50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

Yes this

I have no idea what French child safeguarding policies are like but this is well below any child/ adult ratios I know. I think it is logical to suggest that if the kids were a bit disruptive the airline may have had concern over adequate supervision on the plane when in flight and the group taken off until these issues could get rectified. Airline partly to blame for allowing this booking. Once they're on the plane it is the pilot that makes the ultimate decision of who can fly. Many people get taken off planes if they look too drunk it is a preventative measure because once you're in flight and things kick off safety is a massive concern.

I would imagine the supervisor may have been a bit confrontational and got arrested it doesn't take much to be arrested at an airport or on a flight for obvious reasons.

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

Yes this

I have no idea what French child safeguarding policies are like but this is well below any child/ adult ratios I know. I think it is logical to suggest that if the kids were a bit disruptive the airline may have had concern over adequate supervision on the plane when in flight and the group taken off until these issues could get rectified. Airline partly to blame for allowing this booking. Once they're on the plane it is the pilot that makes the ultimate decision of who can fly. Many people get taken off planes if they look too drunk it is a preventative measure because once you're in flight and things kick off safety is a massive concern.

I would imagine the supervisor may have been a bit confrontational and got arrested it doesn't take much to be arrested at an airport or on a flight for obvious reasons.

I agree if 50 teenagers were disruptive then they should be removed. It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though. Normally the kind of behaviour that warrants eviction is associated with adult drunkenness etc .
The manhandling and handcuffing of the 21 year old woman appeared excessive and unnecessary. Was she presenting a threat?
It all needs to be properly investigated.

It hasn't been reported in any credible new sources, it seemed to spread from a highly dubious Twitter post and has no corroboration from any party involed.

(I do see The Canary has picked it up as if it were fact).

A 21 year old in charge of 50 kids on her own?

That was always going to be a disaster and it was totally irresponsible to start with.

It just sounds to me like th crew had safety concerns that the kids were rowdy and bothering other passengers and that their carer could not handle them.

They made the sensible decision to ask them to leave before taking off.

Then it seems some people with agenda got involved and are trying to claim they were targeted just because they were Jewish which frankly just sounds like nonsense and trying to curry some sympathy while the world is now seeing the true horror of children starving to death in Gaza...

The crew's priority is the safety of the aircraft and of all passengers. Not political games.

I found this and it seems to be contradictory. Why get them to hide their religious and cultural identity and then allow them to sing Hebrew songs (note, the comment about the singing was made by Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism - so presumably a credible source)?

They could have been understandably worried about being subject to antisemitic attention, hence hiding their identities. But why out themselves by singing in Hebrew? And why sing at all in public? Imagine 50 British kids singing. No one wants to hear that in a public place.

'Thecampdirectorsinstructedthecampersto hide their Jewish identities as much as possible, by removing their yarmulkas and tzitzis and checking in tefilin under the plane.'

'Amichai Chikli, Israel’s Minister of Diaspora and Combating Antisemitism, posted to X that 50 Jewish French children were removed from their flight by Spanish police after some sang Hebrew songs before departure. He calls it one of the most serious of a spate of recent antisemitic incidents.'

Spain's Minister Of Transportation Shows His True Colors, Asking Spaniards To Stand With Vueling Over "Israeli" Brats...(They Are French Jews) - DansDeals.com

I agree if 50 teenagers were disruptive then they should be removed. It’s a very unusual in a situation like this though. Normally the kind of behaviour that warrants eviction is associated with adult drunkenness etc .
The manhandling and handcuffing of the 21 year old woman appeared excessive and unnecessary. Was she presenting a threat?
It all needs to be properly investigated.

There is no evidence for either side, except the adult being handcuffed and they all agree she was later released. Maybe we should reserve judgement until we DO have some evidence. But if 50 anyone were being disruptive I'd want them to kick them off the plane, don't care what they're saying or in what language.

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

Woah, you’re putting a lot of words in my mouth.

It has been reported multiple times that that was chanted, and that the children were being disruptive and interfering with safety equipment. Why are you so determined to not believe that?

This!
50 kids are going to be rowdy -the airline is to blame for allowing the booking without proper ratio -numerous safeguarding issues.

So from the responses, posters on here would be OK with 50 French Arab Muslim children, who have nothing to do with the Palestinians, being forcibly kicked off a plane by Spanish armed police for saying something in Arabic, and their young female supervisor being beaten to the ground and forcibly put into handcuffs because she refused to hand over the kids phones, because of what Hamas did on Oct 7th?

You also wouldn’t believe the children or witnesses that they weren’t being disruptive, despite there being no evidence that they were?

I wonder how many answers I’ll get to that……….

So you genuinely believe that children were kicked off a flight just for being Jewish?

So you genuinely believe that children were kicked off a flight just for being Jewish?

Because OP keeps going on about it, whilst ignoring the claims around the children being unruly.

I don’t disagree but that’s a separate incident isn’t it ? It has nothing to do with why the group of teenagers were removed from the flight.

I don’t see the value in conflating the two incidences in this discussion in particular. It’s perfectly possible the teenagers were being rowdy and disruptive and the minister is antisemitic. Only one event influenced the other.

This!
50 kids are going to be rowdy -the airline is to blame for allowing the booking without proper ratio -numerous safeguarding issues.

The point of what chants were being sung is irrelevant since the airline haven’t included it as part of their reasoning for kicking the teenagers off and it’s being denied that they were sung.

you’re getting you knickers in a twist over songs that have been denied as sung when there are no formal accusations in the first place.