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IDF bombs Nasser hospital and then bombs the rescue worker a second time.

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Kakeandkake · 25/08/2025 11:51

It is so sickening that they continue to act with such impunity. The bombed the hospital killing four journalists and THEN struck a second time killing the rescue workers who were trying to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured.

The genocide continues in plain sight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

An injured emergency worker is led away by two other emergency workers. There is rubble and wreckage behind them. He is badly hurt.

Four journalists among 15 killed in Israeli strike on hospital, Gaza officials say

The strikes on Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis are said to have killed journalists working for international media.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp89rp48246o

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Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:53

MissyB1 · 27/08/2025 13:50

Yes Hamas is the Government but that doesn't mean they are physically present in any of the hospitals, just like members of our Government are not present in our hospitals! So to implicate that hamas are inside the hospitals up to no good, or storing ammunition there, (as Israel constantly tries to insist in order to justify bombing them) is ridiculous. Because the actual staff who are running the hospitals would know.

I didn't say they were present.

Hamas were at the hospital, you must have missed the posts about 6 of them being identified.

Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:53

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:51

Things are just being made up now so no point me continuing on this thread.

I'm not defending the IDF re the killings of non Hamas people.

But 6 of the dead were identified as Hamas militants so that's a good thing at least.

Yes, people supporting the IDF's indefensible actions are making up all sorts to continue defending their war crimes.

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Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:51

Things are just being made up now so no point me continuing on this thread.

I'm not defending the IDF re the killings of non Hamas people.

But 6 of the dead were identified as Hamas militants so that's a good thing at least.

MissyB1 · 27/08/2025 13:50

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 09:33

Have you ever noticed the term "Hamas run health ministry" when the BBC etc are reporting about what happens in hospitals? Hamas are the government body that runs hospitals.

Local doctors and nurses in Gaza are employed by Hamas like doctors and nurses in England are employed by the NHS (unless they work in private sector).

Yes Hamas is the Government but that doesn't mean they are physically present in any of the hospitals, just like members of our Government are not present in our hospitals! So to implicate that hamas are inside the hospitals up to no good, or storing ammunition there, (as Israel constantly tries to insist in order to justify bombing them) is ridiculous. Because the actual staff who are running the hospitals would know.

dairydebris · 27/08/2025 13:50

Reminder that if those 6/ 10/ however many terrorists it was had surrendered 1 month / 1 week / 1 day ago then this hospital wouldn't have been bombed and all those innocent bystanders would be at home with their families.

More pointless waste.

GladioliGreen · 27/08/2025 13:48

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:56

I only claimed the Hamas militants would have been carrying weapons no one else.

So 6 more people holding weapons rushed in on the crowded staircase unseen to anybody in the seconds before the 2nd explosion? The IDF was then, without any boots on the ground, able to identify the remains of those 6 people pulled from the rubble who rushed in carrying weapons and name them as terrorists. That seems 'not much of a stretch' to you despite the fact that literally no one else even the IDF is claiming that this is what happened, but you are definitely not biased in anyway, completely neutral.

kirinm · 27/08/2025 13:44

Gosh how surprising that the same people are here doing all they can to defend Israel at any cost. One day I hope they wake up and feel shame.

Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:27

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:19

What evidence would you exactly expect the IDF to provide beyond naming the Hamas militants and having photographs of them. It's not like Hamas wear uniforms is it so either you believe the IDF that they were known to them as Hamas members or you don't.

You seem to have no trouble believing other things we have no hard evidence for just what Hamas report.

I thought it was quite obvious I was talking about the 'Hamas camera' which the IDF have used to justify bombing the hospital initially which murdered the Reuters journalist. Yet no evidence provided for it.

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Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:24

Thegreyhound · 27/08/2025 13:14

lets imagine that there were Hamas militants with rifles. Is it then ok to kill civilians including health workers and journalists? No
the argument about supposed militants only holds up anyway if you ignore the fact that Israel has repeatedly deliberately targeted health workers and journalists (and aid workers)

It's not that much of a stretch to imagine that they were Hamas militants with rifles, especially the one who participated in 7/10.

Is it then ok to kill civilians alongside Hamas members? No it's not "ok" but how else are the IDF to kill Hamas seeing as they are always positioning themselves alongside civilians around hospital sites, schools, mosques etc?

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:19

Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:12

Almost every news article i have read have highlighted the IDF have provided no evidence for their claim. As usual.

What evidence would you exactly expect the IDF to provide beyond naming the Hamas militants and having photographs of them. It's not like Hamas wear uniforms is it so either you believe the IDF that they were known to them as Hamas members or you don't.

You seem to have no trouble believing other things we have no hard evidence for just what Hamas report.

Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:17

Italian prime minister condemned the strike at the hospital just a short while ago.

Western allies who once supported Israel are now thinking WTF.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/italys-meloni-condemns-killing-journalists-gaza-by-israeli-fire-2025-08-27/q

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Thegreyhound · 27/08/2025 13:16

I’m old enough to remember a time when the Israeli government pretended they had bombed hospitals by accident

Thegreyhound · 27/08/2025 13:14

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:56

I only claimed the Hamas militants would have been carrying weapons no one else.

lets imagine that there were Hamas militants with rifles. Is it then ok to kill civilians including health workers and journalists? No
the argument about supposed militants only holds up anyway if you ignore the fact that Israel has repeatedly deliberately targeted health workers and journalists (and aid workers)

Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:12

They lie and lie and lie and lie.

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Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:12

Almost every news article i have read have highlighted the IDF have provided no evidence for their claim. As usual.

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Kakeandkake · 27/08/2025 13:11

Why wont the IDF show evidence of this 'Hamas camera'?

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Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 13:00

PaxAeterna · 27/08/2025 12:52

But the surveillance camera turned out to be Reuters.

Just to note that many people in Gaza have eSIMs. There has been a considered efforts by some NGOs to distribute them. The internet is lifesaving in Gaza - showing food aid, water access, keeping track of family and friends after bombings even getting evacuation notices.

Although it definitely isn’t the only place in all of Gaza with internet? Did you read in your “silly source” that it is the only place in Gaza city Perhaps.

We now have a He said/She said situation.

The IDF are claiming that the surveillance camera was being used by Hamas and they have intelligence to support that.

Reuters are claiming that the camera was just a general one that their journalist was using.

As things stand at the moment, we don't know which version of the truth is the correct one. Though as 6 Hamas members were killed in the blasts, that does suggest that it was at least a meeting point for Hamas.

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:56

GladioliGreen · 27/08/2025 12:54

They were the people who were killed. The people who rushed to help. The people you claim were carrying weapons.

From the same article:
Video footage taken by Al-Ghad TV shows the second strike hitting, causing a large boom and engulfing everyone on the staircase in smoke. Hospital officials say 18 people were killed in the second strike.

The military did not elaborate on why it struck a second time or how it would have identified militants among the crowd on the staircase.

I only claimed the Hamas militants would have been carrying weapons no one else.

GladioliGreen · 27/08/2025 12:54

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:46

I'm not talking about the health workers or journalists though am I? I'm talking about the 6 Hamas terrorists eliminated during the strike on Nasser hospital.

x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545

They were the people who were killed. The people who rushed to help. The people you claim were carrying weapons.

From the same article:
Video footage taken by Al-Ghad TV shows the second strike hitting, causing a large boom and engulfing everyone on the staircase in smoke. Hospital officials say 18 people were killed in the second strike.

The military did not elaborate on why it struck a second time or how it would have identified militants among the crowd on the staircase.

PaxAeterna · 27/08/2025 12:53

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:46

I'm not talking about the health workers or journalists though am I? I'm talking about the 6 Hamas terrorists eliminated during the strike on Nasser hospital.

x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545

I’m so confused about this argument. They cannot be seen on screen but the IDf are saying that these people were present and armed and that was their second target ?

PaxAeterna · 27/08/2025 12:52

Gloriia · 27/08/2025 12:28

Maybe numbers are being counted using the hamas method of whatever goes?

The problem here that some of you are so intent to sweep under the carpet is why do they have their surveillance ops n a hospital? Oh hang on it's the only place in gaza with the internet according to some silly media. Yet we've seen so much footage of everywhere including tunnels so that doesn't wash.

Why do these murderous terrorists hang out in such places do ask yourselves that. It's almost as if they want civilian casualties. Surely not..

But the surveillance camera turned out to be Reuters.

Just to note that many people in Gaza have eSIMs. There has been a considered efforts by some NGOs to distribute them. The internet is lifesaving in Gaza - showing food aid, water access, keeping track of family and friends after bombings even getting evacuation notices.

Although it definitely isn’t the only place in all of Gaza with internet? Did you read in your “silly source” that it is the only place in Gaza city Perhaps.

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:46

GladioliGreen · 27/08/2025 12:35

Health workers, journalists and relatives of patients then rushed up an external staircase to reach the site of the first blast. Photos taken from below showed at least 16 people gathered on the staircase, trying to help those hit. Among them were four men wearing the orange vests of emergency responders or health workers. No one on the staircase was seen holding weapons.

www.politico.com/news/2025/08/26/israeli-military-says-strikes-on-gaza-hospital-targeted-a-hamas-camera-without-providing-evidence-00527966

But you claim that 6 of them were obviously holding weapons then wonder why people think you are biased?

I'm not talking about the health workers or journalists though am I? I'm talking about the 6 Hamas terrorists eliminated during the strike on Nasser hospital.

x.com/IDF/status/1960364428786057545

PiggyPigalle · 27/08/2025 12:40

kirinm · 27/08/2025 11:30

Who is actively supporting Russia?

You seem to be confused. Israel only looks after itself.
There is no longer a difference in the vile actions of Hamas or Israel, or I should say the Israeli government, as the majority of Israelis no longer approve of their actions.
As for Russia and Hamas?

GladioliGreen · 27/08/2025 12:35

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:09

No outrage about that just a load of denials and comments like What makes you think they had rifles🙄

Yet I'm the biased one apparently. Because we shouldn't criticise Hamas only Israel - even the one who participated in 7/10 described above as "innocent".

Health workers, journalists and relatives of patients then rushed up an external staircase to reach the site of the first blast. Photos taken from below showed at least 16 people gathered on the staircase, trying to help those hit. Among them were four men wearing the orange vests of emergency responders or health workers. No one on the staircase was seen holding weapons.

www.politico.com/news/2025/08/26/israeli-military-says-strikes-on-gaza-hospital-targeted-a-hamas-camera-without-providing-evidence-00527966

But you claim that 6 of them were obviously holding weapons then wonder why people think you are biased?

Gloriia · 27/08/2025 12:31

Twiglets1 · 27/08/2025 12:23

Yes Isis were nice blokes too ... just watched the Shamima Begum Story yesterday actually.

Oh yes she was terribly misunderstood. Only helped sew people into suicide vests and laughed at heads in bins, what's wrong with that! They should bring her back and have her as special correspondent with Jeremy Bowen. I bet she'd say they were just journos taking selfies too.

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