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Many pro-Palestinians DO actually support Hamas

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ConscientiousObserver · 01/08/2025 11:07

There I said it.

Obviously they won’t come out and admit it, for fear of exposing themselves as supporters of evil, and also because they worry that they may be traced as it is supposedly illegal to support Hamas, as a proscribed terrorist group.

The evidence is all there -

The blind belief in the blatant Hamas propaganda which defies sense and logic.

The demonising descriptive language used to describe Israel.

The insistence that a war Israel didn’t start justifies Israeli and Jewish people around the work being persecuted, attacked and even murdered.

The protests against Israel but not Hamas who actually started the war.

The complete lack of interest or outrage in the Israeli hostages who actually included children and and a baby.

The calls for immediate ceasefire since the war started with no calls for Hamas to surrender.

The complete lack of accountability for Hamas and Palestinians in general.

I cannot fathom that anyone with a sane mind would support evil, barbaric murderers and rapists who also actively want to get their own civilians killed, and kill them themselves, so can we assume that for these people, their hatred of Israel and the Jewish people is greater than their care for human life as a whole.

A genuine question.

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Tatty247 · 01/08/2025 12:28

OP your post doesn't seem to make sense. You say there are all these people supposedly supporting Hamas, but then you say they won't admit it because they're afraid of exposing themselves as supporters of evil - why would people be supporting something they considered evil? Unless you're saying they are secretly evil as well and that's why they secretly support them? Who are all these evil people? I just don't understand how you're reaching your conclusions. It's like you've gone down a rabbit hole.

Or maybe you just think everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% must be an evil Hamas supporter?

No one thinks the Israeli hostage situation was anything other than horrific. Unfortunately it was never a priority for Netanyahu to get the hostages back, he was the one who didn't care or prioritise them and I think that was a terrible, terrible thing for those poor people. It's also terrible that Jewish people around the world are being targeted, that is a terrible thing too.

What's also terrible is that children are starving and being shot in Gaza and people calling them 'the sadder faces on SM' is really cold and heartless. So many people seem to have lost all compassion, even to the point where they have become completely racist - on another thread a poster was saying Arabs shouldn't be allowed to lead their own countries. There is so much hatred and 'if you're not 100% with us then you must be 100% against us'.

I just think the whole situation is very, very sad.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 01/08/2025 12:27

Of all of the threads I’ve been on- people have openly condemned Hamas, including myself.

Voxon · 01/08/2025 12:22

Yes, many do.

ConscientiousObserver · 01/08/2025 12:03

Why was my previous post deleted which said -

If someone is only outraged at Israel, it’s clear what they are supporting.
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Which is not Palestinians who want to live in peace.

Perhaps MN can explain why that broke Talk Guidelines?

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Dummydimmer · 01/08/2025 11:58

What is this more sinister cause? I have Jewish friends who also go on the marches. There's massive support from Ireland for the Palestinians because the Irish were driven off their land and experienced famine. This situation goes way beyond Hamas and goes back a long way. The British have dirty hands in this situation, starting with the Balfour declaration. You don't have to support Hamas to want a ceasefire and a peaceful settlement.

Comedycook · 01/08/2025 11:57

And I think people do like a simple goodie v baddie cause...it is like a football match. They don't want nuance or complicated issues to consider. They want to pick a side...and who should they pick? How should they decide? Well who looks sadder on social media posts?

ConscientiousObserver · 01/08/2025 11:53

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PrawnAgain · 01/08/2025 11:44

This isn't a football match where you pick side and blindly support them.

It is perfectly possible to be appalled by the actions of both Hamas and the Israeli government

But this is not what is happening.

The narrative is not at all on how Hamas is continuing to behave and how they are currently causing the suffering of Gazans for their own purposes. Instead all the blame is going on Israel, with no context as to how Israel are constrained by or responding to the action of Hamas, or how Hamas could reduce the inevitable suffering that is caused to civilians in war, but is instead deliberately ensuring Gazan civilian suffering. And how Hamas promises to commit more October 7th atrocities in the future.

Instead their is a complete silence on how Hamas is an active agent in the devastation in Gaza. But much noise about Israel.

Comedycook · 01/08/2025 11:50

I think you're right op. I also think a proportion of them are just useful idiots who have seen footage from Gaza and think it's sad and can't see beyond that at all. They have been brainwashed by a far more sinister cause.

PrawnAgain · 01/08/2025 11:44

This isn't a football match where you pick side and blindly support them.

It is perfectly possible to be appalled by the actions of both Hamas and the Israeli government

comfybeforeall · 01/08/2025 11:39

I agree.

Hamas have been completely written out the narrative by these people. As if Israel has not been reacting and responding to Hamas's actions ever since Hamas started this war on October 7th. They had to write Hamas out of the narrative to be able to present Israel as the bad guy.

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Sandyoldelbows · 01/08/2025 11:31

Agree.

And as for ‘queers for Palestine’ - the mind boggles.

Beachtastic · 01/08/2025 11:29

What worries me more is that a lot of people marching for "peace" have been brainwashed into a somewhat one-sided view of what peace looks like, and who for. The first "pro-P" demo in London (14 Oct) was applied for on 7 October as the attacks were unfolding, suggesting a deliberate effort to control the narrative and present the atrocities as a kind of freedom protest. DARVO indeed.

quantumbutterfly · 01/08/2025 11:18

It's possible. I'm hearing some troubling things irl.

AlphaFemaleNotBeta · 01/08/2025 11:12

Agree, it’s crazy.

Beachtastic · 01/08/2025 11:12

I agree, but I think MN is a difficult place to express this without being labelled a child murderer.

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