50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

Anti-Semitism is Israel’s fault is quite the take 😳

Well, sorry to tell you this, it’s actual fact that in the past they have sent their children into Israel with bombs strapped to them to blow up civilians. They even got paid for it. And yes, I know terrorists who are not Palestinian or Muslim have also done this, but I’m taking specifically about what happened in Israel in the past 30 years or so.
I also want to say that you’re looking at this with western eyes, not Middle Eastern. Cultures and society function differently all over the world, sadly.

But they’re not conflating being Jewish with being Israeli so aren’t being anti-Semitic 🙄

So you're saying current antisemitism is the fault of Israel. I know the country gets blamed for the whole conflict, but you're out of order.

I presumed the pp was talking about airline crew losing their job for being antisemitic.

Eh?

Ah, then I misread the citing of reason for losing the airline job. Thank you.

If I was being cynical, I would say this is yet another thread to distract away from the real news — the images of starving babies being deliberately murdered which are (rightly and finally) in the news this week.

Did you know Israel has killed the equivalent of a classroom of children in Gaza for the past 600 days +. That’s a lot dead children. (Source Save the Children).

There is no place for anti semitism or violence in the world, but the blame for any incidents at the moment lies squarely at the door of the Israeli government who are making their own people and by extension Jewish people, less safe by carrying out these heinous atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank.

Can you not see that these two examples are not the same?

A teacher holding a placard is not the same as airline crew opting to delay departure and call the police. If they did this unnecessarily they would absolutely face consequences and probably lose their jobs.

Why listen to that particular Gazan but not the Gazans who, along with their families are starving today?

As I said earlier, if it was 50 bog standard British kids singing in an airport, they'd either be shut up pretty quickly or not allowed to board.

Time and place. And given they'd been hiding their religious identity (told by the adults to hide it), to then out themselves by singing in Hebrew seems a bit daft.

Your confidence in randoms on twitter is really something. I suggest you get your information from news or medical sources rather than X and insta.

My post above was a response to this.^^

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say.

Away and educate yourself on starvation in adults and children. Adults can survive much longer without food than children. Children's immature immune systems mean they are more susceptible to illness which exacerbates the starvation.

You'd have to have very sick ideas about Palestinians and Muslims to believe they'd deliberately starve their children.

I think it’s entirely possible for people/staff to have extreme views of a group of people based on what they seen in the media. The current narrative that seems to be prevalent at the moment regarding Israel, it’s possible that some people may think of Israelis as being a nation of violent, genocidal maniacs intent on occupying everywhere after having exterminated all the Arabs they come across which may colour their view when they meet people they believe are Israeli. Add to that many people conflate being Jewish with being Israeli and it’s not outwith the realms of possibility that the flight crew perceived the children through the lens of anti-Jewish sentiment and were less tolerant of totally normal behaviour because of their perceptions that Israelis are violent, genocidal maniacs ie they were being racist.

I know it says that the police made the children delete any videos of the incident but maybe they could be recovered.

There's probably something to the story, because it's clearly being taken very seriously - it would be crazy to push it this far if one cellphone video would prove the airline right.

On the one hand it would be crazy if the crew really did make racist comments and remove the children from the plane out of malice, but then again the cruise ship situation in Greece was mad too.

Because somehow people think that bringing it up justifies racism.

Anyhow..about this flight.

Latest news French side of the channel (sources such as Le Figaro) is this isn't going to go away quickly or quietly...at least one French minister wants an explanation from the Vueling CEO (they have promised a thorough investigation) and the Spanish Ambassador to France has been invited for a discussion.

IMO Vueling management have to back up the crew, almost regardless of whether their course of action was justified.

That's only going to change if compelling witness statements and/or camera phone footage becomes available that shows the crew behaved improperly.

@Anonimummy
Well yes - that’s a fair point.
Until we know the truth of what happened then maybe this discussion belongs on a different board?
It seems to me that Gaza is only relevant to those who feel that the French children were first and foremost Jews ( “Israeli brats”) who represent Israel in some way.

Nothing I was responding to a post maybe direct that comment to them.