the war stood at 242 by 11 August 2025.[4][5] On the other hand, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) reported that 192 journalists, at least 184 of them Palestinian, had been killed by Israel as of 10 August 2025[6][7] while the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) reported the killing of at least 180 Palestinian journalists and media workers by Israel as of 11 August 2025

'The logical thing would be for a phone call to Reuters to complain about their perfectly reasonable decision to broadcast footage from Gaza, in the hope that they'd stop'

Maybe they'd tried ringing the gazans working for Reuters and already asked them to desist surveillance of the IDF?

I doubt we will get to know all their decisions based on their Intel but for a military force who consistently warn civilians of strikes it is an about turn to target alleged innocent journalists isn't it?

I mean TBF, hamas could have been by watching Reuters like anyone else...

The logical thing would be for a phone call to Reuters to complain about their perfectly reasonable decision to broadcast footage from Gaza, in the hope that they'd stop. Not to bomb it and kill 20 people in the process.

It all fits with Israel's attitude towards journalism though, that a journalistic camera is considered a military threat, so potent it's worth killing civilians for. In a place of safety.

If the IDF are really going with this as their reasoning, it settles the question is whether they are targeting journalists once and for all. They are a threat in case Hamas are watching the news!

@twiglets you should read up about the murder of journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, long before this current situation Israel had a history of killing journalists. They initially blamed the incident on Palestinians but had to backtrack in the face of incontrovertible evidence that she was shot purposefully by an Israeli sniper

Seems those who run “influence watch” also deny climate change so forgive me if I do not trust their judgement

• Overall, we rate Capital Research Right-Center Biased based on an editorial bias that always favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science on climate change and the use of Questionable sources for support of claims.

I don't know anything about that particular incident or what different media sources had to say about it.

What I do know is that the IMEU is not unbiased because as posted above MEU takes a firmly negative view of Israel in general, and its website repeatedly refers to Israel’s “oppression” of and imposition of “apartheid” on Palestinians.

The fact sheet reports on the investigations of others, the organisation itself is well respected and example below
Then-Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and the Israeli military blamed Abu Akleh’s death on Palestinians, distributing unrelated video of Palestinian gunfire during the invasion as supposed proof. However, multiple independent investigations, including by The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Associated Press, and CNN, as well as by human rights groups like Amnesty International, and the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, all concluded that Abu Akleh was killed by an Israeli soldier. The Israeli military itself later backtracked, stating that Abu Akleh may have been killed by one of its soldiers.

are none of those organisations trustworthy?

Because alleged civilians had also been killed so that is of course regrettable.

It is not a 'feeble excuse' to target a surveillance camera.

Let's hope hamas operatives and their collaborators have learnt a lesson that they need to have separate areas to hang out than hospitals where they put others at risk