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UEFA have finally taken a stand

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LifeOfAShowGirl · 13/08/2025 20:15

https://x.com/uefa/status/1955706670824235327?s=46

A mild, late, spineless stand. But a stand. It makes me wonder how much longer this can go on before governments realise people are fed up of this.

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MyNameIsX · 18/08/2025 14:52

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:50

Isn’t this story from years ago?

No, its being reported now.

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:52

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:50

Isn’t this story from years ago?

It's just happened it's all over the msm.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:51

MyNameIsX · 18/08/2025 14:48

The BBC has admitted that a Gazan woman it claimed died of malnutrition was being treated for cancer.

The broadcaster reported over the weekend that the 20-year-old, identified as Marah Abu Zuhri, died after she was evacuated to Italy for treatment while “severely emaciated”.

However, the Israeli military unit in charge of aid, known as the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (Cogat), claimed shortly afterwards that she had actually suffered from leukaemia.

The corporation was accused of spreading “shocking misinformation” with the story, which was updated on Sunday to reflect the patient’s condition.
Following the criticism, the BBC issued a statement saying: “We were not initially aware that Marah Abu Zuhri was being treated for leukaemia.

What does this ultimately change? The BBC has corrected the story. Israel has still created a man-made famine in Gaza. Are all the children and babies who have died of malnutrition so far not enough for you? Or the infants who’ve died because they were denied medical evacuation?

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:50

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:47

Why should I not engage with you? We’re on a public forum are we not? Although I’ve found it very strange that the same users post very frequently, whereas I usually take breaks for a few hours or days.

So what, what does it matter if you have a break/name change and others post more. What is the point of that comment?

I've been here since 2pm just having a late lunch. That ok? Should I clock off until what, 7pm?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:50

MyNameIsX · 18/08/2025 14:48

The BBC has admitted that a Gazan woman it claimed died of malnutrition was being treated for cancer.

The broadcaster reported over the weekend that the 20-year-old, identified as Marah Abu Zuhri, died after she was evacuated to Italy for treatment while “severely emaciated”.

However, the Israeli military unit in charge of aid, known as the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (Cogat), claimed shortly afterwards that she had actually suffered from leukaemia.

The corporation was accused of spreading “shocking misinformation” with the story, which was updated on Sunday to reflect the patient’s condition.
Following the criticism, the BBC issued a statement saying: “We were not initially aware that Marah Abu Zuhri was being treated for leukaemia.

Isn’t this story from years ago?

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MyNameIsX · 18/08/2025 14:48

The BBC has admitted that a Gazan woman it claimed died of malnutrition was being treated for cancer.

The broadcaster reported over the weekend that the 20-year-old, identified as Marah Abu Zuhri, died after she was evacuated to Italy for treatment while “severely emaciated”.

However, the Israeli military unit in charge of aid, known as the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (Cogat), claimed shortly afterwards that she had actually suffered from leukaemia.

The corporation was accused of spreading “shocking misinformation” with the story, which was updated on Sunday to reflect the patient’s condition.
Following the criticism, the BBC issued a statement saying: “We were not initially aware that Marah Abu Zuhri was being treated for leukaemia.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:47

Dangermoo · 18/08/2025 14:40

You're not alone. Something not adding up there.

Why should I not engage with you? We’re on a public forum are we not? Although I’ve found it very strange that the same users post very frequently, whereas I usually take breaks for a few hours or days.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:41

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:35

Please for your sanity <and mine> do stop quoting me. Seriously it's enough now, you've said you won't engage with me but do so constantly, you critique my posting. I know I know it's difficult when someone disagrees and successfully challenges you but just ignore me rather than bother with these tellings off.

Meant kindly before you report me.

Also- “Successfully challenges you”… you mean disagrees with facts 😅🤣

Dangermoo · 18/08/2025 14:40

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:35

Please for your sanity <and mine> do stop quoting me. Seriously it's enough now, you've said you won't engage with me but do so constantly, you critique my posting. I know I know it's difficult when someone disagrees and successfully challenges you but just ignore me rather than bother with these tellings off.

Meant kindly before you report me.

You're not alone. Something not adding up there.

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:39

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:33

This is not a war.

It is a war. Like Syria, like Yemen.

How many were killed in Yemen do you know? An estimated 377000. caat.org.uk/homepage/stop-arming-saudi-arabia/the-war-on-yemens-civilians/

People just don't seem as bothered unless it's Israel in the conflict. Why do you think that is?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:38

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:35

Please for your sanity <and mine> do stop quoting me. Seriously it's enough now, you've said you won't engage with me but do so constantly, you critique my posting. I know I know it's difficult when someone disagrees and successfully challenges you but just ignore me rather than bother with these tellings off.

Meant kindly before you report me.

I’m not engaging to pick on you personally. I’m responding because misinformation is being spread about the deaths of children, the starvation, and the blockade. These are real, documented events. This isn’t about you, it’s about facts and I refuse to let misinformation and pro-Netanyahu propoganda be continuously spread.

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:35

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:25

Anyway, @Gloriia I genuinely struggle to follow your posts. The way you present things actively undermines any pro-Israel argument.

Please for your sanity <and mine> do stop quoting me. Seriously it's enough now, you've said you won't engage with me but do so constantly, you critique my posting. I know I know it's difficult when someone disagrees and successfully challenges you but just ignore me rather than bother with these tellings off.

Meant kindly before you report me.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:33

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:30

Please c&p where I have said children's deaths are justified.

What I have said is sadly in a war there will be casualties. We've seen it in other places have you heard of Yemen? Syria? The problem is in gaza the terrorists hide among the civilians therefore they increase the civilian deaths. It's awful isn't it. You'd think like Israel they'd want to protect their people but nope.

We should all join together and make a banner saying 'end the conflict' or 'fuck hamas'?

The hostages though, irrelevant you said?

This is not a war.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:32

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:30

Please c&p where I have said children's deaths are justified.

What I have said is sadly in a war there will be casualties. We've seen it in other places have you heard of Yemen? Syria? The problem is in gaza the terrorists hide among the civilians therefore they increase the civilian deaths. It's awful isn't it. You'd think like Israel they'd want to protect their people but nope.

We should all join together and make a banner saying 'end the conflict' or 'fuck hamas'?

The hostages though, irrelevant you said?

These actions: targeting civilians, bombing hospitals and schools, starving entire populations, and killing children, are not just tragic consequences of war. They constitute clear violations of international law and are considered war crimes and potential crimes against humanity.

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:30

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:23

Do you retract your disgusting statements around children’s deaths being justified?

Please c&p where I have said children's deaths are justified.

What I have said is sadly in a war there will be casualties. We've seen it in other places have you heard of Yemen? Syria? The problem is in gaza the terrorists hide among the civilians therefore they increase the civilian deaths. It's awful isn't it. You'd think like Israel they'd want to protect their people but nope.

We should all join together and make a banner saying 'end the conflict' or 'fuck hamas'?

The hostages though, irrelevant you said?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:29

Twiglets1 · 18/08/2025 14:26

The cabinet decision states that Palestinians will have until October 7, 2025, to evacuate Gaza City — a two-month window that also coincides with the second anniversary of Hamas’s attack on Israel, the Israeli official said. The IDF will then launch its ground offensive into Gaza City, placing a siege on the area in order to kill any remaining Hamas operatives.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bucking-idf-warnings-security-cabinet-approves-netanyahus-plan-to-conquer-gaza-city/

Actually, Israel has already launched its ground offensive in Gaza City. I guess I know that because I rely on a range of credible sources, not just ‘The Times Israel.’

Twiglets1 · 18/08/2025 14:26

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:16

This is a misleading statement:

“Netanyhu is so keen to end the war he has recently given Hamas a timescale they absolutely have to do it by - 7th October or he takes Gaza City.”

Israel has already been taking Gaza City. Netanyahu hasn’t given Hamas a timescale starting 7th October; the military push there has been ongoing since the war began.

Sending threats of total destruction isn’t the same as wanting a ceasefire or peace. If Netanyahu truly wanted the war to end, he wouldn’t repeatedly break agreements, block aid, or prolong the blockade that’s starving civilians.

The cabinet decision states that Palestinians will have until October 7, 2025, to evacuate Gaza City — a two-month window that also coincides with the second anniversary of Hamas’s attack on Israel, the Israeli official said. The IDF will then launch its ground offensive into Gaza City, placing a siege on the area in order to kill any remaining Hamas operatives.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/bucking-idf-warnings-security-cabinet-approves-netanyahus-plan-to-conquer-gaza-city/

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:25

Anyway, @Gloriia I genuinely struggle to follow your posts. The way you present things actively undermines any pro-Israel argument.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:23

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:12

Hamas started it.

Blaming Israel is appalling I'd ask for that to be deleted if I were you. Mind we have the op saying hostages weren't relevant so I won't hold my breath.

Multiple credible reports show Israeli intelligence knew about the October 7 attacks well in advance but failed to act. So no, it’s not accurate to say Hamas ‘started’ the war unilaterally. It’s also not inaccurate to say that Israel’s inaction contributed directly to the massacre.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:23

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:22

You can't help engaging with us. Nor can another poster who sniffily said they would NOT engage with me yet quotes me constantly.

You said the hostages are irrelevant. Do you retract that?

Do you retract your disgusting statements around children’s deaths being justified?

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Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:22

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:20

I just refuse to engage with them sincerely after they’ve said that they’re against messages calling for children to not be killed.

You can't help engaging with us. Nor can another poster who sniffily said they would NOT engage with me yet quotes me constantly.

You said the hostages are irrelevant. Do you retract that?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 14:20

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:19

You can deny reality, facts and verified evidence all you like- it doesn't make it go away. People have already woken up to the reality on the ground. I just hope you can handle the cognitive dissonance that hits you when all of this comes out.

I just refuse to engage with them sincerely after they’ve said that they’re against messages calling for children to not be killed.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:19

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You can deny reality, facts and verified evidence all you like- it doesn't make it go away. People have already woken up to the reality on the ground. I just hope you can handle the cognitive dissonance that hits you when all of this comes out.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/08/2025 14:16

This is a misleading statement:

“Netanyhu is so keen to end the war he has recently given Hamas a timescale they absolutely have to do it by - 7th October or he takes Gaza City.”

Israel has already been taking Gaza City. Netanyahu hasn’t given Hamas a timescale starting 7th October; the military push there has been ongoing since the war began.

Sending threats of total destruction isn’t the same as wanting a ceasefire or peace. If Netanyahu truly wanted the war to end, he wouldn’t repeatedly break agreements, block aid, or prolong the blockade that’s starving civilians.

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 14:15

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I hope so Grin

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