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The photos coming out of Gaza are horrific.

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Readnotscroll · 23/07/2025 20:08

How much longer can we watch this, and our government remain complicit.

Anyone have anything constructive we can be doing. I have written to my MP, although not attended a march

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Soontobe60 · 02/08/2025 18:49

ScrollingLeaves · 02/08/2025 15:55

I never saw that fake showing a before photo of Telaviv but purporting to be Gaza.

I did, however, hear and see Jeremy Bowen on one of the Jordanian planes dropping aid out of the huge opening in the plane out of which he could look down at the landscape of Northern Gaza below. He said he had known Gaza well before, and described that what he was now looking at shows it had been totally wiped out.

The aid dropping planes had only been allowed by Israel on condition that no photographs/videos were taken.

I believe Jeremy Bowen. See about 3:30 mins in:

https://x.com/aziz0nomics/status/1951266917529837899?s=61&t=gKvvk-rWmOlYFGMZN8QVvQ

https://x.com/aziz0nomics/status/1951266917529837899?s=61&t=gKvvk-rWmOlYFGMZN8QVvQ

ScrollingLeaves · 02/08/2025 15:55

Soontobe60 · 02/08/2025 10:22

Sadly, AI seems to be being utilised for both sides along with misinformation and outright lies. For example, a photo posted on X recently claims to be a before / after image of Gaza but in reality the ‘before’ photo is of Tel Aviv.

I never saw that fake showing a before photo of Telaviv but purporting to be Gaza.

I did, however, hear and see Jeremy Bowen on one of the Jordanian planes dropping aid out of the huge opening in the plane out of which he could look down at the landscape of Northern Gaza below. He said he had known Gaza well before, and described that what he was now looking at shows it had been totally wiped out.

The aid dropping planes had only been allowed by Israel on condition that no photographs/videos were taken.

I believe Jeremy Bowen. See about 3:30 mins in:

NameChangedOfc · 02/08/2025 10:49

Readnotscroll · 25/07/2025 06:59

And why, as a network aimed largely at mothers, is this not something being discussed on this website. I feel people are fearful of being called anti semetic if they speak out but this now a humane issue.

Personally, the horror is too much to bear. I've completely shut off from the issue because I think I can't do anything about it. I've invested my youth in protests, actions, reflections, demonstrations, gatherings of all kinds; I feel we are truly impotent and I feel very pessimistic (bordering on cynical) about this particular conflict. I actively avoid this topic of discussion. It's unbearable.
I'm sorry for the rambling: I guess I'm just trying to make sense.
Now that I'm older, for the first time I've opened myself to the arguments of zionists and pro-Israel people: I understand and even agree with some of them. But I can't force myself to deny that this is a genocide. And I am not doing anything about it.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 02/08/2025 10:38

OneNeatBlueOrca · 31/07/2025 23:38

Are you aware that in sudan unicef has reported that child rape is widespread.

Armed men in sudan are raping children and babies as young as one as an act of war.

Never mind the fact that they are also starving and children are resorting to eating rats, soil and tree leaves for food.

Can you believe this is happening to children and babies in the twenty first century?

Are you writing to your MP? Did you even know? I doubt it.

What is it with Gaza that has everybody so fired up but you couldn't give a toss about the rest of the world and probably don't even know. It as if is the only conflict on earth.

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@They hate Jews. Lots of proven propaganda coming out of Gaza too and HAMAS regularly seize the aid for themselves but that doesn’t suit the antisemites narrative.

Soontobe60 · 02/08/2025 10:22

Mercurial123 · 02/08/2025 09:12

What's even worse is pro Israel supporters are circulating a video from 2017 on SM from a medical training video where "wounds" are applied with cosmetics and stating that the Palestinians are faking the injuries in this conflict. Many are stupid enough to believe it.

Sadly, AI seems to be being utilised for both sides along with misinformation and outright lies. For example, a photo posted on X recently claims to be a before / after image of Gaza but in reality the ‘before’ photo is of Tel Aviv.

MrsEverest · 02/08/2025 09:42

OneNeatBlueOrca · 31/07/2025 23:38

Are you aware that in sudan unicef has reported that child rape is widespread.

Armed men in sudan are raping children and babies as young as one as an act of war.

Never mind the fact that they are also starving and children are resorting to eating rats, soil and tree leaves for food.

Can you believe this is happening to children and babies in the twenty first century?

Are you writing to your MP? Did you even know? I doubt it.

What is it with Gaza that has everybody so fired up but you couldn't give a toss about the rest of the world and probably don't even know. It as if is the only conflict on earth.

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Surely the quickest best thing to do would be to share the top five things you’ve done about Sudan? Not all of the things you’ve done about this cause you’re passionate about, just the top five?

All I’ve done about Sudan is donate to UNICEF but as it’s a cause you know a lot about and are committed to, you’ll be able to make great suggestions. I can’t really understand why you didn’t include them in this post…….it certainly wouldn’t be that you’re using an humanitarian disaster
to make a very weak point.

So hit us with your tips!

Mercurial123 · 02/08/2025 09:12

What's even worse is pro Israel supporters are circulating a video from 2017 on SM from a medical training video where "wounds" are applied with cosmetics and stating that the Palestinians are faking the injuries in this conflict. Many are stupid enough to believe it.

ScrollingLeaves · 02/08/2025 07:12

OneNeatBlueOrca · 31/07/2025 23:38

Are you aware that in sudan unicef has reported that child rape is widespread.

Armed men in sudan are raping children and babies as young as one as an act of war.

Never mind the fact that they are also starving and children are resorting to eating rats, soil and tree leaves for food.

Can you believe this is happening to children and babies in the twenty first century?

Are you writing to your MP? Did you even know? I doubt it.

What is it with Gaza that has everybody so fired up but you couldn't give a toss about the rest of the world and probably don't even know. It as if is the only conflict on earth.

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Are they being paid to do it by the USA and our government? Are a good number of the people abetting or doing this also citizens from the USA and Europe and descendants of the same?

What is it about this line of interruption to the thread about a so called civilised democracy carrying out this total destruction of Gaza, stealing of the Palestinian’s land in the West Bank and starvation of Palestinians, that it comes up again and again on these threads?

Do you aim to show the perpetrators of depraved savagery in Sudan as being the comparators to the leaders of Israel?

Why not start another thread about Sudan and include links about who among our governments are encouraging it, what NGOs to send money to, and whom to write to in our government about it?

LuckyHare · 02/08/2025 05:47

I'm not sure if we're allowed to share things like this but this is a link to the sameer project https://linktr.ee/thesameerproject it's a Palestinian led mutual aid project that provides emergency support like shelter, food, water, and medical care to displaced families in Gaza

The Sameer Project | Instagram | Linktree

We are a donations based aid initiative for Gaza led by Palestinians,

https://linktr.ee/thesameerproject

Joiu · 01/08/2025 16:21

BBC TikTok
vm.tiktok.com/ZNd9jVLNj/

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 01/08/2025 10:23

I’ve started a thread in Philosophy & Religion called “One Child a Day: Remembering Gaza’s Children”.

It’s not for debate, just a space to post the names and stories of some of the children killed. One a day, quietly, for those who want to bear witness in that way.

You’re welcome to follow, reflect, or just read. 🕯️

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 01/08/2025 09:24

Readnotscroll · 23/07/2025 20:08

How much longer can we watch this, and our government remain complicit.

Anyone have anything constructive we can be doing. I have written to my MP, although not attended a march

Unfortunately, you’re going to get some prolific posters turn this thread into a huge debate. If you looking for things you can do- DM me and I’ll pass along the names of other users who might have some advice too.

BelleHathor · 01/08/2025 08:42

MissyB1 · 01/08/2025 08:19

Has the British Government been directly supporting the horrific things happening in Sudan? Has the UK been involved in creating some of those terrible situations? Did the UK support killing innocent people in Sudan? If you believe that happened please could you link evidence? Because that's the difference!! How many times does this need explaining? The UK has supported a genocide in Gaza, they need to take some bloody responsibility for ending it.

Don't waste your breath. Sudan is only ever mentioned as some kind of gotcha. Some people care so much that they never make threads about Sudan/Yemen etc. The other conflicts are only mentioned in as an attempt to whitewash the crimes the IDF are committing.

I don't randomly mention Sudan, as I would never use the trauma my Sudanese friends are suffering as some sort of propaganda.

MissyB1 · 01/08/2025 08:19

OneNeatBlueOrca · 31/07/2025 23:38

Are you aware that in sudan unicef has reported that child rape is widespread.

Armed men in sudan are raping children and babies as young as one as an act of war.

Never mind the fact that they are also starving and children are resorting to eating rats, soil and tree leaves for food.

Can you believe this is happening to children and babies in the twenty first century?

Are you writing to your MP? Did you even know? I doubt it.

What is it with Gaza that has everybody so fired up but you couldn't give a toss about the rest of the world and probably don't even know. It as if is the only conflict on earth.

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Has the British Government been directly supporting the horrific things happening in Sudan? Has the UK been involved in creating some of those terrible situations? Did the UK support killing innocent people in Sudan? If you believe that happened please could you link evidence? Because that's the difference!! How many times does this need explaining? The UK has supported a genocide in Gaza, they need to take some bloody responsibility for ending it.

SharonEllis · 01/08/2025 07:41

I suppose you could try the things that have worked before in other contexts? Maybe the effective actions you took for Syria? The Uighyurs? Somalia, DRC, Yemen?

OneNeatBlueOrca · 31/07/2025 23:38

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Are you aware that in sudan unicef has reported that child rape is widespread.

Armed men in sudan are raping children and babies as young as one as an act of war.

Never mind the fact that they are also starving and children are resorting to eating rats, soil and tree leaves for food.

Can you believe this is happening to children and babies in the twenty first century?

Are you writing to your MP? Did you even know? I doubt it.

What is it with Gaza that has everybody so fired up but you couldn't give a toss about the rest of the world and probably don't even know. It as if is the only conflict on earth.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 31/07/2025 13:09

I don’t know why my reply was deleted. I was just suggesting people check instagram threads for families to support- perhaps I was too specific.

Grassroots charities like palestine Red Crescent have been recommended to me by lots of aid workers and medics.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 31/07/2025 01:19

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Turmerictolly · 26/07/2025 00:32

There is a thread where you can sign petitions, Save the Children etc. Also libby your MP. It’s really horrific.

Whatisthisdamnednonsense · 26/07/2025 00:27

No words to express the horror. Teenager DC have never seen anything like it on the news and they now hate the state of Israel. It’s not anti Semitic to judge criticise or loathe the actions of the Netanyahu administration.

Wintersgirl · 26/07/2025 00:22

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I know, it's like 99.9% of the world can see what Israel is doing and yet the ones in power do NOTHING, it sickens me the core...

smallglassbottle · 25/07/2025 11:18

Readnotscroll · 25/07/2025 06:59

And why, as a network aimed largely at mothers, is this not something being discussed on this website. I feel people are fearful of being called anti semetic if they speak out but this now a humane issue.

It has to be discussed in this section.

Readnotscroll · 25/07/2025 06:59

And why, as a network aimed largely at mothers, is this not something being discussed on this website. I feel people are fearful of being called anti semetic if they speak out but this now a humane issue.

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Ineedpeaceandquiet · 25/07/2025 06:58

Truly, truly dreadful and horrifying.

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