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Palestine Action demo 9 August

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Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 09:35

To my amazement, last night I discovered that some posters on MN think that "radical Islam" means simply "Muslim" 😬

I wonder if this explains why so many are unconcerned about who might be pulling the strings behind the "peace" rallies that were first organised on 7 October? Do they know what radical Islam is, how powerful it is, that it is widely acknowledged as the greatest threat to UK national security, that its intentions are clearly stated, that it is 10000000% different than simply observing Muslim faith?

Palestine Action are planning a rally in central London on Saturday and hope to overwhelm the police presence. Is anyone concerned about this? I'm worried that the seeds of civil unrest are being sown, without it being entirely clear who is sowing them.

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-palestine-action-protest-b1241347.html

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Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 11:04

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 11:01

You're looking at this through the lens of westerners, protesting on the streets, to stop a humanitarian crisis. Who do you think is behind PAG? I'm not saying it's as simple as rolling out Sharia law across Europe, but I believe there still remains a mission for Islamic dominance - not by moderate Muslims. It's what happened in the ME centuries ago. The problem is, you're then told you're being islamophobic - which is exactly what pro pals do, at the same time as complaining they are wrongfully accused of antisemitism.

That is a lot of words for a yes or no answer.

So the group has nothing to do with stopping the slaughter of Palestinians just introducing Sharia Law.
(Did the tell the non Muslim members that?, seems they are being hoodwinked into thinking it's about not killing children)

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 11:03

MissyB1 · 06/08/2025 10:55

No I’m not. Like I said I’m much more scared of the “we hate immigrants/refugees /asylum seekers” mob. Remember Southport?

I hope you also remember that, if we ever go to war. You are minimising the tampering of UK aircraft and that is worrying. The government took it very seriously and it should tell you everything, by how quickly PAG went on the terrorist list.

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 11:01

AzurePanda · 06/08/2025 10:48

@Martymcfly24 in the case of the US protests it was the same tent and coordinated water bottles and food deliveries en masse etc. Who’s funding it? Well it’s a shame nobody seems interested enough to try and find out.

Same tents and water bottles...oh my God seriously.

I'm sure if Trump wanted to find out he could. After all he brought in a law the other night that states that boycott Israel would not get funding for disasters (changed his mind quickly about that one.) . Now thats a lot more worrying than some water bottles

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 11:01

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:56

Palestine Actions aim is to introduce Sharia Law in Britain, correct?

You're looking at this through the lens of westerners, protesting on the streets, to stop a humanitarian crisis. Who do you think is behind PAG? I'm not saying it's as simple as rolling out Sharia law across Europe, but I believe there still remains a mission for Islamic dominance - not by moderate Muslims. It's what happened in the ME centuries ago. The problem is, you're then told you're being islamophobic - which is exactly what pro pals do, at the same time as complaining they are wrongfully accused of antisemitism.

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:57

MissyB1 · 06/08/2025 10:55

No I’m not. Like I said I’m much more scared of the “we hate immigrants/refugees /asylum seekers” mob. Remember Southport?

Yes I do. I also remember the covering up of Rotherham. That was conducive to the furore among the Southport murderer. I don't look at this in isolation, as I don't with the ME conflict.

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:56

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:52

Yes!

Palestine Actions aim is to introduce Sharia Law in Britain, correct?

MissyB1 · 06/08/2025 10:55

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 09:59

You're not concerned at terrorists, who seek to immobilise UK military aircraft?

No I’m not. Like I said I’m much more scared of the “we hate immigrants/refugees /asylum seekers” mob. Remember Southport?

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:54

AzurePanda · 06/08/2025 10:48

@Martymcfly24 in the case of the US protests it was the same tent and coordinated water bottles and food deliveries en masse etc. Who’s funding it? Well it’s a shame nobody seems interested enough to try and find out.

George Soros, I believe the interfering shit stirring Liberal billionaire. He was also behind the BLM riots protests. then youve got Qatar, for example, giving billions to France.

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:52

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:47

Islamist Terrorism1 can be described as terrorist violence motivated by a political id"eology seeking the imposition of Sharia Law and the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate."

That's what Palestine Action are aiming for?

Yes!

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:51

Obeseandashamed · 06/08/2025 10:31

I think part of the issue is a lot of people genuinely believe being muslim is being radical. Just stop oil have done similar things in the past but aren’t deemed to be a terror organisation.

That's because there ARE Islamic radicals. The foiled Iranian attack, tells you a lot. Stop oil idiots, are two bit clowns, who love to throw red paint over things. That's when they aren't endangering individual lives. Islamic extremists are a threat to our national security. Any westerners, hanging off their coat tails, don't realise what they are really representing and who they are helping. It's pointless to keep repeating this because it won't be believed. I've just had a bellyfull on another thread.

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 10:50

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:02

Is that Stop Oil group a proscribed terrorist group? They seem to employ similar techniques.

No because their overriding aim isn’t inherently political or part of an extremist belief system. They just campaign on a single policy issue. I dislike their tactics and think they’re hypocrites in many cases but I wouldn’t call it terrorism. I don’t feel terrified of them, I do feel terrified of Islamism.

AzurePanda · 06/08/2025 10:48

@Martymcfly24 in the case of the US protests it was the same tent and coordinated water bottles and food deliveries en masse etc. Who’s funding it? Well it’s a shame nobody seems interested enough to try and find out.

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:47

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:44

Islamist Terrorism1 can be described as terrorist violence motivated by a political id"eology seeking the imposition of Sharia Law and the establishment of an Islamic Caliphate."

That's what Palestine Action are aiming for?

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 10:46

MissyB1 · 06/08/2025 09:54

I'm far more concerned about the thugs that turn up outside hotels where they think asylum seekers might be staying. The Yaxley Lennon supporters, they scare me,I am not scared by peaceful people holding placards saying they are against genocide.

Nasty thugs for sure but how many people have they killed? Islamic fundamentalism has killed well over 100 people in the UK since the Millennium, and many more overseas including within Muslim countries.

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:44

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:42

Yeah I read it. And all it showed me was a quote by the organisers about huge numbers showing up so that the police can't arrest them all.
And the fact that there is going to be a high Court challenge on the legitimacy of the ban.

Not that link... this one 😊

https://www.protectuk.police.uk/threat-risk/threat-analysis/threat-islamist-terrorism

The Threat from Islamist Terrorism | ProtectUK

In this article, we take a look into the latest insights on the threat from Islamist Terrorism.

https://www.protectuk.police.uk/threat-risk/threat-analysis/threat-islamist-terrorism

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Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:43

AzurePanda · 06/08/2025 10:40

I agree OP. It amazes me how few people remark on the fact that so many demonstrators all have exactly the same tents (the college campus protests for example) and carry the same placards. There seems to be very little curiosity as to who is funding this and more importantly, why.

Who do you think is funding it? (Can't imagine the tents and A3 card cost that much?)

Sorry I just realized you said they all have the same tent .. Aldi Special Buy???

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:42

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:28

Maybe have a read of the link I posted earlier? It explains things better than I can!

Yeah I read it. And all it showed me was a quote by the organisers about huge numbers showing up so that the police can't arrest them all.
And the fact that there is going to be a high Court challenge on the legitimacy of the ban.

AzurePanda · 06/08/2025 10:40

I agree OP. It amazes me how few people remark on the fact that so many demonstrators all have exactly the same tents (the college campus protests for example) and carry the same placards. There seems to be very little curiosity as to who is funding this and more importantly, why.

quantumbutterfly · 06/08/2025 10:38

Dangermoo · 06/08/2025 10:01

When they fucked with UK military, they found out.

Could have been worse, in some places they take national security very seriously and use live ammo.

In most of the UK we're a bit lulled by our liberalism.

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:35

Obeseandashamed · 06/08/2025 10:31

I think part of the issue is a lot of people genuinely believe being muslim is being radical. Just stop oil have done similar things in the past but aren’t deemed to be a terror organisation.

No, I think some people just have no idea what radical Islam is, or how Just Stop Oil might in any way be less of a threat to national security than an organisation with ties to the Middle East.

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Obeseandashamed · 06/08/2025 10:31

I think part of the issue is a lot of people genuinely believe being muslim is being radical. Just stop oil have done similar things in the past but aren’t deemed to be a terror organisation.

quantumbutterfly · 06/08/2025 10:30

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:17

Bad actors???
I don't understand what you mean by this.

But surely if they cause more disruption and public order offences they should also have been proscribed?
Isn't that why Palestine Action has been made one

I imagine they're proscribed under derogations for national security and/or social cohesion in hra1998, but I'm not privy to these matters.

There'll be some freedom of information/ open government guff available for people who are no doubt exercising a bit of law fare.

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:28

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:21

Explain it to me so

I'm not in the UK .

Maybe have a read of the link I posted earlier? It explains things better than I can!

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Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:21

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:19

The fact that you don't understand what I mean by this is precisely why I started this thread.

Explain it to me so

I'm not in the UK .

Beachtastic · 06/08/2025 10:19

Martymcfly24 · 06/08/2025 10:17

Bad actors???
I don't understand what you mean by this.

But surely if they cause more disruption and public order offences they should also have been proscribed?
Isn't that why Palestine Action has been made one

The fact that you don't understand what I mean by this is precisely why I started this thread.

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