UEFA have finally taken a stand

The hostages could have been released by now. Israel have not attempted to get them released because they know that the hostages are their justification for the genocide.

Call it naive if you like, but the facts are brutal: 18,000+ children dead, nearly 2 million civilians starving, hospitals and schools destroyed. This isn’t political theatre, it’s documented human suffering. Reality doesn’t care about your cynicism.

Thank goodness none of us will ever have to spend nearly two years being bombed with the equivalent of 8 Hiroshima bombs, with food and aid weaponised against us, hospitals, schools, and ambulances destroyed, hundreds of journalists killed, and entire families wiped off the registry. In Gaza, 37.7% of the population of children has been killed- compare that to 0.3% in Ukraine.

As long as the hostages exist inside Gaza, Israel can justify even more death and destruction. They’re actually incentivised not to bring their hostages back because then Netanyahu would lose power. Release the hostages is not a good faith argument, it’s a classic Israeli talking point to shift the blame to Palestinians and ignore the fact that Israel has had plenty of chances to get their hostages back without committing genocide.

If you’re going to exploit the plight of the hostages to make a point, don’t be surprised when people come back to you.

You do seem to be able to predict everything though, so can I have the Euromillions numbers for tomorrow night please?

A bit crass, comparing the two situations for one upmanship. I did predict it, though.

Thank goodness none of us will ever have to spend nearly two years being bombed with the equivalent of 8 Hiroshima bombs, with food and aid weaponised against us, hospitals, schools, and ambulances destroyed, hundreds of journalists killed, and entire families wiped off the registry. In Gaza, 37.7% of the population of children has been killed- compare that to 0.3% in Ukraine.

As long as the hostages exist inside Gaza, Israel can justify even more death and destruction. They’re actually incentivised not to bring their hostages back because then Netanyahu would lose power. Release the hostages is not a good faith argument, it’s a classic Israeli talking point to shift the blame to Palestinians and ignore the fact that Israel has had plenty of chances to get their hostages back without committing genocide.

This reminds me of the line in the Godfather, when Kate says "Presidents don't around having people killed". Ms Munroe says hello. So naive.

Thank goodness none of us will ever have to spend nigh on two years, being imprisoned in a tunnel, being forced to dig our own grave. I suppose it's easy to be blasé about the hostages' plight and talk about it being boring or insignificant, when you aren't in their shoes.

It’s not manipulation when these are documented, verifiable human tragedies- it’s reality. And cynicism doesn’t make the suffering any less real.

It also highlights how some people conflate humanitarian outrage with political agendas, rather than seeing the real, documented suffering on the ground.

Do you really think 18,000+ children needed to be killed? Do you think nearly 2 million civilians need to be starved?

Palestine Action - the pensioner Intifada.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very naive I think. But some are way more cynical than us and they are the ones using emotive language relentlessly.

Palestine Action - the pensioner Intifada.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very naive I think. But some are way more cynical than us and they are the ones using emotive language relentlessly.

Palestine Action - the pensioner Intifada.

Unfortunately a lot of people are very naive I think. But some are way more cynical than us and they are the ones using emotive language relentlessly.

It’s not manipulation when these are documented, verifiable human tragedies- it’s reality. And cynicism doesn’t make the suffering any less real.

It also highlights how some people conflate humanitarian outrage with political agendas, rather than seeing the real, documented suffering on the ground.

Do you really think 18,000+ children needed to be killed? Do you think nearly 2 million civilians need to be starved?

Muslim brotherhood? Now if I’d made a comment like that about Jewish people I’d be called anti semetic before I could blink.

I agree. I also don't believe any adults can be as woefully naive, when it comes to discussing how terrorists and their benefactors, operate. Then again, seeing the amount of support Palestine Action Group is getting, explains a lot.

Emotional manipulation is childishly easy to spot. Some on here may be victims of it but some are cynically using it as a technique themselves.

I was going to say this but couldn’t be bothered for the backlash. But yes, a lot of the conversation seems to stray into this sort of territory

Emotional manipulation is childishly easy to spot. Some on here may be victims of it but some are cynically using it as a technique themselves.

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How on earth people can see this and say that this is about the hostages, I do not know. Even the families of hostages are now protesting their government because they know they don’t want the release of the hostages to happen.

Why are you angry they didn't do it sooner? Were you expecting a football association to get involved, one way or another? If this was about one dead footballer, an image of his photo and a testimony would have been appropriate, at the match. It isn't about that though, it's being controlled by arabs and their billions. I repeat, once again, its about the Muslim Brotherhood.