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Why aren't women and children being evacuated from gaza?

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AutumnFog · 24/07/2025 02:40

I've just seen horrific photos of starving children on a news article. Why on earth are we not evacuating them? The population isn't huge, if split between many countries the cost of supporting them would be minimal compared to other expenditure.
I don't understand how it's been left to get to this point without anyone intervening, or really how everyone hasn't intervened.
Who cares about the land at this point, these are children who are likely to die by the look of them, who could live a happy healthy life somewhere else.

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needtostopnamechanging · 25/07/2025 13:31

No I think you find more and more people believe it

and there are far more people suggesting it isn’t happening than I ever saw suggesting the hostages were happy

I never saw that
but there are at least a couple of genocide deniers on here

DorothyWainwright · 25/07/2025 13:27

I expect it suits the violent men in power, on all sides, to keep them there.

Kakeandkake · 25/07/2025 13:22

You know the ones who dismiss and deny starvation in Gaza are like the ones who say hostages had a great time in Gaza.

Two sides of the same coin.

Both deluded.

Kakeandkake · 25/07/2025 13:21

Jerrypicker · 25/07/2025 13:17

Of course far fewer people try to deny the starvation in Syria or Yemen. Because it is proven as a fact. Starvation in Gaza? I’m yet to see credible, unbiased proof. In fact more and more people doubt it.

Please tell me which credible organisations are refuting claims of starvation in Gaza?

Jerrypicker · 25/07/2025 13:17

needtostopnamechanging · 25/07/2025 12:43

I do complain about the starving children elsewhere but at least there are far fewer people trying to justify or deny their starvation

Of course far fewer people try to deny the starvation in Syria or Yemen. Because it is proven as a fact. Starvation in Gaza? I’m yet to see credible, unbiased proof. In fact more and more people doubt it.

needtostopnamechanging · 25/07/2025 12:43

I do complain about the starving children elsewhere but at least there are far fewer people trying to justify or deny their starvation

Jerrypicker · 25/07/2025 11:38

It’s interesting I never see a starving Hamas soldier. They are all muscly, full of energy for fighting, shouting, punching, stomping around and all the drama. So they either eat all the food from the children they are supposed to protect (nasty and greedy) or nobody is starving in Gaza, and they just use it as a weapon to make Israel look bad.
The “women and children” propaganda is always used heavily to play on the soft heart of woke liberal Westerners.
Why don’t people complain about the starving children of Yemen and Syria? Because they don’t give a shiiiiiit! Their charity is somehow selective.

Tiredofwhataboutery · 25/07/2025 09:30

Bumble6 · 25/07/2025 07:19

Good points. It's something that so many people seem to brush over when discussing this conflict because their hatred for anything Israeli is so strong now.
If Israel suddenly allowed all citizens to leave Gaza, many other countries, due to things that have occurred in the past, would not be keen to take refugees from there anyway.
I've not seen many mentions of what happened in places like Kuwait.
It's all very well people shouting at anyone who discusses these things saying that they don't care about children dying etc but it's so important to look at what has happened in this region for so many years and why it's really not as simple as just saying we need to stop all the killing immediately.
I want this awful situation to end ASAP but there needs to be discussions, as uncomfortable as they might be, as to why and how things have got to this place to start with.

I’d agree I think it’s really important to consider the wider situation. I get that the photos are shocking (and beautifully shot) and I want the conflict to end. I want all the conflicts to end, can you imagine what humanity would be capable of if we actually worked together rather than a series of conflicts where some people get very rich and lots of people suffer.

I don’t think Hamas cares about civilians they are a human shield and can be used, starved and disposed of as necessary. Within the region this is not new or shocking. People and especially children suffering and dying from acute malnutrition is not new or shocking. The rates of children in Sudan suffering from acute malnutrition is about double that of the Palestinian based on information coming from the UN.

I do hope people consider why we are being fed information about this conflict and to what end. I don’t think knee jerk reactions to public opinions seem to make for good long term decision making. However that seems to be increasingly the way the western world is going.

Supersimkin7 · 25/07/2025 08:36

Cos no one wants Hamas and their supporters. Rightly so.

Imagine if people had started agonising about Hitler and his supporters not having enough lunch in 1943.

user1492757084 · 25/07/2025 08:31

Hamas need to return the captives and they need to stop taking the food and medicine off women and children.

Sandyoldelbows · 25/07/2025 08:28

Three things from me.

  1. Egypt and Jordan have both previously had their fingers burnt when allowing Palestinians into their countries.

  2. The suffering of the children is horrific. But I was watching the BBC last night, a man holding a clearly very unwell child, it was shocking. But it was also noticeable that he himself looked well fed and well groomed. Much of the footage we are seeing of clearly hungry people has well fed men in the background. And this is in stories emphasising the plight of women and children, not stories trying to refute it. Why? Who are these men? Why don’t these men put women and children first?

  3. I can’t think of anything worse than having a baby in Gaza at the moment, it must be horrific and my heart breaks for the women and children. But any baby born now has been conceived in these conditions. Why are men still impregnating women in this situation? It’s wicked IMO. Why is this never discussed?

My own observation is that there is a substantial group of Palestinian men who really don’t care about women and children. Their spending on tunnels and weapons shows this (how come they still have loads of weapons if they’ve run out of food - priorities?). Their initial attack showed this, their refusal to release the hostages shows this, their lack of care of their own women and children shows this. How can we expect Israel to tolerate these people (men). I feel very sorry for ordinary people whose future has been wrecked largely by their own government.

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 08:23

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:21

I'm talking about when they are compared, on here, to score points.
Often it is to demonstrate the reality of what is happening to those trying to justify it which is sick that it has to be done

You can really keep trying to prove something with trying to shame me and other posters
I don't need to try and do anything people can read all your posts and form their own opinion

Good job I'm not at all perturbed by those people's opinions. I will stand by what I have the right to say.

Comedycook · 25/07/2025 08:22

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:18

Well my eyes are wide open I am not going to debate this with you. You are obviously entrenched in your denial.

I haven't seen a starving adult...have you? I'm pretty sure if there were starving adults, we'd have seen them or been told about them.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:21

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 08:11

I'm talking about when they are compared, on here, to score points. You can really keep trying to prove something with trying to shame me and other posters, but you won't be getting us to stop talking.

I'm talking about when they are compared, on here, to score points.
Often it is to demonstrate the reality of what is happening to those trying to justify it which is sick that it has to be done

You can really keep trying to prove something with trying to shame me and other posters
I don't need to try and do anything people can read all your posts and form their own opinion

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 08:19

quantumbutterfly · 25/07/2025 08:09

I think they've discovered buddhism, and may be re-incarnated as an ant.

😆 🤣 😂

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:18

Comedycook · 25/07/2025 08:09

I saw a child on the news last night who was starving....they also had an underlying medical condition. Like I said, terrible. But we have been told for months and months that Gaza is on the brink of a famine..always on the brink....now I have no doubt there's not enough food. But months and months turning into years and not a single starving adult shown on any media that I've seen?

At the end of 2023 we were told they were hours away from running out of water...it's mid 2025 now...

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Well my eyes are wide open I am not going to debate this with you. You are obviously entrenched in your denial.

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 08:17

nomoretreats · 25/07/2025 08:10

You haven’t debunked shit. Children are being killed. I don’t care what religion they are. They are children and shouldn’t be killed while trying to wait in a line for food, at a concert or trying to sleep in a tent.

i can say names as well and in fact there’s a lot more than the ones you’ve quoted. 20,000 give or take. But in this instance I’ll just give one.

Hind Rajab killed and Israel denied it until the audio came out. The car she was traveling in was shot at 355 times.

I don't care either about the religion of those killed or murdered. However, as this board , primarily contains reference to the plight of one religion, to the exclusion of the other, I like to provide balance.

nomoretoriesforme · 25/07/2025 08:14

I see truth hurts, got your visceral reaction.. Israel is not in the same position as Gaza. You don’t see skeletal children in Israel and they are freely leaving the country if they want. Gaza is a concentration camp right now

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 08:11

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:08

Happens regularly where? IDF and Hamas are in conflict and fatalities for both will be reported and compared to ascertain who has the upper hand. That is not the same as what you were doing

I'm talking about when they are compared, on here, to score points. You can really keep trying to prove something with trying to shame me and other posters, but you won't be getting us to stop talking.

nomoretreats · 25/07/2025 08:10

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 07:50

I wonder if those sources produced a similar poster for Shiri, and her murdered babies, Ariel and Kfir Bibas.

You haven’t debunked shit. Children are being killed. I don’t care what religion they are. They are children and shouldn’t be killed while trying to wait in a line for food, at a concert or trying to sleep in a tent.

i can say names as well and in fact there’s a lot more than the ones you’ve quoted. 20,000 give or take. But in this instance I’ll just give one.

Hind Rajab killed and Israel denied it until the audio came out. The car she was traveling in was shot at 355 times.

quantumbutterfly · 25/07/2025 08:09

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 07:40

Oh and I'd like to know what you mean by karma is a bitch.

I think they've discovered buddhism, and may be re-incarnated as an ant.

Comedycook · 25/07/2025 08:09

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:07

I'm well aware of how it works...I've read several books on famine.
Seriously you have read books on it? I prefer to listen to the expert doctors who have been reporting on this from Gaza Your comment was callous and minimising and also questioning the reality of what is happening however you would like to dress it up.

The starving children I've seen on the news have had underlying medical conditions.
How do you know that? and even if they are it shows the most vulnerable are dying and unless there is urgent action more will follow.

I saw a child on the news last night who was starving....they also had an underlying medical condition. Like I said, terrible. But we have been told for months and months that Gaza is on the brink of a famine..always on the brink....now I have no doubt there's not enough food. But months and months turning into years and not a single starving adult shown on any media that I've seen?

At the end of 2023 we were told they were hours away from running out of water...it's mid 2025 now...

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:08

Dangermoo · 25/07/2025 07:57

When you say it's not a competition, can you remember that when the numbers of fatalities are compared via IDF and Hamas. This happens regularly. Thanks.

Happens regularly where? IDF and Hamas are in conflict and fatalities for both will be reported and compared to ascertain who has the upper hand. That is not the same as what you were doing

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 25/07/2025 08:07

Comedycook · 25/07/2025 07:59

I'm well aware of how it works...I've read several books on famine.

We were told over a year ago that Gaza was on the brink of famine....how long can people, even healthy adults survive without food.... certainly not more than a year.

The starving children I've seen on the news have had underlying medical conditions...tragic of course.

I'm well aware of how it works...I've read several books on famine.
Seriously you have read books on it? I prefer to listen to the expert doctors who have been reporting on this from Gaza Your comment was callous and minimising and also questioning the reality of what is happening however you would like to dress it up.

The starving children I've seen on the news have had underlying medical conditions.
How do you know that? and even if they are it shows the most vulnerable are dying and unless there is urgent action more will follow.

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