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Does the CITME forum negatively affect your mental health?

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SomeoneSomewheree · 04/08/2025 20:43

Personally, yes, it does.

To see people day in and day out try and justify a genocide does affect my mental health so I try to stay away at times.

I have also noticed it is the same handful of posters on both sides arguing, neither convincing the other.

I have unfortunately witnessed at times anti-semitic and anti-Palestinian comments, which are not pleasant to read.

Does it affect you? It is not always a pleasant place whatever your stance is on the conflict.

OP posts:
dairydebris · 13/08/2025 10:10

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 10:07

“Israel isn't uniquely awful. Israel is as awful as all humans are capable of being. Theyre humans too.
One feature of the Israel / Gaza conflict is the media visibility to us here in the UK. I think that's part of the reason theres so many threads on here etc. It's right in front of our eyes, repeatedly. It concerns me that this is by Hamas' design. I think they glorify in their civilians deaths to bring the cause to our screens. “

I find it disturbing framing Israel as “just as awful as all humans” and then implying that the visibility of civilian deaths is somehow Hamas’ doing. That shifts responsibility away from the state deliberately bombing civilians and onto the victims themselves- and that’s a dangerous and misleading way to frame the conflict.

I don't blame the innocent victims in Gaza for this war. I blame the party that started it, and the party that refuses to surrender in the face of massive suffering of its own people.

And I can't understand why many others on here apportion blame so differently.

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 10:07

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 10:02

Your wording tries to frame it as neutral or reflective, but by comparing numbers of children at risk in Yemen vs. Gaza and highlighting “unique” aspects of other conflicts, you’re essentially ranking suffering: a classic suffering competition.

What’s your point? That we shouldn’t be outraged by what’s happening in Gaza because atrocities happen elsewhere?

My point is that humans have always caused suffering to one another, always will, and that Israel isn't uniquely awful.

I'm honestly not ranking suffering and yes, feeling reflective.

Why the unique level of hatred for Israel?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 10:07

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 09:44

My point is that other conflicts have other features that make them uniquely horrific.

Yemen for example. UNICEF estimates 9.8 million children at risk of starvation. That number is so massive I can't comprehend it. Way more than Gaza. And you could make a very strong argument that with our defense contracts with KSA we are complicit too.

I don't want to make it a suffering competition. I just wish to point out that humans all over the world are abusing in each in the name of ideology, land grab, resources, whatever. Theres much thats unique about Gaza but theres much thats unique about other conflicts too.

Israel isn't uniquely awful. Israel is as awful as all humans are capable of being. Theyre humans too.

One feature of the Israel / Gaza conflict is the media visibility to us here in the UK. I think that's part of the reason theres so many threads on here etc. It's right in front of our eyes, repeatedly. It concerns me that this is by Hamas' design. I think they glorify in their civilians deaths to bring the cause to our screens. Thats what I find unique in this conflict.

“Israel isn't uniquely awful. Israel is as awful as all humans are capable of being. Theyre humans too.
One feature of the Israel / Gaza conflict is the media visibility to us here in the UK. I think that's part of the reason theres so many threads on here etc. It's right in front of our eyes, repeatedly. It concerns me that this is by Hamas' design. I think they glorify in their civilians deaths to bring the cause to our screens. “

I find it disturbing framing Israel as “just as awful as all humans” and then implying that the visibility of civilian deaths is somehow Hamas’ doing. That shifts responsibility away from the state deliberately bombing civilians and onto the victims themselves- and that’s a dangerous and misleading way to frame the conflict.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 10:02

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 09:44

My point is that other conflicts have other features that make them uniquely horrific.

Yemen for example. UNICEF estimates 9.8 million children at risk of starvation. That number is so massive I can't comprehend it. Way more than Gaza. And you could make a very strong argument that with our defense contracts with KSA we are complicit too.

I don't want to make it a suffering competition. I just wish to point out that humans all over the world are abusing in each in the name of ideology, land grab, resources, whatever. Theres much thats unique about Gaza but theres much thats unique about other conflicts too.

Israel isn't uniquely awful. Israel is as awful as all humans are capable of being. Theyre humans too.

One feature of the Israel / Gaza conflict is the media visibility to us here in the UK. I think that's part of the reason theres so many threads on here etc. It's right in front of our eyes, repeatedly. It concerns me that this is by Hamas' design. I think they glorify in their civilians deaths to bring the cause to our screens. Thats what I find unique in this conflict.

Your wording tries to frame it as neutral or reflective, but by comparing numbers of children at risk in Yemen vs. Gaza and highlighting “unique” aspects of other conflicts, you’re essentially ranking suffering: a classic suffering competition.

What’s your point? That we shouldn’t be outraged by what’s happening in Gaza because atrocities happen elsewhere?

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 09:44

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:20

Every war is horrific. But not every war kills 20,000 children in under a year, displaces 90% of a population, blocks aid, and openly declares the intent to “eliminate everything.”

That scale and speed of destruction is not something you can flatten into just another conflict.

My point is that other conflicts have other features that make them uniquely horrific.

Yemen for example. UNICEF estimates 9.8 million children at risk of starvation. That number is so massive I can't comprehend it. Way more than Gaza. And you could make a very strong argument that with our defense contracts with KSA we are complicit too.

I don't want to make it a suffering competition. I just wish to point out that humans all over the world are abusing in each in the name of ideology, land grab, resources, whatever. Theres much thats unique about Gaza but theres much thats unique about other conflicts too.

Israel isn't uniquely awful. Israel is as awful as all humans are capable of being. Theyre humans too.

One feature of the Israel / Gaza conflict is the media visibility to us here in the UK. I think that's part of the reason theres so many threads on here etc. It's right in front of our eyes, repeatedly. It concerns me that this is by Hamas' design. I think they glorify in their civilians deaths to bring the cause to our screens. Thats what I find unique in this conflict.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:29

Gloriia · 13/08/2025 08:00

It is horrific isn't it all the conflicts, all the humanitarian crises. Yet so many on these citme threads only voice their concern about this one. I wonder why.

Look at Saudi and yemen! Terrible humanitarian crisis there and you just do not get people furious doing 25 c&p a day to condemn it and naming all the victims. It's like it's ok for the Saudis but not for Israel..

And before anyone trots out the yeah but we arm israel, the US and the UK supply military equipment to many countries not just Israel.

caat.org.uk/homepage/stop-arming-saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia/

Classic whataboutism- trying to deflect criticism of Israel by pointing to other conflicts, without actually engaging with the scale, speed, or nature of what’s actually happening in Gaza

The reason you see more people speaking up about Gaza isn’t because they “don’t care” about Yemen or other crises-

it’s because Gaza is unfolding in real time, in front of our eyes, with no ambiguity about who is doing what.

We are seeing a trapped civilian population bombed daily, starved, and denied aid, with one of the highest child death rates in modern conflict history- all while our own governments actively fund and arm it.

Yemen’s crisis is also horrific, but it has been largely hidden from view, with far less live reporting and far less direct involvement from the UK public’s own government. When your country’s taxes are directly bankrolling bombs and blocking ceasefires, people have a moral obligation to speak up loudly and repeatedly.

GladioliGreen · 13/08/2025 09:22

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 08:51

2.3 million children at risk of starvation in Yemen.

120k civilian deaths in Iraq ( and our military actually fighting there )

Its exceptional, but every war is exceptional in one way or another.

You only have to have studied a few conflicts to know this.

2.3 million children at risk of starvation in Yemen.

Have people been posting photos of their mums and talking about how 'well fed' they are too? Have they been diagnosing them via them the internet and deciding that it's not really that bad because it's only the disabled children who are skin and bone so far?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:22

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 08:51

2.3 million children at risk of starvation in Yemen.

120k civilian deaths in Iraq ( and our military actually fighting there )

Its exceptional, but every war is exceptional in one way or another.

You only have to have studied a few conflicts to know this.

120k civilian deaths in Iraq ( and our military actually fighting there )

spread over two decades, not a single year like Gaza.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:20

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 08:51

2.3 million children at risk of starvation in Yemen.

120k civilian deaths in Iraq ( and our military actually fighting there )

Its exceptional, but every war is exceptional in one way or another.

You only have to have studied a few conflicts to know this.

Every war is horrific. But not every war kills 20,000 children in under a year, displaces 90% of a population, blocks aid, and openly declares the intent to “eliminate everything.”

That scale and speed of destruction is not something you can flatten into just another conflict.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:17

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 23:03

From Google:
( prob AI generated )

Several countries are currently facing severe food crises, with some experiencing famine-like conditions. According to recent reports, Haiti, South Sudan, Sudan, and the Occupied Palestinian Territories are among the most critical hunger hotspots. Additionally, Mali, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Chad are also experiencing severe food insecurity.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Haiti:
Faces a combination of political instability, natural disasters, and economic hardship, contributing to widespread hunger.

South Sudan:
Ongoing conflict and displacement have severely impacted food production and access, leading to widespread food shortages.

Sudan:
Conflict, displacement, and economic instability have created a dire humanitarian situation.

Occupied Palestinian Territories:
The ongoing conflict and restrictions on access to food and resources have led to a severe food crisis.

Mali:
Conflict and climate change are major drivers of food insecurity in Mali.

Syria:
The long-running conflict has devastated agricultural production and infrastructure, leading to widespread hunger.

Yemen:
The ongoing conflict and economic collapse have caused a severe humanitarian crisis, with millions facing starvation.

Afghanistan:
Drought, conflict, and economic instability have pushed millions into severe food insecurity.

Chad:
Drought, climate change, and conflict are major factors contributing to food insecurity in Chad.

How many of these countries are holding 50 hostages, 50 hostages held for 675 days...

Israel has had multiple chances to get the hostages home without continuing the slaughter- Nov 2023, Feb 2024, May 2024, Jan 2025- and either stalled, rejected, or broke the deals. Even hostage families in Israel say Netanyahu is using them as a political shield to prolong the war.

Over 100 children in Gaza have now died from starvation-related causes. “Release the hostages” is not a good faith argument when the record shows Israel has refused or sabotaged agreements that could have saved lives.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 13/08/2025 09:13

It’s odd how “Release the hostages” keeps getting thrown around like Israel hasn’t had multiple chances to do exactly that without killing thousands more civilians. Nov ’23? Deal agreed, hostages released, more on the way… until Israel broke the ceasefire. Feb ’24? Another phased release plan: rejected. May ’24? Hamas accepted a deal that matched Israel’s own terms- Israel stalled. Jan ’25? Deal accepted… then Israel launched surprise attacks.

Even some hostage families in Israel say Netanyahu’s using them as political cover. As long as hostages remain in Gaza, he gets to keep the war going.

They’re actually incentivised not to bring their hostages back because then Netanyahu would lose power. Release the hostages is not a good faith argument, it’s a classic Israeli talking point to shift the blame to Palestinians and ignore the fact that Israel has had plenty of chances to get their hostages back without committing genocide.

dairydebris · 13/08/2025 08:51

GladioliGreen · 13/08/2025 08:46

Because it's exceptional Gloria.

Exceptional in the high percentage of women and children killed. Exceptional in the high percentage of population killed. Exceptional in the percentage of population displaced. Exceptional in the number of child amputees. Exceptional in that international journalists can't enter. Exceptional in the amount of bombing, the equivalent of 8 Hiroshimas in a space 3 times smaller. Exceptional in the percentage of homes destroyed. Exceptional in that middle aged Western women look at starving children and go look their fat mum instead of calling for the child to be fed. Exceptional in that the perpetrators of the killings of 20000+ children made clear from the very beginning that they were going to 'eliminate everything' and yet some people spend their lives online defending them, insisting that they are just misunderstood and actually it's the people who are appalled by their actions who are the horrible hatefilled people.

I could go on but you know all of this already, everybody does. Thats why the tide has turned on Israel. While Netanyahu is talking about his 'spiritual mission' and how he is 'very attached' to the idea of a Greater Israel the rest of the world, to quote the NZ prime minister, thinks he has 'lost the plot'.

2.3 million children at risk of starvation in Yemen.

120k civilian deaths in Iraq ( and our military actually fighting there )

Its exceptional, but every war is exceptional in one way or another.

You only have to have studied a few conflicts to know this.

GladioliGreen · 13/08/2025 08:46

Gloriia · 13/08/2025 08:00

It is horrific isn't it all the conflicts, all the humanitarian crises. Yet so many on these citme threads only voice their concern about this one. I wonder why.

Look at Saudi and yemen! Terrible humanitarian crisis there and you just do not get people furious doing 25 c&p a day to condemn it and naming all the victims. It's like it's ok for the Saudis but not for Israel..

And before anyone trots out the yeah but we arm israel, the US and the UK supply military equipment to many countries not just Israel.

caat.org.uk/homepage/stop-arming-saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia/

Because it's exceptional Gloria.

Exceptional in the high percentage of women and children killed. Exceptional in the high percentage of population killed. Exceptional in the percentage of population displaced. Exceptional in the number of child amputees. Exceptional in that international journalists can't enter. Exceptional in the amount of bombing, the equivalent of 8 Hiroshimas in a space 3 times smaller. Exceptional in the percentage of homes destroyed. Exceptional in that middle aged Western women look at starving children and go look their fat mum instead of calling for the child to be fed. Exceptional in that the perpetrators of the killings of 20000+ children made clear from the very beginning that they were going to 'eliminate everything' and yet some people spend their lives online defending them, insisting that they are just misunderstood and actually it's the people who are appalled by their actions who are the horrible hatefilled people.

I could go on but you know all of this already, everybody does. Thats why the tide has turned on Israel. While Netanyahu is talking about his 'spiritual mission' and how he is 'very attached' to the idea of a Greater Israel the rest of the world, to quote the NZ prime minister, thinks he has 'lost the plot'.

Gloriia · 13/08/2025 08:03

'I read a statement from one the dead journalists and you could see his personal motivation and that of many Palestinians was not a two state solution but one of a 'free' Palestine which basically meant the eradication of Israel with a call to arms to do so'

Exactly. Israel is doing the world a favour getting rid of terrorists yet some people can't stop peddling the hamas rubbish.

Gloriia · 13/08/2025 08:00

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 23:03

From Google:
( prob AI generated )

Several countries are currently facing severe food crises, with some experiencing famine-like conditions. According to recent reports, Haiti, South Sudan, Sudan, and the Occupied Palestinian Territories are among the most critical hunger hotspots. Additionally, Mali, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Chad are also experiencing severe food insecurity.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Haiti:
Faces a combination of political instability, natural disasters, and economic hardship, contributing to widespread hunger.

South Sudan:
Ongoing conflict and displacement have severely impacted food production and access, leading to widespread food shortages.

Sudan:
Conflict, displacement, and economic instability have created a dire humanitarian situation.

Occupied Palestinian Territories:
The ongoing conflict and restrictions on access to food and resources have led to a severe food crisis.

Mali:
Conflict and climate change are major drivers of food insecurity in Mali.

Syria:
The long-running conflict has devastated agricultural production and infrastructure, leading to widespread hunger.

Yemen:
The ongoing conflict and economic collapse have caused a severe humanitarian crisis, with millions facing starvation.

Afghanistan:
Drought, conflict, and economic instability have pushed millions into severe food insecurity.

Chad:
Drought, climate change, and conflict are major factors contributing to food insecurity in Chad.

How many of these countries are holding 50 hostages, 50 hostages held for 675 days...

It is horrific isn't it all the conflicts, all the humanitarian crises. Yet so many on these citme threads only voice their concern about this one. I wonder why.

Look at Saudi and yemen! Terrible humanitarian crisis there and you just do not get people furious doing 25 c&p a day to condemn it and naming all the victims. It's like it's ok for the Saudis but not for Israel..

And before anyone trots out the yeah but we arm israel, the US and the UK supply military equipment to many countries not just Israel.

caat.org.uk/homepage/stop-arming-saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia/

mids2019 · 13/08/2025 06:25

It is wrong as in any conflict to be overly virtuous about one side in the conflict and of course it is part of Hamas propaganda goals to promote media coverage of civilian death. To frame the Palestinians as the long suffering underdog fighting a courageous battle (even holy) battle against an evil oppressor is as disingenuous as it is wrong.

I read a statement from one the dead journalists and you could see his personal motivation and that of many Palestinians was not a two state solution but one of a 'free' Palestine which basically meant the eradication of Israel with a call to arms to do so. The Palestinian struggle is not one that they wish to continue amongst diplomats or in the UN but one on the battlefield or more likely through terrorist acts.

I think it would impact a lot of Israelis mental health knowing the mind set that instigated October 7th is alive and well in Gaza and the West seems to be rewarding this by increasingly recognising a Palestinian state when Gaza is still under control of a people supported terrorist group.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 23:03

From Google:
( prob AI generated )

Several countries are currently facing severe food crises, with some experiencing famine-like conditions. According to recent reports, Haiti, South Sudan, Sudan, and the Occupied Palestinian Territories are among the most critical hunger hotspots. Additionally, Mali, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Chad are also experiencing severe food insecurity.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Haiti:
Faces a combination of political instability, natural disasters, and economic hardship, contributing to widespread hunger.

South Sudan:
Ongoing conflict and displacement have severely impacted food production and access, leading to widespread food shortages.

Sudan:
Conflict, displacement, and economic instability have created a dire humanitarian situation.

Occupied Palestinian Territories:
The ongoing conflict and restrictions on access to food and resources have led to a severe food crisis.

Mali:
Conflict and climate change are major drivers of food insecurity in Mali.

Syria:
The long-running conflict has devastated agricultural production and infrastructure, leading to widespread hunger.

Yemen:
The ongoing conflict and economic collapse have caused a severe humanitarian crisis, with millions facing starvation.

Afghanistan:
Drought, conflict, and economic instability have pushed millions into severe food insecurity.

Chad:
Drought, climate change, and conflict are major factors contributing to food insecurity in Chad.

How many of these countries are holding 50 hostages, 50 hostages held for 675 days...

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 17:01

For over five months, Israel has blocked the entry of humanitarian aid, including food and medicine, putting the lives of more than 2 million Palestinians at risk.

A child is dying in Gaza every 53 seconds.

Over half a million children are now suffering from acute malnutrition.

Israel controls all land crossings, airspace, and sea access to Gaza.

Aid has been blocked or severely limited at
Israeli checkpoints since early 2024.

The UN and all major aid organisations say the famine is entirely man-made.

Amnesty International: “Israel is deliberately starving Gaza”
Human Rights Watch: “Israel is using starvation as weapon of war”
Save the Children: “Israel's siege is starving the people of Gaza”
Doctors Without Borders: “Israel is destroying conditions of life in Gaza”

"There are no uninvolved in Gaza" -
Israeli rabbi Ronen Shaulov has called for every child in Gaza to be starved to death, saying that "not a trace can remain" of Gaza and there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians. Ronen Shaulov is popular in Israel with a large social media following.

Who controls the aid?
The UN does not control Gaza's border crossings.
Only Israel does.
Since Oct 2023, Israel has forced aid trucks to unload at the border and leave

Why doesn't the aid move inside Gaza?
Once unloaded, local trucks inside Gaza must get Israeli permits to pick up the aid.
Israel often denies or delays the permits
then asks, "Why isn't the UN picking up the aid?"

Even with permits, truck drivers risk being bombed or shot by Israeli forces.
This has happened repeatedly.

There, Israeli-backed armed gangs steal aid, beat, kidnap, or kill drivers.
Israel knows this - and still forces that route.

It's Israel controlling the borders, not Hamas. Aid is sitting in trucks because Israel is blocking it, often for weeks or months at a time. This has been confirmed by the UN, WHO, Amnesty, and multiple aid organisations on the ground.

Close to 20,000 children have already been killed, and those who survive are being slowly starved- half of all children under five are acutely malnourished. Infant formula is being blocked, along with food, medicine, and clean water. Babies are being born to starving mothers, in tents, with no incubators, no fuel, and no chance. Newborn babies have starved to death. This isn't just a humanitarian failure- it's the deliberate use of mass starvation as a weapon of war.

Blocking aid, bombing bakeries, attacking distribution points, and denying formula to babies is not "defeating Hamas." It's collective punishment and under international law, it is a war crime.

"IDE officers told Haaretz that the army does not allow the public in Israel or abroad to see footage of what takes place around the food distribution sites [...]
But lately, firing shells has just become standard practice. Every time we fire, there are casualties and deaths, and when someone asks why a shell is necessary, there's never a good answer I...]
Gaza doesn't interest anyone anymore ... It's become a place with its own set of rules. The loss of human life means nothing. It's not even an 'unfortunate incident, like they used to say."
"Earlier this week, soldiers from Division 252 opened fire at an intersection where civilians were waiting for aid trucks. A commander on the ground gave the order to fire directly at the center of the junction, resulting in the deaths of eight civilians, including teenagers [...]
When we asked why they opened fire, we were told it was an order from above and that the civilians had posed a threat to the troops. I can say with certainty that the people were not close to the forces and did not endanger them. It was pointless - they were just killed, for nothing. This thing called killing innocent people - it's been normalized."
"We open fire early in the morning if someone tries to get in line from a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge at them from close range.
But there's no danger to the forces [...]
I'm not aware of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy, no weapons [...]
He also said the activity in his area of service is referred to as
Operation Salted Fish - the name of the Israeli version of the children's game:
"Red light, green light"

“A very small part of the aid gets in here.
And even to get it, you live death a billion times every second from bombing and gunfire.
Every day, more than 50 people die here, and more than 1000 people are injured by bullets and shells while we try to get aid.
And if you do get this aid, there are armed gangs here who come and take what you managed to get by force, and it is very easy for them to shoot and beat you because these gangs are supported by Israel.
A short time ago, I was hit by a shrapnel from a shell. While I was trying to get flour, we were heavily shelled with artillery. Everyone who was there, if they were not martyred, was injured.
And the ambulances are forbidden from reaching there.”

Even if Hamas disappeared tomorrow, Israel's siege and aid blockade would still be in place unless it is lifted.

40,000 orphans
Highest number of child amputees.
98(?) children and counting dead from starvation.
No education for two years.
1 million children displaced and homeless.
49% want to die because of the conflict.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 16:23

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:21

Stop purposely starving children and babies to death.

Yes hamas need to help their people get the aid, I absolutely agree with you.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:21

Stop purposely starving children and babies to death.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 16:13

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:01

That’s a nice change of tone, especially considering how rude you’ve been in past posts. Civility works both ways, doesn’t it?

Boris, with respect you have said previously that you will not engage with me.
Why don't you stick to that? I've been nothing but patient and polite on here and other threads. Yes I uses childish terms like 'wanging' when talking about hapless UK reporters but that does not take away from how very seriously I view the awful situation in gaza.

Free the hostages. I think we can all agree on that.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 12/08/2025 16:05

' HellsBalls · 05/08/2025 09:04

I think there would not be a CITME forum if it was another Muslim nation at war with the Gaza. '

summed up in one complete sentence

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 16:01

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:57

You know Boris I could critique your posting style but I won't because I'm not rude. You do you though.

That’s a nice change of tone, especially considering how rude you’ve been in past posts. Civility works both ways, doesn’t it?

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:57

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 12/08/2025 15:53

The way you write phrases like “wanging on” really undermines your own argument. Honestly, some of your posts are so poorly phrased and off-putting that I’ve wondered if you’re unintentionally making the pro-Israeli side look worse.

You know Boris I could critique your posting style but I won't because I'm not rude. You do you though.

Gloriia · 12/08/2025 15:56

SomeoneSomewheree · 12/08/2025 15:54

You calling them silly is embarrassing. They do a fine job holding the genocidal IDF to account.

They really don't. The IDF spokesperson was very professional and patient it has to be said though.