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Bob Geldof announced Gaza Aid 2025

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mids2019 · 13/07/2025 05:26

Wait no......Bob is simply reminiscing about Band Aid 40 years ago. Has Bob given up his passionate zeal or as is more highly likely like most high profile musicians decided the Gaza conflict is one to stay well away from and they don't want to be seen the dupes of Hamas propaganda.

Not many big names on TV and the stage are wading into this for good reason and those that do are certainly the naive lovely types.

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Hodgemollar · 13/07/2025 09:45

This poster regularly comments like a ‘political’ 14 year old on Reddit.

Incoherent ramblings that are largely nonsensical drawing really random conclusions.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:44

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:40

Asking “Who are they?” suggests you doubt they exist.

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No it doesn't. If I say who are you? am I denying your existence?

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:43

Buffypaws · 13/07/2025 09:36

If the pro Israel lobby is so powerful why can’t I move in this country without running into dickheads in keffiyehs screaming about Palestine

Do you think “wearing a keffiyeh and screaming about Palestine” demonstrates power?

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:40

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:35

How was my post vague?? It was a very clear set of questions.

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Asking “Who are they?” suggests you doubt they exist.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 13/07/2025 09:39

HipHipWhoRay · 13/07/2025 08:29

Bob Geldof is a 73 yr old bloke. Because he organised something so epic 40 years ago, am not sure why you think he should be doing this now?

Quite. Over to Gen Z "stars" to pull their finger out over something they obviously feel so passionate about.

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:38

Buffypaws · 13/07/2025 09:36

If the pro Israel lobby is so powerful why can’t I move in this country without running into dickheads in keffiyehs screaming about Palestine

😆 🤣 so true!

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:38

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:31

There’s a lot of pretending to misunderstand to make a point going on on this thread.

I was replying to @SharonEllis post suggesting there is no such thing as the pro Israel lobby.

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I don't understand why pro Israel, anti Hamas rhetoric was used in the same sentence by a pp. Then again, I think I do. Pro Israel lobbies are concerned with shaping the future of Israel. There are hundreds of thousands of pro Palestine groups doing the same for Gaza. What's the difference, apart from Palestine Action Group now presenting as terrorists?

Buffypaws · 13/07/2025 09:36

If the pro Israel lobby is so powerful why can’t I move in this country without running into dickheads in keffiyehs screaming about Palestine

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:35

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:34

I misunderstood you in that case (perhaps you were deliberately vague/unclear). I thought you were suggesting that claiming there is a pro Israel lobby is antisemtic.

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How was my post vague?? It was a very clear set of questions.

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:34

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:31

Yes, it is obvious, who said there wasn't? There is a 'lobby' on behalf of most countries and numerous causes. The poster was saying that the Israel Lobby had the power to 'terrify' though. Do we hear that about say, the French lobby? Or the Saudi Lobby? Saudi Arabia is a nation with far far worse human rights record than Israel and we sell them far far more arms, for example.

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I misunderstood you in that case (perhaps you were deliberately vague/unclear). I thought you were suggesting that claiming there is a pro Israel lobby is antisemtic.

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SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:33

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:31

There’s a lot of pretending to misunderstand to make a point going on on this thread.

I was replying to @SharonEllis post suggesting there is no such thing as the pro Israel lobby.

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You misunderstood me. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't pretending.

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:31

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:26

Is there anything wrong with self preservation? Ah, of course there is, when it comes to Israel and her people.

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There’s a lot of pretending to misunderstand to make a point going on on this thread.

I was replying to @SharonEllis post suggesting there is no such thing as the pro Israel lobby.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:31

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:22

No, but it shows that there is clearly a pro Israel lobby in the UK and US. I would have thought that was obvious.

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Yes, it is obvious, who said there wasn't? There is a 'lobby' on behalf of most countries and numerous causes. The poster was saying that the Israel Lobby had the power to 'terrify' though. Do we hear that about say, the French lobby? Or the Saudi Lobby? Saudi Arabia is a nation with far far worse human rights record than Israel and we sell them far far more arms, for example.

dairydebris · 13/07/2025 09:30

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:22

No, but it shows that there is clearly a pro Israel lobby in the UK and US. I would have thought that was obvious.

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Yes.

Theres also a pro Farmers lobby, pro Christian lobby, many pro business / finance lobby groups etc.

I expect Sharon and I are wondering exactly what is so powerful and terrifying about the pro Israel lobby in particular?

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:29

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:16

How is this relevant to this thread or the pp's or my post?

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See my post above

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:26

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:22

No, but it shows that there is clearly a pro Israel lobby in the UK and US. I would have thought that was obvious.

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Is there anything wrong with self preservation? Ah, of course there is, when it comes to Israel and her people.

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:22

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:15

Wiki as a source of authority? @speakthetruthnow

No, but it shows that there is clearly a pro Israel lobby in the UK and US. I would have thought that was obvious.

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:16

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:11

US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States

How is this relevant to this thread or the pp's or my post?

Dangermoo · 13/07/2025 09:15

Wiki as a source of authority? @speakthetruthnow

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 09:15

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:08

Please tell us how powerful the pro-Israel lobby is. Who are they? How do they exercise that power?

You’re surely not trying to suggest the existence of a pro-Israel lobby is an antisemitic conspiracy theory are you @SharonEllis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IsraellobbyintheUnitedKingdom

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Your own link suggests that lobbying on behalf of Israel in the UK is not particularly large scale yet the pp thinks their 'power' has the capacity to 'terrify' the most powrerful person in this country. I'm i terested in how that works.

SpeakTheTruthNow · 13/07/2025 09:08

Please tell us how powerful the pro-Israel lobby is. Who are they? How do they exercise that power?

You’re surely not trying to suggest the existence of a pro-Israel lobby is an antisemitic conspiracy theory are you @SharonEllis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IsraellobbyintheUnitedKingdom

Israel lobby in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_Kingdom

MissyB1 · 13/07/2025 08:48

What are you wittering on about OP? Could you clarify?

SharonEllis · 13/07/2025 08:48

zzplea · 13/07/2025 08:47

How would any aid get into Gaza, since Israel controls the borders?

Fundraising for a famine is not the same as fundraising for a war zone under seige.

Aid is getting in.

zzplea · 13/07/2025 08:47

How would any aid get into Gaza, since Israel controls the borders?

Fundraising for a famine is not the same as fundraising for a war zone under seige.

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