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Conflict in the Middle East

It's not about genocide but about winning

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Mikkymik · 24/08/2025 12:36

Further to my reply in the (now full) famine thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5396637-a-famine-has-been-declared-in-gaza-city?page=40&reply=146639624

I should point out that in my above post I've accepted - for argument's sake - that Israel is committing war crimes in its mission to win.

What Israel is absolutely not doing nor is it intent on doing, is genocide. Israel's aim is to win, which means disarming of Gaza and the return of the hostages. Once that happens not one more Palestinian has to die. It's not about killing a people (genocide) but about winning at all costs.

And frankly, as I said, the onus is on Gaza to surrender, seeing as they started this futile war.

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theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 24/08/2025 12:55

Isn’t genocide part of the ultimate goal of winning?

I would say it is a means to that end.

Montysmoon · 24/08/2025 12:53

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TooBigForMyBoots · 24/08/2025 12:43

Israel is committing war crimes.
Israel is starving the people of Gaza.
Israel is arming Gazan jihadist militants responsible for the 7/10 attack.
Israel is committing genocide.

TulipLavender · 24/08/2025 12:42

Mikkymik · 24/08/2025 12:36

Further to my reply in the (now full) famine thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5396637-a-famine-has-been-declared-in-gaza-city?page=40&reply=146639624

I should point out that in my above post I've accepted - for argument's sake - that Israel is committing war crimes in its mission to win.

What Israel is absolutely not doing nor is it intent on doing, is genocide. Israel's aim is to win, which means disarming of Gaza and the return of the hostages. Once that happens not one more Palestinian has to die. It's not about killing a people (genocide) but about winning at all costs.

And frankly, as I said, the onus is on Gaza to surrender, seeing as they started this futile war.

Ok so explain what is happening in the West Bank then?

The Knesset passed a resolution to annex the west bank.

Its about having the whole land and remaining a Jewish state. The only way to achieve that is ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.

Cadenza12 · 24/08/2025 12:42

Israel has kept it's agenda in plain sight from the off. Genocide is the result, so what else can it be?

SaltAirAndTheRust · 24/08/2025 12:38

Yet near two years into the war, Israel still claims that Gaza is under total Hamas control. So all those civilians have been killed for no reason whatsoever.

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