Israeli security cabinet expected to approve Gaza takeover plan

No of course I wouldn’t. That sounds incredibly dangerous. You’d be sitting ducks.

https://x.com/JewishWarrior13/status/1954231073048580212

"GAZA UPDATE: The Saudi Al-Sharq channel reported that the mediators are holding intensive talks with Israel and Hams - in an attempt to reach an agreement before a full Israeli invasion of Gaza City. According to sources, the talks involve a package of proposals to end the war and a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip - in exchange for the release of all Israeli hostages, disarmament of all armed factions, the expulsion of some of the leaders of Hams' military wing abroad, and the establishment of a technocrat administration to control the Strip, with the assistance of a professional police mechanism."

We can hopefully all agree that this would be a really good outcome at this point in time.

I am merely making the point that absolutely none of us would happily wave our children, husbands and fathers goodbye and tell them to help the IDF as much as they can. We all know what would happen to them. It would be an absolutely heartbreaking decision to make in order to save younger children. And many others would simply not go: Talking about dividing families up in this way is always wrong.

What would it matter what Hamas say?

If we look to the West Bank 16 year olds can be prosecuted in a military court as an adult. Only the Palestinians of course.

So would you happily wave goodbye to your teenage son and tell him to help out the IDF?

Aren’t they children up to age 19?

Hamas says so.

Blimey
Sacrifice all male members to the IDF. No I bloody wouldn't

Don’t you read anything about what happens to Palestinians at the hands of the IDF. Don’t you read anything about rape and torture in Israeli jails.

Madness

You go run for it though

Would you leave your teenage sons behind?

ah yes, I remember something similar happening in Srebrenica.

Ah I see you are expecting women and children to leave their husbands, brothers, fathers and sons and travel to a new country alone?

Would make a change from the men abandoning them to bugger off to Europe I suppose.

If Egypt were to allow Palestinians fleeing from the slaughter across their borders, what is to say that Israel wouldn’t use it as a reason to bomb those fleeing? They bombed Lebanon didn’t they to target Palestinians there didn’t they? They also killed lots of people with their exploding phones. I think people are right to be wary.

You've very much misunderstood. The Lebanon bombings and pagers were against Hezbollah, a terrorist organisation that has ruined Lenanon, and just been banned there.

They weren't targeted because they were Palestinian. They were targeted because they were firing missiles at Israel.

People's blind hatred of Israel does start to make sense if this is the level of factual understanding.

Absolutely I would flee to prevent my children being used as human sacrifices for Hamas who deliberately brought this war upon them.

I’d tell my husband and brothers to give themselves up and help Israel in any way they could to get rid of the terrorists who brought destruction to my home.

Wouldn’t you?

Do you know anything about Hezbollah in Lebanon and what they were doing?

Hmmm lots of people with exploding phones rather indicates you don’t.

Ah I see you are expecting women and children to leave their husbands, brothers, fathers and sons and travel to a new country alone? I don’t think I’d do that.

If Egypt were to allow Palestinians fleeing from the slaughter across their borders, what is to say that Israel wouldn’t use it as a reason to bomb those fleeing? They bombed Lebanon didn’t they to target Palestinians there didn’t they? They also killed lots of people with their exploding phones. I think people are right to be wary.

Has there been any political pressure on Egypt to open its borders? I may have missed it.

Mosab Hassan Yousef actually gave a good example of what could be done to get them to open the borders in a recent interview. It’s is pretty extreme but I do agree that extreme measures should have been taken to save thousands of civilian lives seeing as Egypt don’t seem to care too much about their fellow Egyptians Arabs because keeping them in Gaza to die suits them politically.

The IRA were not the only terrorist group? Loyalists were responsible more civilian death and the British security forces also killed civilians and colluded with paramilitaries. The problem has more to it than “the IRA”.

But anyway despite the fact that they themselves see themselves in each other, I agree that they are different. It was a very conflict, low level in comparison. The British government were positively saintly compared to the Israeli government and no paramilitary group targeted civilians on the same scale.

But there are lessons from the Good Friday Agreement anyway. Of course there are. It’s a blue print for other peace agreements.