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How many have been arrested in pro Israel rallies against antisemitism ?

70 replies

mids2019 · 19/07/2025 19:54

None.

Yet 96 pro Palestinians have been arrested in hate marches in London under anti terrorism law.

I think that is telling in itself

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Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:38

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:32

Me patronising yet you presume to know more about the Middle East than me. Ironic.
It’s not ‘funny’ how people care about this one. You also don’t know what other conflicts people care about. And why must we qualify our support for Palestine by demonstrating how much we support other causes? ( I was waiting for this one to come up again).

You don’t have to demonstrate that you support other causes. It’s just interesting to speculate why it’s this one in particular that excites such strong feelings (even before the current situation in Gaza, which I condemn).

Just as it would be interesting to speculate why a black driver speeding was pulled over by police when white drivers speeding were not.

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:34

Pollysoftheworld · 20/07/2025 11:29

I have friends who are Israeli and I have sympathy with those who lost friends and family in the October attacks. That said, we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what is happening now, which is out and out ethnic cleansing. I had to pull over in my car the other day as they played a recording on the radio of an eight year old boy finding his class mate dead, he was just wailing and as someone with an eight year old, it just made me weep. If this isn’t genocide what is it? What did that boy do? What did the people waiting in queues for aid or in hospital do? Palestine Action are largely people at the end of their tether, who can’t believe that the world is letting this happen. Why are we staying silent, why are we still arming Israel or training their defence? I can understand how people are forced to take to the streets, how else will anyone take action?

@BibiSuzanne was clear that Palestine Action were formed and 'protesting' before the current war.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:34

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:21

Your dissertation would need to contain much evidence to support your hypothesis - factual, not emotive, that is.

Don’t you worry. I have lots of factual evidence.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:32

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:24

I know all about the history of the Middle East, thanks. Probably a lot more than you do, despite your patronising tone.

Sadly there are territorial conflicts all over the world. Funny how it’s just this one that some people are interested in or care about (and cared about even before the current disaster in Gaza).

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Me patronising yet you presume to know more about the Middle East than me. Ironic.
It’s not ‘funny’ how people care about this one. You also don’t know what other conflicts people care about. And why must we qualify our support for Palestine by demonstrating how much we support other causes? ( I was waiting for this one to come up again).

Pollysoftheworld · 20/07/2025 11:31

@Samiloffname one other ‘territorial conflict’ which is as disproportionate as this one in terms of one being a global superpower and one being a group of displaced, marginalised people who have been degraded and dehumanised for years?

Pollysoftheworld · 20/07/2025 11:29

I have friends who are Israeli and I have sympathy with those who lost friends and family in the October attacks. That said, we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what is happening now, which is out and out ethnic cleansing. I had to pull over in my car the other day as they played a recording on the radio of an eight year old boy finding his class mate dead, he was just wailing and as someone with an eight year old, it just made me weep. If this isn’t genocide what is it? What did that boy do? What did the people waiting in queues for aid or in hospital do? Palestine Action are largely people at the end of their tether, who can’t believe that the world is letting this happen. Why are we staying silent, why are we still arming Israel or training their defence? I can understand how people are forced to take to the streets, how else will anyone take action?

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:24

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:19

israel have been killing Palestinians long before 7th October. Do a little research.

I know all about the history of the Middle East, thanks. Probably a lot more than you do, despite your patronising tone.

Sadly there are territorial conflicts all over the world. Funny how it’s just this one that some people are interested in or care about (and cared about even before the current disaster in Gaza).

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:21

Your dissertation would need to contain much evidence to support your hypothesis - factual, not emotive, that is.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:19

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:17

So they don’t even have the 'excuse' that they were protesting against 'genocide', starvation etc!

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israel have been killing Palestinians long before 7th October. Do a little research.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:18

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:14

I have marked many a GCSE essay, amongst others. I'm just pointing out I'm reminded of those days.

Presumably the GCSE curriculum was based on fact.
But I in reality you are having a dig at me personally for what I wrote. I could write a Masters dissertation if you prefer but it would take too long and this thread would have moved on.

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:17

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 08:09

Here you go again twisting things. Palestine Action has nothing to do with Hamas and October 7th.
Palestine Action was established in July 2020 when activists broke into Elbit systems and spray painted the interior.
So 3 years before!!!!

So they don’t even have the 'excuse' that they were protesting against 'genocide', starvation etc!

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:14

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:12

Oh how witty. Just like your eye roll emojis.

I have marked many a GCSE essay, amongst others. I'm just pointing out I'm reminded of those days.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:12

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:08

Straight out of a GCSE politics class.

Oh how witty. Just like your eye roll emojis.

Samiloff · 20/07/2025 11:10

smallglassbottle · 19/07/2025 22:52

I can't fathom how people protesting against a genocide are labelled as terrorists. As long as they're not being violent. Why are they suddenly terrorists? Can someone explain how it's come to this?

"People protesting against a genocide" are not labelled as terrorists. People "protesting" by breaking into MOD property and causing millions of £ of damage to the UK's defence capabilities are. (Causing deliberate damage on that scale is "being violent".)

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:10

I live in England. If we were at war tomorrow, I would want all my country's military aircraft, intact.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:09

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 10:57

They might need to take better care and they will have been hauled over the coals. However, that doesn't negate the utter stupidity to immobilise military aircraft. All these excuses for terrorists, come from the same people, who call Israel terrorists.

‘Utter stupidity’ to try and stop these planes from killing people?? Seriously. And yes, israel has committed many many acts of terror, which, thank God for the internet, the world is witnessing.

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:08

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:07

‘Utter stupidity to try and stop these planes from killing people’?? Seriously. And yes, israel has committed many many acts of terror, which, thank God for the internet, the world is witnessing.

🙄

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 11:08

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:02

@SharonEllisThe protests are currently about the genocide but also The Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) protests are also focused on supporting Palestinian human rights and ending the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories. They advocate for the rights of Palestinians to self-determination and return, and they oppose what they see as Israeli violations of international law and human rights.
What is wrong with that? The israeli occupation is illegal under international law. Fact. We have every right to self determination and return. And israel has been violating and ignoring international
law since its inception. Fact.

Straight out of a GCSE politics class.

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:07

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 10:57

They might need to take better care and they will have been hauled over the coals. However, that doesn't negate the utter stupidity to immobilise military aircraft. All these excuses for terrorists, come from the same people, who call Israel terrorists.

‘Utter stupidity to try and stop these planes from killing people’?? Seriously. And yes, israel has committed many many acts of terror, which, thank God for the internet, the world is witnessing.

SharonEllis · 20/07/2025 11:03

Cadenza12 · 20/07/2025 10:35

I think that it's very dangerous to attempt to curb free speech. These people are against genocide and should be able to voice their opinions. This is a very slippery slope.

Noone is stopping them voicing opinions. They are only stopped if they break the law

BibiSuzanne · 20/07/2025 11:02

@SharonEllisThe protests are currently about the genocide but also The Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) protests are also focused on supporting Palestinian human rights and ending the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories. They advocate for the rights of Palestinians to self-determination and return, and they oppose what they see as Israeli violations of international law and human rights.
What is wrong with that? The israeli occupation is illegal under international law. Fact. We have every right to self determination and return. And israel has been violating and ignoring international
law since its inception. Fact.

Dangermoo · 20/07/2025 10:57

smallglassbottle · 19/07/2025 23:06

Been googling. They were the ones who sprayed the planes at Brize Norton. They've now been lumped in with a Ukranian and Russian ethno nationalist murder groups apparently Confused

Perhaps Brize Norton need to take better care with their security arrangements.

They might need to take better care and they will have been hauled over the coals. However, that doesn't negate the utter stupidity to immobilise military aircraft. All these excuses for terrorists, come from the same people, who call Israel terrorists.

LipstickLessons · 20/07/2025 10:52

SharonEllis · 20/07/2025 10:31

The protests arent just about ethnic cleansing and starvation and that is not what the counterprotests are about. As you very well know.

Yet the biggest issue of the day for these people is 'it's not genocide', that's what brings them out onto the streers. That's what they get from watching children being killed collecting water, watching desperate people queuing up to be shot at and fed. Not even a 'it's not genocide but it's wrong', just protesting about a word as children starve. What heroes.

Cadenza12 · 20/07/2025 10:35

I think that it's very dangerous to attempt to curb free speech. These people are against genocide and should be able to voice their opinions. This is a very slippery slope.

SharonEllis · 20/07/2025 10:31

LipstickLessons · 20/07/2025 10:23

Course it's clown behaviour to head out to counter a protest against starvation and ethic cleansing. Arguing about semantics whilst people starve. Seeing emaciated children on the news, children being blown to pieces collecting water and their reaction to that is to hold a sign saying 'there is no genocide'? Like wtf, ah cool thats OK then, let's just ignore the starving children and the plans for camps like you do, its not genocide just attempted ethnic cleansing and forced starvation. These people are driven more to protest against a word than against forced mass displacement and starvation. Like I said clown behaviour.

The protests arent just about ethnic cleansing and starvation and that is not what the counterprotests are about. As you very well know.