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Israeli cleric Rabbi Ronen Shaulov calls for the starvation of all civilians in Gaza

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TulipLavender · 03/08/2025 01:35

https://youtube.com/shorts/RFFcB8mEabs?si=Fo30dm4_Qy2sLjhP

He says every child in Gaza should starve to death.

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https://youtube.com/shorts/RFFcB8mEabs?si=Fo30dm4_Qy2sLjhP

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TulipLavender · 19/08/2025 10:57

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:49

@Hamiltonfan I say this kindly- I suggest you properly read through the evidence I’ve shared.

If you feel you can handle it, I would also look up and read about the babies and children who have died so far due to malnutrition and the blockade on baby formula (I’ve shared a link above).

Unfortunately, you’ve been a victim of fake news/propaganda.

You are so much kinder than i am

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TulipLavender · 19/08/2025 10:56

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Top comments make it clear that account is hacked, location is rubble. Restaurant and street dont exist.

What absolute disgusting propaganda - how evil do you have to be to create such propaganda.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:52

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:32

See here some of the children/babies who have died of malnutrition so far (trigger warning: child death)

https://www.thedailyfile.org/forcibly-involved

Here @Hamiltonfan

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:49

@Hamiltonfan I say this kindly- I suggest you properly read through the evidence I’ve shared.

If you feel you can handle it, I would also look up and read about the babies and children who have died so far due to malnutrition and the blockade on baby formula (I’ve shared a link above).

Unfortunately, you’ve been a victim of fake news/propaganda.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:44

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:43

Sorry are you telling me that I'm not a dietitian?

Yes I am.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:44

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As I said previously, we can see your instagram name and profile picture when you post these.

They are not verified evidence. They could have been created by anyone claiming to ‘be’ in Gaza. I will stick to the swathes of evidence I have posted from independent humanitarian organisations and medical professionals on the ground.

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:43

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Sorry are you telling me that I'm not a dietitian?

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TulipLavender · 19/08/2025 10:38

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:30

  1. Save the Children (May 2025): Reports that 1.1 million children in Gaza are urgently threatened by acute food insecurity, with 93% of the population experiencing crisis-level hunger or worse.
  2. UNICEF (April 2025): States that over 1 million children in Gaza have been deprived of lifesaving aid for over a month due to the ongoing blockade, leading to dire consequences for their health and survival.
  3. World Health Organization (May 2025): Reports that since the aid blockade began on March 2, 2025, 57 children have died from the effects of malnutrition, with nearly 71,000 children under the age of five expected to suffer from acute malnutrition over the next eleven months.
  4. UNICEF and WFP (May 2025): Warn of a looming catastrophe as 71,000 children and more than 17,000 mothers are threatened by acute malnutrition, highlighting the urgent need for humanitarian assistance.
  5. UNICEF (May 2025): Notes a nearly 50% increase in the number of children diagnosed with malnutrition in Gaza, from 3,444 in April to over 5,000 in May, indicating a rapidly deteriorating situation.

Oh but these organisations they are all biased against Israel so they are just completely making up this to make Israel look bad. They are just filled with antisemites whose only purpose in life is to make Israel (who have never done a thing wrong) look bad.

There is so much food available in Gaza but the Palestinians are such evil monsters that they are starving their children while they feast away and bringing them to aid distribution sites and telling them to look desperate just so that Israel looks bad.

How can anyone think this is at all credible or acceptable to say.

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Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:36

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:26

I can only deduce from your comment that you don’t work in a medical or humanitarian setting.

Malnutrition doesn’t always manifest immediately in the way casual observers expect: children visibly starve first because their bodies have less fat and muscle reserves, and they waste away more quickly than adults.

Adults can appear relatively normal while their organs and overall health are deteriorating.

This is why medical professionals, UN agencies, and organisations such as UNICEF, Save the Children, WHO, and OCHA have all confirmed that there is a severe famine in Gaza, with critical shortages of food, water, and medical supplies.

As for the claim about ‘fully stocked shops,’ numerous independent reports and satellite imagery show widespread destruction of markets and supply chains. Occasional (falsified) photos don’t negate the overwhelming evidence on the ground.

Dismissing the starvation of nearly 1 million children as propaganda ignores documented, verifiable data from trusted humanitarian sources.

I'm a dietitian working with underweight children so know exactly what I'm talking about thank you.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:33

@Hamiltonfan also FYI, I can see your instagram username and profile picture when I click on those links

zerofeeling · 19/08/2025 10:32

Twiglets1 · 19/08/2025 10:18

No it isn’t, they are at war with Hamas.

When logic flies out of the window, it’s time to take a break from MN as no point arguing with those who want to villainise Israel against all reason.

So on that note, I’m out.

I think that's a good idea. When you've reached the point of trying to justify such an abomination it's definitely time for a break and some reflection.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:30
  1. Save the Children (May 2025): Reports that 1.1 million children in Gaza are urgently threatened by acute food insecurity, with 93% of the population experiencing crisis-level hunger or worse.
  2. UNICEF (April 2025): States that over 1 million children in Gaza have been deprived of lifesaving aid for over a month due to the ongoing blockade, leading to dire consequences for their health and survival.
  3. World Health Organization (May 2025): Reports that since the aid blockade began on March 2, 2025, 57 children have died from the effects of malnutrition, with nearly 71,000 children under the age of five expected to suffer from acute malnutrition over the next eleven months.
  4. UNICEF and WFP (May 2025): Warn of a looming catastrophe as 71,000 children and more than 17,000 mothers are threatened by acute malnutrition, highlighting the urgent need for humanitarian assistance.
  5. UNICEF (May 2025): Notes a nearly 50% increase in the number of children diagnosed with malnutrition in Gaza, from 3,444 in April to over 5,000 in May, indicating a rapidly deteriorating situation.
TulipLavender · 19/08/2025 10:30

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:20

Re starvation - I don't know about you but all the parents look very well fed. If it was my child they would have my food and I would "starve" before they feel any ill effects. Unfortunately all the pictures that have been posted of "starving children" have all come from other conflicts (Sudan etc), are children with congenital or medical issues (which mean they are malnourished despite eating an adequate amount of food), or produced by AI.

There are several Instagram accounts accessible to everyone showing fully stocked shops, markets and restaurants.

You are all Hamas' puppets for regurgitating their propaganda.

You are buying into Israeli propaganda.
These evil instagram accounts never have actual links to authentic, real time palestinian businesses - they are disgusting fabrications designed to manufacture consent for genocide.

Ive never seen people walk hours and queue in their thousands under threat of gunfire for food they dont desperately need. What happens when agriculture is destroyed and aid trucks are prevented from entering for weeks on end to a population of over 2 million (that wss already on on 17 yeat blockade where Israel was calorie counting to ensure bare survival was provided for). Do the Palestinians have magic powers to create food from nowhere?

Cant believe you can honestly, buy into such crap let alone think anyone could believe what you are saying.

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:30

Satellite analyses have shown that over 67% of Gaza’s croplands have been damaged or destroyed, and nearly 70% of greenhouses have been obliterated . This widespread agricultural destruction, coupled with the blockade, has led to catastrophic hunger levels, with 470,000 people in Gaza facing catastrophic hunger (IPC Phase 5) .

Additionally, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) report indicates that 93% of Gaza’s population is experiencing crisis-level acute food insecurity or worse, with the entire population facing acute food insecurity . UNICEF and the World Food Programme have warned of a looming catastrophe, with 71,000 children and more than 17,000 mothers threatened by acute malnutrition .

  1. AP News – Gaza humanitarian crisis
  2. UNICEF USA – Desperate situation for Gaza’s children
  3. The Guardian – Israel-Gaza latest updates
  4. Wikipedia – Gaza Strip famine
  5. Save the Children – Gaza children at risk of famine
  6. UNICEF – Risk of famine for children across Gaza

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:26

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:20

Re starvation - I don't know about you but all the parents look very well fed. If it was my child they would have my food and I would "starve" before they feel any ill effects. Unfortunately all the pictures that have been posted of "starving children" have all come from other conflicts (Sudan etc), are children with congenital or medical issues (which mean they are malnourished despite eating an adequate amount of food), or produced by AI.

There are several Instagram accounts accessible to everyone showing fully stocked shops, markets and restaurants.

You are all Hamas' puppets for regurgitating their propaganda.

I can only deduce from your comment that you don’t work in a medical or humanitarian setting.

Malnutrition doesn’t always manifest immediately in the way casual observers expect: children visibly starve first because their bodies have less fat and muscle reserves, and they waste away more quickly than adults.

Adults can appear relatively normal while their organs and overall health are deteriorating.

This is why medical professionals, UN agencies, and organisations such as UNICEF, Save the Children, WHO, and OCHA have all confirmed that there is a severe famine in Gaza, with critical shortages of food, water, and medical supplies.

As for the claim about ‘fully stocked shops,’ numerous independent reports and satellite imagery show widespread destruction of markets and supply chains. Occasional (falsified) photos don’t negate the overwhelming evidence on the ground.

Dismissing the starvation of nearly 1 million children as propaganda ignores documented, verifiable data from trusted humanitarian sources.

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:25

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/08/2025 10:21

Twiglets1 · 19/08/2025 10:15

The logical explanation is she was killed by accident like other civilians getting killed in wars. Living in a war zone, civilians will get killed but you insist they are “targeted” killings because they happen in Gaza.

Are none of the civilian deaths in other wars accidental in your view? Are they all targeted?

Yes, civilian deaths happen in other wars, and many are indeed tragic accidents.

But the scale and pattern in Gaza goes far beyond ‘accident.’

I don’t care if I have to keep repeating myself: We’re seeing repeated, documented instances of hospitals, ambulances, schools, and aid convoys being destroyed, deliberate blockades of food and medical supplies, and systematic bombing in densely populated areas.

When tens of thousands of children are killed and critical infrastructure is destroyed, repeatedly, across months, it cannot reasonably be dismissed as random ‘accidents.’ Children have been killed queuing for aid and water.

That’s why independent observers, human rights organisations, and legal experts are raising serious concerns about war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Hamiltonfan · 19/08/2025 10:20

Re starvation - I don't know about you but all the parents look very well fed. If it was my child they would have my food and I would "starve" before they feel any ill effects. Unfortunately all the pictures that have been posted of "starving children" have all come from other conflicts (Sudan etc), are children with congenital or medical issues (which mean they are malnourished despite eating an adequate amount of food), or produced by AI.

There are several Instagram accounts accessible to everyone showing fully stocked shops, markets and restaurants.

You are all Hamas' puppets for regurgitating their propaganda.

TulipLavender · 19/08/2025 10:19

Twiglets1 · 19/08/2025 09:59

This has all been discussed multiple times about civilians getting killed in every war, including children. There would have been no logical reason for the IDF to target this little girl though she was very unfortunately killed by one of their drones.

I'm not going to rehash old arguments over and over again as I know you like to do. It will be boring for me and for others reading this thread.

There is such criticism of Israel because we have seen time after time the deliberate targeting of civilians.

Hamas have been widely condemned for tge targeting of civilians. Ive not seen one poster say anything like, 'Hamas didn't mean to target civilians'. There is no debate - everyone agrees that they did and condemns it.

The reason for the constant criticism of Israel on this forum is that it is blatantly obvious that they have been targeting civilians (both directly through drones, sniper, tanks or indirectly through blockade and starvation).everytime anyone raises an example or a broad concern the pro-Israelis on here come on to deny, deflect or justify. Minimise or provide example of worse elsewhere - never have i heard any say - thats awful and shouldn’t have happened and needs to be stopped.

One example amongst hundreds - Hind Rajab - 300 plus bullets in her families car from an IDF tank - she was on the phone to the red cross who contacted the IDF for permission to get her. Her and the paramedics found killed.

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