Anti-semitism in the UK

The mental gymnastics it takes to look at the charred bodies of children and somehow pin their deaths on anyone but the government that dropped the bombs is staggering.

Awful, truly heartbreaking. They deserve to have a government who cares. That’s why Hamas needs to go and a more moderate government in power.
Maybe then our Jewish community can stop living in fear of death threats.

@Hearing I will go look for the source I watched. I agree it's not ok to say anything if there's no validity to that. I'll retract if there's nothing to suggest it's factual. It came from October 7 hostage testimonies. I'll find the source.

The Guardian article. That is horrible. I have no words to convey what I feel about kids blasted to pieces. I accept it's not right. I accept if that is no accident, if it's deliberate, it's a very uncomfortable reality.

I can accept lots of horrible things here.

I still feel the same about every single point I have.

I'm quite sure there will be enough evidence out there that will confirm the point regarding Hamas, the place they come from and their intent. Look at that girl bent in two on the back of a truck. Come on. This is no stretch for goodness sake.

I do hear you though. It's important to verify....

Unbelievable that we have posters referring to “40 beheaded babies” in order to mock the atrocities of October 7th
Shame on you

This is a nasty horrible comment - dismissing the suffering of Jewish people- on a thread that is about anti semitism in the UK.

Yeah having just looked everywhere online there is no evidence of what you just said re the cutting off breasts and the poles. That’s as credible as the 40 beheaded babies.

More children died just now in Gaza by Israel than all the children in October 7th and the child hostages.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/13/dozens-of-palestinians-killed-in-latest-israeli-attacks-near-food-aid-distribution-sites-medics-and-witnesses-say

...and still silence on these simple questions. Might the answers reveal too much about what's actually behind the original subject of this thread - that is, the safety of Jewish people in our own country - before it got diverted into finny-fannying around the intricacies of Middle Eastern politics?

Not true at all. You are peddling more inappropriate lines such as bigotry. I as a female have some very big problems with an ideology that seems to despise women.

Why did young beautiful ladies from Oct 7th have their breasts sliced off? Why metal poles found inside vaginas? You don't know me enough to know this is a very big trigger for me personally. Why these acts in particular and what does this tell us? Why were men found with metal poles inserted into their anus? Why that? What do you think? And this is all a reflection of that ideology.

I never before reflected on why Andrew Tate converted to Islam. Someone suggested why on a podcast i listened to. Can you imagine why someone like this would be drawn to that. Have a guess.

I absolutely will rip Judaism as an ideology a new arsehole if I happen to observe, receive messages consistently in my space about fundamentals that are anti to my values. If this then grows into a situation where people are being subjugated, threatened and ignored when they talk about it. Well yes you'll hear me on here talking very openly about that.

I am absolutely disgusted by the ideology of Catholicism in many ways. I would have to reflect on the holy books and if domination of others is a key message in them. Maybe it is. I am really horrified by history wherein this ideological bullshit was forced upon people who were ripped from homes and forced into boarding schools. If this was here in my face now, I would be talking loudly.

You don't like my honesty. I'm saying things people believe and it's unsettling.

There's not one thing bigoted about me. I know my values are pretty grounded. I'm simply not with the masses. I'm always happy to be re educated too and this is not the definition of the things I'm accused of being.

I'm sorry to derail.

Your response completely misrepresents what I’ve said. Criticising the policies of the Israeli government or opposing Zionism as a political ideology is not the same as blaming Jews. That’s a deliberate conflation, and it shuts down legitimate discussion. If someone criticised the Iranian regime, you wouldn’t accuse them of Islamophobia. So why pretend criticism of a state equals hatred of a people here?

What is dangerous is using bad-faith accusations of antisemitism to silence people speaking out against state violence.

Blaming “Islam as an ideology” is just recycled bigotry. You wouldn’t say “Judaism is the problem” and expect a pass. Singling out 1.9 billion people while claiming concern for girls or invoking the Holocaust isn’t deep, it’s absurd.

I am so sorry for your terrible experiences, OP.

Please know that my family and I stand with British Jews and will always fight antisemitism.

’Never again’.

@Voxon
Exactly my point but your way of putting it was better than mine.
It is double standards. I will wave my Israel flag with my Union flag and keep laughing at the vile comments I get from mainly Muslim men.

I can take the piss and be as derogatory as I like about a religion.
That’s what free speech means.
I can criticise any religion I choose to. I can poke fun at any god or prophet I choose to.
People do make sweeping comments about Jews, Christians etc. What we don’t do is threaten death on an individual because of a religious belief.
Jews: ‘tight’
JW: ‘tell everyone on FB to not answer the door and then discuss blood transfusions’
Christians: ‘bible bashers’ and ‘Praise Jebus’
I don’t hate anyone religious person and would not offer up death threats against them.

Herein lies just one of the examples of the double standard.

Zionism is both a political and religious ideology. As is Islam.

Both are therefore subject to the same rights for people to criticise as much as they wish, provided that the criticism isn't hateful.

Nobody thinks it's okay if our streets had mobs of people wanting to dismantle Islam. But they think it's perfectly acceptable to do that for Zionism.

Their argument is that Zionism is fundamentally discriminatory and causes suffering to people. I think you could make a similar argument for Islam.

The difference is, people inherently understand it's pretty gross...unless the targets are Jews. Then it's fine.

Please don't give me "but what about the children?" Because I could ask you "but what about the gays or the women or the tens of thousands of 10 year old sold in marriage?"

It's not a legitimate lime of criticism if you seek to demonise and destroy.

No way. I really do refute that claim.

It would not be treated or received the same way at all. Because of not being afforded the same protection, preference and metaphorical ramming into spaces where people not interested in it, have to eat it up. ( This does not impact me personally. I do believe the experience of others who do live this).

We also have the fear encapsulating and suppressing debate. We have no Christianphobia after all?

I would happily debate regarding my problems with all religions. I have issues with elements within every single religion. I don't like or agree with aspects of the fundamentals of Judaism. Will I get a Fatwa on my ass for saying so? No. Arrested? No. My life at risk even? No. A high five? Well actually, yes maybe. From a fair amount I would actually suggest.

And this is a huge problem. Because it will breed the risk posed and vulnerability of this group. And I'm going to say Holocaust again.

I am continually, without moving, referring to the ideology of Islam. This is my language consistently. You are trying to adapt the language. I don't ever talk about ' them Muslims'. I don't do it. I wonder how awful it must be for many living in that system to be quite honest with you. The girls especially.

Which brings us back to the topic of the thread

Let’s be real - if someone said the same kind of sweeping things about Jews or Christians, we’d all immediately recognise it as prejudice. So why is it acceptable (to you) when it’s about Muslims? Criticising Hamas or political violence is one thing. But painting an entire religion as the root of the problem crosses a line. It’s not brave or honest, it’s just lazy and dangerous. People aren’t being “silenced” for asking hard questions, they’re being called out for blaming whole communities based on fear and bias.

Indeed, not all white people are privileged.