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Does the CITME forum negatively affect your mental health?

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SomeoneSomewheree · 04/08/2025 20:43

Personally, yes, it does.

To see people day in and day out try and justify a genocide does affect my mental health so I try to stay away at times.

I have also noticed it is the same handful of posters on both sides arguing, neither convincing the other.

I have unfortunately witnessed at times anti-semitic and anti-Palestinian comments, which are not pleasant to read.

Does it affect you? It is not always a pleasant place whatever your stance is on the conflict.

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Twiglets1 · 09/08/2025 10:36

On some threads discussions take place where a person’s comments can be gently mocked - after all we are all adults.

There is no place for that on a thread about mental health though. Or one dedicated to remembering children killed in Gaza either.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 10:32

Twiglets1 · 09/08/2025 10:29

I am unfamiliar with that particular thread and I’m sorry if people were being disrespectful. The best thing is to report posts like that.

As I said - they were swiftly reported and deleted. As I’ve said though, it’s difficult to ignore the repeated double standard.

Twiglets1 · 09/08/2025 10:29

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:28

In comparison to some of the comments left on a remembrance thread for Palestinian children on another board- where users posted very dismissive, political and unkind remarks- I don’t feel my tone here comes close to that level of disrespect. I’ve tried to engage in good faith, but it’s difficult to ignore the repeated double standard.

I am unfamiliar with that particular thread and I’m sorry if people were being disrespectful. The best thing is to report posts like that.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:54

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:51

Sorry, i wasn't accusing you just saying someone did and it seemed so cruel. Tbh I didn't see any nasty commente just some that didn't fit with your aim.

They have been both inappropriate comments and some extremely chilling comments, which have all been deleted by mumsnet thankfully.

and there was no “aim” other than what was stated in the op.

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:51

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:44

Well I can categorically say it wasn’t me. I respectfully commemorate all of the children killed in Gaza.

And to think people thought that it was appropriate to write nasty political discourse on that thread.

Sorry, i wasn't accusing you just saying someone did and it seemed so cruel. Tbh I didn't see any nasty commente just some that didn't fit with your aim.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:44

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:40

It was deleted. It was reinstated. To think that someone had reported a post because the victims were Jewish is absolutely appalling though.

Well I can categorically say it wasn’t me. I respectfully commemorate all of the children killed in Gaza.

And to think people thought that it was appropriate to write nasty political discourse on that thread.

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:40

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:37

No I don’t think it matters and it hasn’t been deleted 🤷‍♀️ all the nasty comments were though.

I do find it ironic that some posters object so strongly to being mocked, when in other threads they’ve been more than happy to mock, gang up on, or belittle others.

It was deleted. It was reinstated. To think that someone had reported a post because the victims were Jewish is absolutely appalling though.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:37

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:36

'In comparison to some of the comments left on a remembrance thread for Palestinian children on another board'

That thread says 'I’ll be using this thread to remember one child each day who has been killed in Gaza', it didnt state 'palestinian children'. I posted Ariel and Kkfir Bibas, 2 young children murdered in cold blood in gaza by terrorists, not by an airtstrike. It was initially deleted but reinstated as I don't believe it matters if the children are Jews, do you?

No I don’t think it matters and it hasn’t been deleted 🤷‍♀️ all the nasty comments were though.

I do find it ironic that some posters object so strongly to being mocked, when in other threads they’ve been more than happy to mock, gang up on, or belittle others.

Gloriia · 09/08/2025 09:36

'In comparison to some of the comments left on a remembrance thread for Palestinian children on another board'

That thread says 'I’ll be using this thread to remember one child each day who has been killed in Gaza', it didnt state 'palestinian children'. I posted Ariel and Kkfir Bibas, 2 young children murdered in cold blood in gaza by terrorists, not by an airtstrike. It was initially deleted but reinstated as I don't believe it matters if the children are Jews, do you?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 09/08/2025 09:28

Twiglets1 · 09/08/2025 07:30

You are not being very respectful on a thread where people are being open about how the CITME forum is affecting their mental health.

Please be respectful to other people, this is not the thread for you if you just want to mock people.

In comparison to some of the comments left on a remembrance thread for Palestinian children on another board- where users posted very dismissive, political and unkind remarks- I don’t feel my tone here comes close to that level of disrespect. I’ve tried to engage in good faith, but it’s difficult to ignore the repeated double standard.

Twiglets1 · 09/08/2025 07:30

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You are not being very respectful on a thread where people are being open about how the CITME forum is affecting their mental health.

Please be respectful to other people, this is not the thread for you if you just want to mock people.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/08/2025 22:50

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/08/2025 22:42

”One thing I think some posters wants is an echo chamber where they can disseminate all the ill things Israel has allegedly done without rebuttal or discussion. Is this entirely reasonable in a free country with free media where open discussion is the backbone of democracy?”

The irony is hard to miss- accusing others of wanting an echo chamber while doing everything possible to shut down uncomfortable facts is pure projection. Calling documented events “alleged” .

Free speech means you can speak, but it also means others can call out distortion, denial, and the hypocrisy of pretending to champion truth while actively undermining it.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/08/2025 21:16

Gloriia · 08/08/2025 10:48

Yet hamas have put a positive spin on starving their own people it's all the IDF's fault! Despite there being footage of hamas gorging on the food in the tunnels.

Case in point….
this has been disputed as misinformation many, many, many times….

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 08/08/2025 21:14

It’s really opened my eyes.

The CITME forum can be really draining- watching the same arguments cycle endlessly, with people often more intent on scoring points than understanding each other. It’s especially upsetting to see hateful comments from any side, because that only deepens divisions.

Sometimes I step away, especially when the conversation turns hostile or dismissive of human suffering.

It’s striking how often those who shout loudest about ‘misinformation’ and ‘truth twisting’ are exactly the ones spreading it. For example, when posters claim others are spreading misinformation about civilian casualties or humanitarian crises, but then dismiss verified reports or evidence- that’s distorting reality. Or when they accuse critics of being biased or hateful, while themselves using dehumanising language or ignoring the suffering of innocent people.

It really highlights how these debates are less about seeking truth and more about controlling the narrative. Recognising this pattern is key to seeing through the noise.

GladioliGreen · 08/08/2025 20:22

PrawnAgain · 08/08/2025 16:55

People keep talking of Hamas "winning".

Nobody is winning here. Gaza is decimated, Palestinians are starving, Isreal is becoming a Paruah state and Jewish people feel unsafe because of a rise in antisemitism.

I don't see any wins.

That's not quite true, arms companies are certainly 'winning' to the tune of billions. RTX, for instance, the makers of 2,000-pound 'bunker buster' bombs that turned most of Gaza to rubble saw profit grow a whopping 49% in 2024.

PrawnAgain · 08/08/2025 16:55

People keep talking of Hamas "winning".

Nobody is winning here. Gaza is decimated, Palestinians are starving, Isreal is becoming a Paruah state and Jewish people feel unsafe because of a rise in antisemitism.

I don't see any wins.

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 13:15

Gloriia · 08/08/2025 10:48

Yet hamas have put a positive spin on starving their own people it's all the IDF's fault! Despite there being footage of hamas gorging on the food in the tunnels.

Hamas have such willing disseminators of their propaganda. And now western leaders putting conditions, but for some, not on terrorists.

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 13:02

I don’t read it that much and often find what @GentleSheeprefers to.

NoSoundbitesPlease · 08/08/2025 13:00

GentleSheep · 08/08/2025 09:51

I only dip into it occasionally and usually regret it when I do as it's so brimming with hate and misinformation. There's a massive propaganda machine churning out lies, I'lll give it to Hamas, they are good at that.

It seems like quite a few people dip in and out and also are dismayed at the hate and misinformation. Hamas has won the PR war and quite happily used their children to win it since to them there is a bigger prize. Some people just want to live in peace whilst others (radicals like Hamas) want the destruction of other people who don't follow their thinking.

NoSoundbitesPlease · 08/08/2025 12:56

I don't visit CITME often. Too many black and white thinkers with Palestine good and Israel bad frequent these threads. Just look at the number of threads with deleted hate filled posts. Not worth it really, you'll never change the mind of the ones who cannot think about history and chances and why things develop a certain way and how radical beliefs to wipe people out should bever be tolerated - no matter who has them. It's a special cause to some, it perhaps makes them feel important or like they are 'doing something' by posting the same old stuff and hatred over and over again. So a quick dip in from time to time and I see nothing really changes so off again.

mids2019 · 08/08/2025 11:19

Voxon · 07/08/2025 06:39

There are, whether people accept it or not, horrific things going on all around the world and they pass by with barely a whisper.

It depresses me to see a forum section dedicated to what looks like singling out one country, one people, one conflict, one crisis and that it's so mired in not only obvious bias, but constant disinformation, truth twisting and Olympic level virtue signalling which doesn't hold up under scrutiny.

I think British society has become quite broken, egged on by the power of social media and I'm sorry that I'm seeing people behaving as they are. I'm unsurprised that Jewish people don't see a future in Britain - in their shoes I'd be leaving and to be honest I'm thinking of leaving too just because I don't want to share a country with people doing and saying the things they are.

That doesn't affect my mental health, but it does make me sad. Some of the threads here aren't discussions of global issues, they are basically just demonisation. What they're trying to spread is the idea that Israel is evil, inherently and irrevocably and more so than any group or country and Palestine is inherently the opposite.

I see through a crystal clear eye why they are trying to do that, and it causes me to see a deep, sickened society in front of me that might have crossed a rubicon.

Well said

Gloriia · 08/08/2025 10:48

SomeoneSomewheree · 08/08/2025 10:32

Israel have tried and failed as expected. You can't put a positive spin on a genocide no matter how hard they try. They might have been more successful if they weren't killing innocent civilians on a daily basis.

Yet hamas have put a positive spin on starving their own people it's all the IDF's fault! Despite there being footage of hamas gorging on the food in the tunnels.

quantumbutterfly · 08/08/2025 10:37

Gloriia · 08/08/2025 10:07

They are aren't they. I must admit give them their due hamas have won the pr war so far. Who knew seasoned journalists would lap up all the staged photos and stories without question.

I was watching some of the Oxford union and Cambridge union debates online and surprised that a student tried to claim that Britain didn't bomb German civilians in WWII to support the argument she was trying to make (an Oxford university student).
Ideological capture is not hard if you get them young.

SomeoneSomewheree · 08/08/2025 10:32

Israel have tried and failed as expected. You can't put a positive spin on a genocide no matter how hard they try. They might have been more successful if they weren't killing innocent civilians on a daily basis.

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