50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

Some of this is just petty semantics.

I am a Muslim, when another Muslim carries out a negative action and it's all over the press i DO feel unsafe and I DO blame the person for carrying out the crime which I know will lead to an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment. Maybe I'm just old school i don't know.

That ofcourse doesn't make it ok but it is the reality. It is silly to deny it.

Good point.
I’ve often thought this .

Completely agree.

I would also say the same about Muslims feeling unsafe for being blamed for 9/11. When that feeling of not being safe, actually stemmed from Islamophobia.

Both fair replies.

It’s also wrong to say “the government of Israel are making Jews unsafe” as if that’s understandable and ok …
A lot of people seem to think it’s ok to start talking about Gaza the minute a Jewish person is mentioned. It is anti semitic

If the pp was referring to jews being unsafe because of antisemitism, then the fault doesn't lie squarely with Israel, full stop.

This.

Israel or the current Government of Israel?
Surely there’s a distinction? To blame the civilian population of Israel for the egregious actions of its corrupt Government is just as wrong as blaming the civilian population of Gaza for the egregious actions of its terrorists leaders, obviously.

If I was being cynical, I would say this is yet another thread to distract away from the real news — the images of starving babies being deliberately murdered which are (rightly and finally) in the news this week.

Considering the OP is trying to convince and failing spectacularly in doing so that Palestinians are not starving - i have to agree.

Is a video that is 11 years old relevant to the current situation?

Your comments on starving babies and their “fat” mothers are sick.

Saying that Israel is to blame, for making Jews unsafe, amounts to what. If not antisemitic, it's victim blaming. It is most certainly an irresponsible thing to suggest, when jewish people aren't being targetted by other Jews and/or Israelis. It is certainly minimising antisemitism, which is the only thing making Jews feel unsafe. It's interesting that liberals are always quick to call racism, except when it comes to the Jewish community.

@mugglewump

. If it is true that there was only one inexperienced staff member on board to accompany 50 children, that is not acceptable in itself.

If you spend a bit more time and look elsewhere in the French press you'll see adult supervisor number given as 7 or 8, and in addition to the info you've quoted you'll see the holiday company/group tell their side of the story, and it's quite different to what Vueling are saying.

Hence this has all gone up to ministerial level in an attempt to get clarification.

A very fair statement.

Nobody should be above criticism.

Were it French Muslim children it’s unlikely that they would be wearing hijabs on a flight, assuming the summer camp were considered educational. Happy to stand corrected but it was my understanding that any outward display of religious allegiance is banned in educational and sporting settings in France?

Well, sorry to tell you this, it’s actual fact that in the past they....
So you are suggesting this is something all Palestinians do or is it extremists? Because your post suggests it is a common trait of Palestinians to send their kids into Israel strapped with suicide bombs. You are conflating all Palestinians with extremist behaviour

In your own words
Jews. Israelis. Hindus. Christians. Grouping an entire people together negatively is called racism
I'm actually flabbergasted you can't see the hypocrisy

It is definitely not true that any criticism of Israel is antisemitic. Obviously there are those who would like to say it is. Nobody is above criticism.

I've just looked this up on France24. I've added a link, but the specific paragraph below says: in a press release on Thursday, the Spanish Company (Vueling) blamed the adolescents, accusing them of 'inappropriate behaviour' and ' a strongly confrontational attitude' which put the flight in danger.

It is not the first time people have been pulled off a flight for inapprorpriate behaviour which could jepodise the safety passage of the flight. If it is true that there was only one inexperienced staff member on board to accompany 50 children, that is not acceptable in itself. In my view, Club Kineret (the operator) has quite a lot to answer for here.

Dans un communiqué publié jeudi, la compagnie espagnole a imputé cet incident aux adolescents, accusés d'avoir eu un "comportement inapproprié" et "une attitude fortement conflictuelle, mettant en péril le bon déroulement du vol".
https://www.france24.com/fr/europe/20250726-jeunes-fran%C3%A7ais-juifs-d%C3%A9barqu%C3%A9s-d-un-avion-en-espagne-paris-demande-des-explications

Absolutely this.

No, the post clearly stated that Israel are bringing hate on Jews. There is a specific word for that hate.

Correction: Israel, apparently are making Jews less safe.

At least they aren't hiding their victim blaming, I suppose. I take it we can now tell all victims of racism, that their fellow countrymen are to blame. Yes, you're also right about conflating Jews with Israel, in its entirety.

Jews. Israelis. Hindus. Christians. Grouping an entire people together negatively is called racism. There’s never a justification. No matter how hard you try to make one.

Well poverty and poisoned water were the reasons in the past. As long as it can be justified I guess…

No. It’s the fault of any criticism of Israel being deemed antisemitic. It deliberately conflates the two and that results in Jews and Israelis seen as one and the same.