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Why aren't women and children being evacuated from gaza?

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AutumnFog · 24/07/2025 02:40

I've just seen horrific photos of starving children on a news article. Why on earth are we not evacuating them? The population isn't huge, if split between many countries the cost of supporting them would be minimal compared to other expenditure.
I don't understand how it's been left to get to this point without anyone intervening, or really how everyone hasn't intervened.
Who cares about the land at this point, these are children who are likely to die by the look of them, who could live a happy healthy life somewhere else.

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Tfmrhelpafterwards · 24/07/2025 17:47

starpatch · 24/07/2025 07:36

Israel literally won't let Palestinians leave Gaza.

We were quick enough to get Ukrainians in need over here. What would actually happen if KS told Israel he was sending a plane to evacuate some women and children ? Would they actually stop us doing that ?

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:47

soddingspiderseason · 24/07/2025 17:44

I think a good question is why doesn’t Egypt open its border with Gaza? They could offer safe asylum for Gazans. I’m sure that would be acceptable to Israel. So why is there no analysis of why this isn't happening? It seems the most logical solution.

The truth is too uncomfortable and would destabilise the new hate for Israel. The wheels on the bandwagon would soon come rolling off. Then again, I think some are just too entrenched now. They've swallowed the narrative, hook line and sinker.

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:46

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

Okay, then check out the YouTube channel travelingisrael.com with the video titled “Palestinian propaganda exposed. The Gaza victim videos are fake”
The guy doesn’t strike me as a liar.

TakeMe2Insanity · 24/07/2025 17:45

starpatch · 24/07/2025 07:36

Israel literally won't let Palestinians leave Gaza.

This.

But also if Palestinians leave they lose the right to return to their land. Then there’s issues around being stateless (passports etc).

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:45

notimagain · 24/07/2025 17:43

"Black September" ring any bells?

Might just explain why Jordan has seemingly been reluctant to take refugees.

If they didn't know how to pin point Gaza on a map prior 7/10, you've got no chance with Black September!

soddingspiderseason · 24/07/2025 17:44

I think a good question is why doesn’t Egypt open its border with Gaza? They could offer safe asylum for Gazans. I’m sure that would be acceptable to Israel. So why is there no analysis of why this isn't happening? It seems the most logical solution.

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:44

Humanitarian organizations have said there is no evidence tying significant diversion of aid to Hamas, and Israel has presented none publicly. But it is those claims that have prompted Israel to seek to replace traditional humanitarian organizations with GHF, which they said would prevent Hamas from obtaining the aid.

notimagain · 24/07/2025 17:43

"Black September" ring any bells?

Might just explain why Jordan has seemingly been reluctant to take refugees.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:41

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

Trust the UN? Oh please. As for the BBC, Gaza documentary and the antics at Glastonbury? They are completely biased.

needtostopnamechanging · 24/07/2025 17:39

Whatever you have seen on YouTube I think I trust the BBC and UN and over 100 aid agencies who are quite clear that starvation is possible if not already happening

its quite horrific that people try to deny the horror

BorgQueen · 24/07/2025 17:38

If, big if, children are starving- it’s down to Hamas stealing the aid and it ends up on market stalls at inflated prices.
Hamas DON’T want a ceasefire, they would happily martyr every single Woman child for their ‘cause’.

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:33

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

Which one have you been reading?

See what Norman Finkelstein has said/written. His parents were actual Holocaust survivors. That could be a good starting point.

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:32

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:29

The starving children thing has already been debunked. It’s Palestinian propaganda. They basically put children who have cancer in front of the camera and make them say things for the footage. I saw it on YouTube.

I’ve seen “footage” of bigfoot on Youtube doesn’t mean it’s real, nothing is debunked by a Youtube video. Children are starving and dying from starvation, amongst a plethora of other things.

Jerrypicker · 24/07/2025 17:29

The starving children thing has already been debunked. It’s Palestinian propaganda. They basically put children who have cancer in front of the camera and make them say things for the footage. I saw it on YouTube.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:29

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:26

I think we all know this didn’t just start on October 7th 🙄🙄

I know it didn't. I also know it didn't start in 1948.

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:26

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

Which one have you been reading?

I think we all know this didn’t just start on October 7th 🙄🙄

GrammarTeacher · 24/07/2025 17:26

Young people with university offers in the UK aren’t being allowed in by our government (several Cambridge Colleges lobbying on their behalf at the moment). I wouldn’t know whether there is also a problem leaving but I suspect given the situation that it is difficult to leave Gaza now. In these situations it becomes harder and harder to leave. All borders are closed. There are no embassies to approach. How exactly would they go about leaving? Head to a check point and ask nicely?

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:23

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:21

Huh? When hamas started this war? Pick up a history book please.

Which one have you been reading?

nomoretreats · 24/07/2025 17:21

SharonEllis · 24/07/2025 06:12

When Hamas started the war they had no plan to evacuate their civilians and they knew full well other states in the region wouldn't. And they don't care about them.

Huh? When hamas started this war? Pick up a history book please.

quantumbutterfly · 24/07/2025 17:21

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:17

Perhaps she could donate it to the Humanitarian crisis, which her husband helped create.

Yeah, more chance of me winning the lottery. (and I'd be more inclined to donate to the hostage families forum tbh, they don't get much of a mention in the marches)

TrelawnyBastian · 24/07/2025 17:20

I think Egypt should at least open the border to let aid in, if they do not wan’t to evacuate the Palestinians in. I think there are many complexities for Egypt, financially, politically etc.
However, if Israel allowed aid in regularly the people of Gaza would have more food, they could stop bombing hospitals to smithereens, so medical care could continue

The world is watching whilst innocent children are starving to death and nothing can justify why this is allowed to happen.

Dangermoo · 24/07/2025 17:17

quantumbutterfly · 24/07/2025 17:11

Allegedly sinwar's wife made it out via Egypt with a bag of cash, I guess it depends who you know.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/24/world-news/slain-hamas-chief-yahya-sinwars-smuggled-out-of-gaza-and-is-already-remarried-report/

Perhaps she could donate it to the Humanitarian crisis, which her husband helped create.

ohdelay · 24/07/2025 17:05

How come Egypt gets a free ride here. Israel is at war with Gaza, why isn't evacuation and aid being funnelled through Egypt's border? Why is no one protesting outside the Egyptian embassy saying let them in, send them food?

ThisIsInsane · 24/07/2025 17:00

hellohellooo · 24/07/2025 14:45

Well that's it in it's entirety
You may read some garbage deflecting the blame from Israel

How does that work when it is insisted Israel wants to ethnically cleanse Palestinians?

Make it make sense!

Had Egypt offered to open its borders, and Israel had refused its kind offer?

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