Francesca Albanese

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”On 5 December, Amnesty International concluded after an investigation that “Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip”. A few days later, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR) stated that after research and analysis, it concluded that “there is a legally sound argument that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians in Gaza”.
A few days after that, Human Rights Watch (HRW) declared that “Israeli authorities are responsible for the crime against humanity of extermination and for acts of genocide”, and Médecins Sans Frontières reported that its medical “teams in the north of Gaza are seeing clear signs of ethnic cleansing”. Earlier in November, HRW also concluded that Israel’s actions in Gaza amounted to “war crimes” and “crimes against humanity”, and appeared to “also meet the definition of ethnic cleansing”.

I am not an expert but perhaps this man is

www.npr.org/2025/07/17/nx-s1-5468953/historian-omer-bartov-on-why-he-believes-israel-is-committing-genocide-in-gaza

so careful, how would you describe the ffigures included below ? The figures are from March before Israel started sniping people collecting aid: “
But a study in the Lancet estimates that Israeli troops killed more than 64,000 people in just the first nine months of their rampage, the time for which the study’s authors had data. In other words, the official count is probably dramatically understated.
Meanwhile, the UN reports that at least 14,500 children have been killed – also probably a dramatic undercount. The real mortality figure is probably unknowable, not least because so many families have been killed at once, leaving no one to account for some babies or toddlers ever having existed.
Beyond the mass death, international agencies suggest that at least 110,000 people in Gaza have been injured, including at least 25,000 children. And Unicef estimates that between 3,000 and 4,000 children in Gaza have had one or more limbs amputated. That small tract of earth is now home to more child amputees per inhabitant than anywhere else in the world.”

She is not an anti semite, justified criticism of Israel continually breaching international law does not equal anti semtism

Says someone who ‘greatly admires’ anti semite and terrorist supporter Albanese…………

As if the US is a neutral player!

The link I posted clearly sets out evidence of what I posted. You probably will dismiss Honest Reporting but they have just gathered it from elsewhere.

Is the US Secretary of State ‘slandering’ her too?

The United States has repeatedly condemned and objected to the biased and malicious activities of Albanese that have long made her unfit for service as a Special Rapporteur. Albanese has spewed unabashed antisemitism, expressed support for terrorism, and open contempt for the United States, Israel, and the West.

https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/07/sanctioning-lawfare-that-targets-u-s-and-israeli-persons

I don’t think the US took that action lightly and without evidence.

Good point, Would be good to see some sort of consequences for those who have been complicit if only to discourage similar in the future but hard to imagine now when Israel itself has been allowed to act with impunity,

There is a petition for her to be nominated for a Nobel peace prize, together with doctors within Gaza.

https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/stand_with_francesca_loc/

Yes, I also admire her greatly

No. She is an able defender of Palestinian human rights, and generally a very admirable person.

I have never heard her express support for Hamas. I would think the claim that she is a Hamas propagandist is slanderous in the extreme.
The actions of Hamas on October 7th were horrifying, the genocide prosecuted by Israel since is horrifying and of greater magnitude.
shouting that Albanese is a Hamas propagandist does not change the facts she reports, bombing civilians is a war crime, purposefully starving a population is a war crime, destroying civilian infrastructure is a war crime, cutting off water is a war crime, displacing a civilian population is a war crime.

She is a disgrace to her apparent role which to be an INDEPENDENT human rights expert, when she is clearly a Hamas propagandist.

She is only being discussed because of that.

She tried to make excuses for one of the world’s terrorists attacks involving babies, children and OAPs being slaughtered, and taken hostage then slaughtered, gang rape and dismemberment including decapitation, by saying those kind of barbaric atrocities need to be put in ‘context’ WHILE THE ATTACK WAS BEING CARRIED OUT! She also tried to deny that any rape took place and had NEVER called out Hamas, who orchestrated this war and are to blame for what has happened in Gaza and all the deaths of children and civilians, for any accountability to my knowledge. Has she?

https://x.com/HonestReporting/status/1943780977991401655

You admire her? Well I’m thankful I don’t live in your head.

The fact some are vociferously against her shows she is doing her job if highlighting the plight of Palestinians well.

The report by her referred to on this thread about corporate responsibility in enabling alleged genocide U.S. is interesting. Some corporations are bigger than some states, and it will be interesting to see if they too can be prosecuted for being complicit in alleged genocide- if this is what the international court finds. I wonder if this the purpose of the report?

Me too, shes inspirational.

So glad to see Francesca Albanese being discussed I think she is an absolutely incredible woman, brave and fearless in pinpointing with clarity how Israel is breaching international law. I admire her so much

I see only excuses to dismiss concerns I am afraid.
Its antisemitism
It’s political
It’s to appease their voter base

Countries like Germany, Sweden and Netherlands could have voted against the motion, but they didn’t - suggesting that there are legitimate concerns present?

The question as to whether resolutions/ sanctions against Israel help move towards a 2ss is a different question altogether.

We were taking about whether Albanese and UN had valid concerns. I was pointing out that the concerns are widely shared.

I agree with you that UN resolutions/ sanctions don’t necessarily help move things forward.

It will be interesting to see what influence Trump has. The EU had a report raising concerns about Israel’s actions and now we see that they have negotiated with Israel to increase aid going into Gaza.

I answered earlier:

"And the politicians do politics. Countries like Britain have to appease voter base and I'm guessing a fair whack of Starmers voters are firmly in one camp"

But they all gave official answers which were very telling. Germany, Sweden, and the Netherlands similarly abstained, citing concerns over one-sided wording. Ambassador Barbara Woodward said the vote “does not provide sufficient clarity to effectively advance our shared aim of a peace premised on a negotiated two‑state solution”, or in plain English that tge resolution didnt include realistic parameters and pathways toward negotiations.

Summarised, people know perfectly well condemning israel doesn't solve the problem. There's an occupation for a large number if reasons, and Israel has well founded security concerns. Peace isn't a one sided operation.

But fun to just have weekly resolutions so they can all condemn israel. Doesn't solve anything or accurately represent what's going on though.

Don’t you think it’s reasonable that Israel be held to higher standards than North Korea?

And Israel’s western allies not voting against the motion?

Israel has been the subject of more HRC condemnations, special sessions, and commissions of inquiry than any other country by a mile, including North Korea, Iran, Syria, and China .

The frequency and intensity of scrutiny far exceed the scale of Israel’s violations compared to those major dictatorships and that should be obvious to any honest person.

The UN Security council blocked action on grave crises like Syria, Myanmar, Yemen, and Ethiopia. Just a political representation of a very corrupt and pretty disgusting world.

The world is made up of just a group of countries though? I never suggested anyone was godly- but that concerns about the occupation are pervasive.

I have listed those who voted against the motion. 12 out of 181. They don’t include a significant number of Western allies.

It must make Israel feel isolated- that I can understand.

(Google will help identify countries for whom there are sanctions and those the focus of UN resolutions - including those you think have avoided scrutiny).

The UN is just a group of countries. Thats it. You think theyre all Godly or something?

The countries who voted for it just happen to include the worst countries in the world. Russia, currently waging an illegal war on Ukraine. China, who currently occupies Taiwan if you'd not noticed. Iran!! North bloody Korea!!!

plus all 57 Muslim-majority countries voted in favour of the resolution — except one (Albania, which abstained).

They vote against Israel for anything and everything.

They're all okay with the utter human rights horrors happenning in their own countries, including occupation!

Morocco has occupied about 70% of Western Sahara since 1976. Turkey is occupying Cyprus.

Nobody gives a shit because it's not Israel. And the politicians do politics. Countries like Britain have to appease voter base and I'm guessing a fair whack of Starmers voters are firmly in one camp.

The UN disproportionately targets Israel because its structure is deeply political, not moral. Resolutions are driven by voting blocs, especially the powerful Non-Aligned Movement and Organisation of Islamic Cooperation who reliably form majorities against Israel, regardless of context.

You could honestly have a vote tomorrow morning on whether israels flag was evil and they'd all agree it was.

Meanwhile, far worse abuses in countries like Syria, China, Iran, or Sudan often face minimal condemnation or are blocked from serious scrutiny altogether. This isn’t because those abuses are less severe—it’s because their perpetrators have allies on the Security Council or belong to voting blocs that shield them.

Israel, on the other hand, is isolated, lacks regional support and the result is a distorted picture where the only democracy in the Middle East is condemned more than serial human rights abusers who put little girls of 10 on fucking death row.

And structurally, the UN literally has its internal agency that manages this currently widely defunded for active complicity in the mass murder and kidnap of Israelis.

What a time to be alive

Do you know how many countries have agreed with UN concerns?

For example, on the vote that Israel stop occupation of Palestinian Territories, only 14 voted out of 181 countries against in September 2024.

Those who voted against and in support of Israel were:
Argentina
Czech Republic
Fiji
Hungary
Israel
Malawi
Micronesia
Nauru
Palau
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Tonga
Tuvalu
United States

There were 43 countries who abstained- which at best shows ambivalence to what Israel is doing with regard to the occupation. 124 voted for the motion that Israel stop it’s occupation.

I am not sure it’s only a few countries sharing some of Albanese’s concerns