Gazan GHF workers left to die at hospital where Doctors Without Borders is.

I have read your post a couple of times and I genuinely can't work it out. Could you elaborate more?

Yes indeed, it does appear Israel has the prerogative to do as it wishes over the lives of the poor Palestinians. As an occupying force, it has done so for some time.

Shame it dismantled a U.N. distribution procedure that worked extremely well and people are now dying/

I would imagine that the European donor countries don’t wish to be named due to the risk of public outrage from pro-Palestinians that they are funding the GHF, which is currently the only mechanism in place to get FREE aid to Palestinians.

That is in itself testament to the contradictory narrative on this conflict.

You really can’t think of a plausible reason for the diversion of most of the UN aid by armed groups, the delay in distributing it inside Gaza with tonnes left rotting waiting to be picked up with an apparent famine imminent, and the efforts to discredit the GHF for providing free aid, since the GHF started providing free aid that is not controlled by Hamas?

Hamas which is on its last legs and doesn’t have much left to use as a weapon?

It doesn’t take much much to work it out.

I would imagine that the European donor countries don’t wish to be named due to the risk of public outrage from pro-Palestinians that they are funding the GHF, which is currently the only mechanism in place to get FREE aid to Palestinians.

That is in itself testament to the contradictory narrative on this conflict.

You really can’t think of a plausible reason for the diversion of most of the UN aid by armed groups, the delay in distributing it inside Gaza with tonnes left rotting waiting to be picked up with an apparent famine imminent, and the efforts to discredit the GHF for providing free aid, since the GHF started providing free aid that is not controlled by Hamas?

Hamas which is on its last legs and doesn’t have much left to use as a weapon?

It doesn’t take much much to work it out.

In addition @Stripes56 I'm sure the Israel government knows the details of the GHF donors so whether that information is known to the public is irrelevant. They will have been vetted.

The NGOs have the right not to share the data on their sponsors or staff which they are exercising, (at some cost to the Gazans needing the aid).

Yet nearly 20 organisations have completed the registration process on their donors and staff, and are bringing aid into Gaza according to the BBC. Roughly 300 trucks of aid are entering Gaza each day now, though granted it's still not enough.

NGOs have the right not to do what Israel requires for the their security but equally, Israel has the right to deny them entry if they don't.

Yes I heard it on the BBC radio. But the save the children website also goes on to talk about

“NGOs have made clear that sharing such data is unlawful (including under relevant data protection laws), unsafe, and incompatible with humanitarian principles. In the deadliest context for aid workers worldwide, where 98 percent of those humanitarians killed were Palestinian, NGOs have no guarantees that handing over such information would not put staff at further risk, or be used to advance the government of Israel's stated military and political aims.

Today, INGOs’ fears have proven true: the registration system is now being used to further block aid and deny food and medicine in the midst of the worst-case scenario of famine.”

Prior to Israel’s blockade, very little UN aid being siphoned off by Hamas according to Israeli sources. It had been working very effectively. This should not have been dismantled.

www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

But ultimately-it’s a balance of getting aid to starving people or not. Israel is preferring not to prioritise aid getting in

You know the GHF have not provided full details of their donors to the public either.

Oh you heard that did you?

What has censoring independent reporting got to do with it?

Aid agencies wanting to operate in Gaza are now obliged to disclose donor details and complete lists of Palestinian staff for security vetting.

It's because Israel don't trust them not to employ staff who are affiliated with Hamas and tbh, that seems reasonable to me. The organisations seem to care more about data protection than getting aid into Gaza. But the IDF are fighting a war against Hamas so no, they don't want Hamas supporters involved in the delivery of aid.

They don’t have adequate pain relief for children with burns. Did you see video linked from Al Jaazera showing the circumstances around which medical care is being provided?

It would good if we could get independent journalists there, but in their absence- I have no compunctions in going with MSF’s statement. They are the ones trying to deliver medical care in extremely horrific circumstances.

I would have thought with a doctor's training they could have done something to help wouldn't you? Some basic medical care.

Though they would also have needed to be moved to a hospital with an emergency department.

I heard the information being asked for is intrusive.

“INGOs warned the process was designed to control independent organisations, silence advocacy, and censor humanitarian reporting.”

According to Save the Children

I think this is the crux of the matter isn’t it?
The continued delay and difficulties in aid being delivered may also play into some Knesset members goals

I would have thought with a doctor's training they could have done something to help wouldn't you? Some basic medical care.

Though they would also have needed to be moved to a hospital with an emergency department.

I was replying to a post where you tagged me and had not noticed that you had already conceded the point to another poster.

But pragmatically, the MSF might as well not have been there is there as no doctor able to treat a critically ill adult

If you want to get aid into a country bad enough then you fill out all necessary forms and allow your staff to be vetted.

It's not an unreasonable request in the circumstances of this war.

and you choose not to quote were I corrected myself?

The aid agencies have said that the Israeli vetting procedures are too politicised, which would not surprise me.

Can you name me an aid agency that has not been castigated as antisemitic for raising concerns about what is happening in Gaza and the WB? You’ve caste doubts now about MSF as potentially not being impartial?

It's just odd that you in one post acknowledge that MSF said they were not providing the type of services to treat critically ill adults but in another post today you say One part or the GHF claim has already been debunked- Doctors Without Borders were not there.

But the MSF have said that there were not the type of services there able to treat critically ill adults.
They also predicted adults would die due to the targeting of Nasser Hospital.