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UEFA have finally taken a stand

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LifeOfAShowGirl · 13/08/2025 20:15

https://x.com/uefa/status/1955706670824235327?s=46

A mild, late, spineless stand. But a stand. It makes me wonder how much longer this can go on before governments realise people are fed up of this.

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LifeOfAShowGirl · 18/08/2025 08:07

Gloriia · 18/08/2025 08:04

'Why must they be balanced with messages about freeing the hostages? 20,000 children have been killed. There’s about 20 or so hostages.'

Every life matters. No one is irrelevant despite what the op has said.

Again anti war messages are good, we can all agree with that but they must relate to all victims and this silly 'ah well if you think a 'stop killing children' banner is aimed at the IDF then ha you've revealed who the villains are!' Is desperate and not true as we all know. However, that is clearly what the football player thinks so qatar funded uefa have only parroted his beliefs.

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That’s not what Salah said at all. Strange that you don’t think the hostages are civilians?

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Gloriia · 18/08/2025 08:04

'Why must they be balanced with messages about freeing the hostages? 20,000 children have been killed. There’s about 20 or so hostages.'

Every life matters. No one is irrelevant despite what the op has said.

Again anti war messages are good, we can all agree with that but they must relate to all victims and this silly 'ah well if you think a 'stop killing children' banner is aimed at the IDF then ha you've revealed who the villains are!' Is desperate and not true as we all know. However, that is clearly what the football player thinks so qatar funded uefa have only parroted his beliefs.

justanotherpassword · 18/08/2025 02:45

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 22:05

Glad you're finding it entertaining.

For the trillionth time stop war massages are fine and lovely but they must be balanced so those hostages that you have said are irrelevant should also have been mentioned by the uefa primed by that <checks notes> 'face of the premiership' Mr Saleh.

Why must they be balanced with messages about freeing the hostages? 20,000 children have been killed. There’s about 20 or so hostages.

Netanyahu himself doesn’t care about the hostages. Families are begging him to end the war and get them released but domination across the Middle East and expanding Israel’s territories are more important to him.

Why is an Israeli life more important than a Palestinian life? What about the hostages that Israel keeps in prisioned without ever seeing the light of day? Without even being actually convicted of anything? What about those people?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 22:15

Also while you’re claiming that this was a targetted attack against Israel, because Tottenham have Jewish links in their history, Israeli citizens are now protesting against this war. But I guess they must also be anti semitic too?

Palestinians flee IDF attacks on Gaza City as Israelis protest against occupation plan https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2018wx3zlgo

Israeli protesters are dragged away while blocking a major highway amid nationwide strike in Jerusalem on 17 August 2025.

Gaza City: Palestinians flee IDF attacks as Israelis protest against occupation plan

Israeli bombardment has created a "catastrophic" situation in the city's Zeitoun neighbourhood, the city's Hamas-run authority says.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2018wx3zlgo

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LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 22:06

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 22:05

Glad you're finding it entertaining.

For the trillionth time stop war massages are fine and lovely but they must be balanced so those hostages that you have said are irrelevant should also have been mentioned by the uefa primed by that <checks notes> 'face of the premiership' Mr Saleh.

Where in the words “civilians” and “children” are hostages excluded?

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Gloriia · 17/08/2025 22:05

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 21:58

Exactly. It’s actually kind of entertaining watching them spinning themselves in knots trying to explain why “stop killing children” is a targeted message that we should be angry about.

Glad you're finding it entertaining.

For the trillionth time stop war massages are fine and lovely but they must be balanced so those hostages that you have said are irrelevant should also have been mentioned by the uefa primed by that <checks notes> 'face of the premiership' Mr Saleh.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 21:58

GladioliGreen · 17/08/2025 21:58

I don't think people realise how much shit like this turns people off the pro Israel cause. When people see them bitching and whining because of a banner that reads 'stop killing children' it just makes people think what is wrong with you?

In no other conflict would a banner like this cause controversy because it isn't a controversial thing to say. The very thought that people feel for Palestinian children seems to drive some people wild and that is what makes people realise that this isn't about Hamas, it isn't about people fearing for Israels safety, it's about hate.

Exactly. It’s actually kind of entertaining watching them spinning themselves in knots trying to explain why “stop killing children” is a targeted message that we should be angry about.

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GladioliGreen · 17/08/2025 21:58

I don't think people realise how much shit like this turns people off the pro Israel cause. When people see them bitching and whining because of a banner that reads 'stop killing children' it just makes people think what is wrong with you?

In no other conflict would a banner like this cause controversy because it isn't a controversial thing to say. The very thought that people feel for Palestinian children seems to drive some people wild and that is what makes people realise that this isn't about Hamas, it isn't about people fearing for Israels safety, it's about hate.

MyNameIsX · 17/08/2025 16:40

Dangermoo · 17/08/2025 16:30

The wording was as deliberately selected, as the match. Lead with "killing children" - designed to have maximum impact. They aren't fooling everyone. Reading some of those tweets, was interesting.

Absolutely.

They may as well have said ‘killing babies’, but Hamas already stole that line on 7/10/23, of course.

Dangermoo · 17/08/2025 16:30

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 16:12

You said that 'farewell' was bland. I included the rest of the quote which isn't bland.

Alleged causes of death aren't usually included in tributes from organisations. Usually a brief statement suffices. But nope, 'the face of premier football' saleh decided not and we then got the 2 banners, but no mention of the hostages which is very unacceptable no matter how irrelevant you think they are.

The wording was as deliberately selected, as the match. Lead with "killing children" - designed to have maximum impact. They aren't fooling everyone. Reading some of those tweets, was interesting.

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 16:12

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 15:35

He was murdered while trying to get aid. You don’t see why that’s not an important thing to say?

You said that 'farewell' was bland. I included the rest of the quote which isn't bland.

Alleged causes of death aren't usually included in tributes from organisations. Usually a brief statement suffices. But nope, 'the face of premier football' saleh decided not and we then got the 2 banners, but no mention of the hostages which is very unacceptable no matter how irrelevant you think they are.

Dangermoo · 17/08/2025 15:50

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:19

Salah did not tell them what to say at all. UEFA posted an absurdly pathetic tweet saying “farewell”. No mention of the fact he was shot dead while getting aid. Salah said “can you tell us how he died, where and why?”. That’s all. No mention of Israel killing children or civilians.

Well, to use your words, UEFA "doesn't have to speak out" and expand on their farewell tweet.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 15:35

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 15:34

'Bland'?

“Farewell to Suleiman al-Obaid, the 'Palestinian Pele'. A talent who gave hope to countless children, even in the darkest of time"

More than just farewell? Granted they didn't list the cause of death but that is normal.

He was murdered while trying to get aid. You don’t see why that’s not an important thing to say?

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Gloriia · 17/08/2025 15:34

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 15:23

“Farewell” is about as bland as you can get when someone has been murdered.

'Bland'?

“Farewell to Suleiman al-Obaid, the 'Palestinian Pele'. A talent who gave hope to countless children, even in the darkest of time"

More than just farewell? Granted they didn't list the cause of death but that is normal.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 15:23

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:22

Does uefa usually provide cause of death, location and background to tragic deaths? I thought that was a coroner's role?

“Farewell” is about as bland as you can get when someone has been murdered.

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MyNameIsX · 17/08/2025 15:23

And yet there is never any criticism of how the various Arab states treat the Palestinians.

Funny that.

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:22

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:19

Salah did not tell them what to say at all. UEFA posted an absurdly pathetic tweet saying “farewell”. No mention of the fact he was shot dead while getting aid. Salah said “can you tell us how he died, where and why?”. That’s all. No mention of Israel killing children or civilians.

Does uefa usually provide cause of death, location and background to tragic deaths? I thought that was a coroner's role?

Dangermoo · 17/08/2025 14:21

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:19

'He doesn’t have to speak out'

What? You've just said it's a good thing he speaks out? - 'The fact he’s speaking out for Palestine is an added bonus'. Which is it?

The question is why did he selectively speak out? We know you think the hostages are irrelevant and maybe he does too but most people don't.

Shame he can't speak out to call for his fellow Egyptians to open their border. When I said that before, I was told why should he?!

Dangermoo · 17/08/2025 14:20

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:06

Mo Salah is the face of the premier league, like it or not. The fact he’s speaking out for Palestine is an added bonus.

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He's of absolutely no significance to me. For one thing, I can't stand the club he plays for and another - he is not God. I think you will find that was Pele.

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:19

'He doesn’t have to speak out'

What? You've just said it's a good thing he speaks out? - 'The fact he’s speaking out for Palestine is an added bonus'. Which is it?

The question is why did he selectively speak out? We know you think the hostages are irrelevant and maybe he does too but most people don't.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:19

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:14

I look at it that way because saleh has told them what to say? It isn't rocket science as you've just said his Premier league face has spoken out for gaza so think we can work out where it came from.

Salah did not tell them what to say at all. UEFA posted an absurdly pathetic tweet saying “farewell”. No mention of the fact he was shot dead while getting aid. Salah said “can you tell us how he died, where and why?”. That’s all. No mention of Israel killing children or civilians.

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Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:14

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:11

If you really think a statement saying “stop killing children” and “stop killing civilians” is a targeted harassment of Israel, maybe look at why you think that way?

I look at it that way because saleh has told them what to say? It isn't rocket science as you've just said his Premier league face has spoken out for gaza so think we can work out where it came from.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:14

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:12

'Face of Premier league' Grin. Be nice if he spoke out for the hostages too, you know using his Premier league face?

He doesn’t have to speak out. Minimising his accomplishments because you don’t like his stance on this is quite strange though

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Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:12

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:06

Mo Salah is the face of the premier league, like it or not. The fact he’s speaking out for Palestine is an added bonus.

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'Face of Premier league' Grin. Be nice if he spoke out for the hostages too, you know using his Premier league face?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 17/08/2025 14:11

Gloriia · 17/08/2025 14:08

No but we know they were pressured by salah who obviously thinks that. It's really not a gotcha moment.

They've jusy made tits of themselves really. But as we've said what can you expect from a football organisation.

If you really think a statement saying “stop killing children” and “stop killing civilians” is a targeted harassment of Israel, maybe look at why you think that way?

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